DUST Search - CCP: HMG improvement for 1.8

Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

surely you jest?

if you can aim, then the HMG tears anything up in front of it. I played an ambush yesterday in my Templar sentinel and went 35/1 with a STD HMG while everyone else on BOTH teams didn't get above 10 kills, AND I RARELY EVER PLAY HEAVY. at one point, I flanked the team, and mowed down all 10 people shooting at me by strafing in and out of cover. after that match, all I could say was...

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

I wish my shotgun could do that...

that's why I have almost no respect for heavies, especially heavies with light weapons. I'm not even skilled into heavies, and I have HMG operation to 1, yet I can destroy everything just as well as I can with my proto scout. not intentionally disrespecting anyone, but I just don't see how being a heavy even remotely requires skill.

TL;DR

the HMG doesn't need a buff.

"oh i used my heavy suit and did good, lol you heavies have no skill!"

it's idiots like this that was the cause of the HMG nerf to begin with. Back in Chromosome the tears were great, from people crying for nerfs because "heavies have no skill". Big whoop you went up against a bunch of noobs and had a good game.

Try going against people that shoot back, and against some real "no skilled" heavies.

In my days I killed so many wannabe heavies like you. Who skill into it thinking it's easy and no skill required. I agree the HMG sounds like it doesn't need a buff, but GTFO with your "heavies have no skill" stupidity.

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Incin3rate New Age Empire. 18	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:29:00 - [1] - Quote After suffering through the terrible imbalance of Rail rifles and Combat rifles, I propose the the HMG should shot out Rifters for at least one patch length of time. Thank you.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 114	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:34:00 - [2] - Quote And while we're at it, I want my scout to sprint at 50mps. Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1728	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:35:00 - [3] - Quote and, well, why not buffing heavies HP by another 50%? >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
Incin3rate New Age Empire. 18	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:36:00 - [4] - Quote 50mps, say hello to walls.
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 509	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:36:00 - [5] - Quote Are you insane? The HMG is perfect for its purpose. Theres no scarier thing than a HMG defending a point. Tech Guard Recruiting Spot
Incin3rate New Age Empire. 18	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:37:00 - [6] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: and, well, why not buffing heavies HP by another 50%? So just go gal logi with boundless CR easy button.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1728	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:39:00 - [7] - Quote Incin3rate wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: and, well, why not buffing heavies HP by another 50%? So just go gal logi with boundless CR easy button. same, yeah. Totally agreed. >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 126	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:40:00 - [8] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: Are you insane? The HMG is perfect for its purpose. Theres no scarier thing than a HMG defending a point. Except an Amarr assualt and a scrambler
Incin3rate New Age Empire. 18	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:40:00 - [9] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: Are you insane? The HMG is perfect for its purpose. Theres no scarier thing than a HMG defending a point. Big outdoor maps require Rifters!
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 240	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:45:00 - [10] - Quote First of all rifles are fine, HMG is denial weapon and that role is succesfully done now aswell. If you want to atack, take comrade triangle unit with you or swap MG with Rifle (what is overall better for charge and faster regrouping squads). BTW infantryman with rifle is rifleman not a rifter. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6774	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:45:00 - [11] - Quote My assault rifle is crying in the corner about all this power creep. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 115	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:46:00 - [12] - Quote Not walls! My one weakness! ... Casually stops sprinting, walks around them, continues sprinting again 4G's, baby! Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1743	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:47:00 - [13] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: Except an Amarr assualt and a scrambler They're as squishy as anything else up close. One burst from the MLR-A usually does the trick. HMG does not need a buff. Especially with the upcoming Sentinel changes. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Incin3rate New Age Empire. 18	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:49:00 - [14] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: First of all rifles are fine, HMG is denial weapon and that role is succesfully done now aswell. If you want to atack, take comrade triangle unit with you or swap MG with Rifle (what is overall better for charge and faster regrouping squads). BTW infantryman with rifle is rifleman not a rifter. No and its obvious you know not EVE.
Incin3rate New Age Empire. 18	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:52:00 - [15] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: xSir Campsalotx wrote: Except an Amarr assualt and a scrambler They're as squishy as anything else up close. One burst from the MLR-A usually does the trick. HMG does not need a buff. Especially with the upcoming Sentinel changes. We need a long range weapon vs infantry. It was sarcasm not a buff request. But CR up close with strafing is a joke.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1744	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:06:00 - [16] - Quote Incin3rate wrote: We need a long range weapon vs infantry. It was sarcasm not a buff request. But CR up close with strafing is a joke. Fair enough. I agree, I'd really like to see a new Heavy Weapon some time before hell freezes overGÇª As far as rifles VS HMG, they're all the same. AR, RR, CR, ScR makes no difference. Inside 30m they're dead, outside of it you're dead. They only win when you're already weakened from a previous fight, or the player using it is simply better than you. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9566	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:19:00 - [17] - Quote I want holy seals restricting the full power of my scrambler rifle to be broken to release its maximum power. All 7 seals broken = no overheat. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2850	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:23:00 - [18] - Quote WARNING: FACT OF THE DAY INBOUND You CAN strafe in a Heavy Dropsuit. (*Fact of the Day-¬ is used under presumed consent from DeadlyAztec11, and may not reflect the views and opinions of DeadlyAztec11.) I GÖú Kittens.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 688	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:24:00 - [19] - Quote They can improve HMG for everybody by prevent heavies hopping in and out of LAVs on the fly. Most scrubby bullshit ever Nemo me impune lacessit
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1512	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:36:00 - [20] - Quote surely you jest? if you can aim, then the HMG tears anything up in front of it. I played an ambush yesterday in my Templar sentinel and went 35/1 with a STD HMG while everyone else on BOTH teams didn't get above 10 kills, AND I RARELY EVER PLAY HEAVY. at one point, I flanked the team, and mowed down all 10 people shooting at me by strafing in and out of cover. after that match, all I could say was... TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: I wish my shotgun could do that... that's why I have almost no respect for heavies, especially heavies with light weapons. I'm not even skilled into heavies, and I have HMG operation to 1, yet I can destroy everything just as well as I can with my proto scout. not intentionally disrespecting anyone, but I just don't see how being a heavy even remotely requires skill. TL;DR the HMG doesn't need a buff. Anime > EVERYTHING

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 511	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:42:00 - [21] - Quote After using HMGs for the first time this week, and seeing how quickly people melt in front of them, I'm amazed I have killed as many fatties as I have in CQC with my AR and RR. HMGs are just fine.
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 127	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:47:00 - [22] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: surely you jest? if you can aim, then the HMG tears anything up in front of it. I played an ambush yesterday in my Templar sentinel and went 35/1 with a STD HMG while everyone else on BOTH teams didn't get above 10 kills, AND I RARELY EVER PLAY HEAVY. at one point, I flanked the team, and mowed down all 10 people shooting at me by strafing in and out of cover. after that match, all I could say was... TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: I wish my shotgun could do that... that's why I have almost no respect for heavies, especially heavies with light weapons. I'm not even skilled into heavies, and I have HMG operation to 1, yet I can destroy everything just as well as I can with my proto scout. not intentionally disrespecting anyone, but I just don't see how being a heavy even remotely requires skill. TL;DR the HMG doesn't need a buff. Do it in a PC battle, just try to go positive. You were probably facing mlt suits.
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Red Whines 472	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:49:00 - [23] - Quote Incin3rate wrote: After suffering through the terrible imbalance of Rail rifles and Combat rifles, I propose the the HMG should shot out Rifters for at least one patch length of time. Thank you. Amarr are supposed to be the biggest Armor tank and they jsut gave us 25 more base hp..... For one patch we want 8000000000 armor ehp then.
Incin3rate New Age Empire. 19	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:49:00 - [24] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: WARNING: FACT OF THE DAY INBOUND You CAN strafe in a Heavy Dropsuit. (*Fact of the Day-¬ is used under presumed consent from DeadlyAztec11, and may not reflect the views and opinions of DeadlyAztec11.) You are funny.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 131	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:52:00 - [25] - Quote HMG is fine hey CCP give the heavy back its old turning speed Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Incin3rate New Age Empire. 19	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:53:00 - [26] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: surely you jest? if you can aim, then the HMG tears anything up in front of it. I played an ambush yesterday in my Templar sentinel and went 35/1 with a STD HMG while everyone else on BOTH teams didn't get above 10 kills, AND I RARELY EVER PLAY HEAVY. at one point, I flanked the team, and mowed down all 10 people shooting at me by strafing in and out of cover. after that match, all I could say was... TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: I wish my shotgun could do that... that's why I have almost no respect for heavies, especially heavies with light weapons. I'm not even skilled into heavies, and I have HMG operation to 1, yet I can destroy everything just as well as I can with my proto scout. not intentionally disrespecting anyone, but I just don't see how being a heavy even remotely requires skill. TL;DR the HMG doesn't need a buff. Still not looking for buff, just something to have a chance in the open. A and I am an old scrub who cannot aim with my thumb's. Also I can't get good.
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 209	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:45:00 - [27] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: They can improve HMG for everybody by prevent heavies hopping in and out of LAVs on the fly. Most scrubby bullshit ever Would it be better if they used tanks?
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4748	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:53:00 - [28] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: surely you jest? if you can aim, then the HMG tears anything up in front of it. I played an ambush yesterday in my Templar sentinel and went 35/1 with a STD HMG while everyone else on BOTH teams didn't get above 10 kills, AND I RARELY EVER PLAY HEAVY. at one point, I flanked the team, and mowed down all 10 people shooting at me by strafing in and out of cover. after that match, all I could say was... TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: I wish my shotgun could do that... that's why I have almost no respect for heavies, especially heavies with light weapons. I'm not even skilled into heavies, and I have HMG operation to 1, yet I can destroy everything just as well as I can with my proto scout. not intentionally disrespecting anyone, but I just don't see how being a heavy even remotely requires skill. TL;DR the HMG doesn't need a buff. "oh i used my heavy suit and did good, lol you heavies have no skill!" it's idiots like this that was the cause of the HMG nerf to begin with. Back in Chromosome the tears were great, from people crying for nerfs because "heavies have no skill". Big whoop you went up against a bunch of noobs and had a good game. Try going against people that shoot back, and against some real "no skilled" heavies. In my days I killed so many wannabe heavies like you. Who skill into it thinking it's easy and no skill required. I agree the HMG sounds like it doesn't need a buff, but GTFO with your "heavies have no skill" stupidity. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 520	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:09:00 - [29] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: surely you jest? if you can aim, then the HMG tears anything up in front of it. I played an ambush yesterday in my Templar sentinel and went 35/1 with a STD HMG while everyone else on BOTH teams didn't get above 10 kills, AND I RARELY EVER PLAY HEAVY. at one point, I flanked the team, and mowed down all 10 people shooting at me by strafing in and out of cover. after that match, all I could say was... TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: I wish my shotgun could do that... that's why I have almost no respect for heavies, especially heavies with light weapons. I'm not even skilled into heavies, and I have HMG operation to 1, yet I can destroy everything just as well as I can with my proto scout. not intentionally disrespecting anyone, but I just don't see how being a heavy even remotely requires skill. TL;DR the HMG doesn't need a buff. "oh i used my heavy suit and did good, lol you heavies have no skill!" it's idiots like this that was the cause of the HMG nerf to begin with. Back in Chromosome the tears were great, from people crying for nerfs because "heavies have no skill". Big whoop you went up against a bunch of noobs and had a good game. Try going against people that shoot back, and against some real "no skilled" heavies. In my days I killed so many wannabe heavies like you. Who skill into it thinking it's easy and no skill required. I agree the HMG sounds like it doesn't need a buff, but GTFO with your "heavies have no skill" stupidity. +1 for truth.
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1517	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:56:00 - [30] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: surely you jest? if you can aim, then the HMG tears anything up in front of it. I played an ambush yesterday in my Templar sentinel and went 35/1 with a STD HMG while everyone else on BOTH teams didn't get above 10 kills, AND I RARELY EVER PLAY HEAVY. at one point, I flanked the team, and mowed down all 10 people shooting at me by strafing in and out of cover. after that match, all I could say was... TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: I wish my shotgun could do that... that's why I have almost no respect for heavies, especially heavies with light weapons. I'm not even skilled into heavies, and I have HMG operation to 1, yet I can destroy everything just as well as I can with my proto scout. not intentionally disrespecting anyone, but I just don't see how being a heavy even remotely requires skill. TL;DR the HMG doesn't need a buff. "oh i used my heavy suit and did good, lol you heavies have no skill!" it's idiots like this that was the cause of the HMG nerf to begin with. Back in Chromosome the tears were great, from people crying for nerfs because "heavies have no skill". Big whoop you went up against a bunch of noobs and had a good game. Try going against people that shoot back, and against some real "no skilled" heavies. In my days I killed so many wannabe heavies like you. Who skill into it thinking it's easy and no skill required. I agree the HMG sounds like it doesn't need a buff, but GTFO with your "heavies have no skill" stupidity. sigh...people like you... first, i was one of the people who asked for the HMG to be buffed when it was crap, AND I'M A SCOUT. so don't tell me i'm the cause of it getting nerfed. secondly, i was facing AT LEAST 6 other protos on the enemy team. i don't why you think that just because i did really well means i was fighting starter fits. i'm hardly a wannabe heavy. i actually HATE playing as a heavy, but i'm only doing it for the event so i can get my shotgun to proficiency 5. i stand by what i say. i've seen VERY FEW heavies that have any skill whatsoever, and the only reason they even kill anything is because they have more ehp and a bigger gun. also, drop the attitude, because quite frankly, i don't give a damn whether you agree with me or not. i've seen a lot of "heavies" like you. anytime someone says anything against heavies, you act like you're the only one who has the right to say anything about heavies. **** off, because whether you like it or not, nobody cares what you have to say when you start insulting the other person. Anime > EVERYTHING



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