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Bojo The Mighty
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Posted - 2014.02.24 22:31:00 -
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You're assuming that the Amarr Scout is a light frame....
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:08:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:You're assuming that the Amarr Scout is a light frame.... I... don't get it.
It's a scout with 10 less armor than most medium frames start with
Scouts have 2 strengths: Sensors and Speed.
The Gallente scout will be Sensory strong and Regenerative strong (fastest self repping abilities)
The Caldari scout will be Sensory strong and shield regenerative strong (2 second shield delay!)
The Minmatar is like bat out of hell speed: hacking and sprint
But the Amarr? Stamina Regen abilities and tanking?
See the Amarr Scout does not fit contextually with the others, in fact since beta we were debating on how an Amarr scout would even work. But you see I understand now.
Imagine you have a squad of medium frames with Cloaks and and really strong endurance qualities....that's a squad of Amarr Scouts. No one is going to be able to play them like speed freak scouts, so you have to play it like undetectable medium frames, considering you have 230 HP naturally and 287.5 with max armor and shield skills.
The Amarr scout is practically the stealthiest medium frame you can have, and with the best scan stats too. You'd use the Amarr scout for the same reason you'd use the Amarr medium frame, HP for the long haul + Stamina to match.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:50:00 -
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Floyd20 Azizora wrote:
interesting way of looking at amarr scout. i would say the gallente will have more hp, because of the fact it can get away with less damps. combined with more speed, the amarr scout's big advantage is more time in sprint. why not use a minmatar medium?
My view of the Amarr scout practically relies on the cloak, seeing as how scout bonuses apply to them.
I wouldn't use a Minmatar Assault because:
Major Profile Gap
No Cloak Bonus
Other than that the Amarr scout is just a wimpy medium frame with good endurance.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:37:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:
That's a cool way of looking at the Amarr scout, but it seems to me that it can still be easily beaten on EHP by the Gal Scout due to the fact that the Amarr scout will need a repper, while the Gal scout can get by on the built-in one. A built in advanced repper versus half of a basic plate in base EHP seems like an obvious armor tanking advantage for the Gal scout. The Gal scout can further surpass the Amarr in EHP if the Amarr wants to be dampened or improve its scan range. The Amarr scout still seems blatantly underpowered.
But see what you're trying to accomplish is the same fit but across two different suits. Of course if you have the same exact fit among two different suits the suit with the innate armor reps is going to win, no matter what fit.
You gotta build the Amarr Scout differently, you gotta build it up with plates and a cloak, be the invisible wall. The Gallente Scout (like all gallente) are designed around Armor Rep tanking. I will, in 1.8, stack two reps to most of my fits with the innate 3 hp/s. Why? Because my g.K0 with 4 complex repair modules is my favorite.
If you prioritize the ability to recoup HP then the Amarr scout is not for you. If you want the strength of an elephant in the size of an Ant go Amarr scout.
If I was to use an Amarr scout, I would (must) fit a cloak, stack 3 plates and a green bottle. I would cloak, move into position, uncloak and gain the surprise abilities of a scout in the HP of medium frame. If you want stealth and high HP you'd go Amarr.
If there's a repair tool in squad why bother with a repair module. Amarr fight with force not lengthy engagements, why do you think their weapons all have high DPS?
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