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D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:55:00 -
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Hi All,
Just wondering how many remotes you all use on your jihad jeeps
I have 18, 24 if I use 2 suits.
5 boundless 5 republic boundless 4 F49's 4 Republic F49's
18
3 Std 3 republic Std
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
347
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:58:00 -
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I use standard and advanced, so 6. It usually does the job so long as they don't have stacked hardeners.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
1079
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:07:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:I use standard and advanced, so 6. It usually does the job so long as they don't have stacked hardeners. I reseve the 3rd slot for BPO uplinks so that I can choose my own sheltered spot to deploy. Same here, can't really say anyone thus far has survived a proper 6 RE hit. |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2038
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:07:00 -
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6, unless it double hardened, then as many as I can fit.
Combat Engineer in training.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1815
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:30:00 -
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I would like to see if triple hardeners would allow me to survive all that.
Forge on for great justice!
Defend the meek! Destroy the weak!
Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
1947
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:32:00 -
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ever since I had a tank survive 10 boundless RE's i now using 14-18 |
Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
188
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:36:00 -
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D34NOS MAZDA wrote:Hi All,
Just wondering how many remotes you all use on your jihad jeeps
I have 18, 24 if I use 2 suits.
5 boundless 5 republic boundless 4 F49's 4 Republic F49's
18
3 Std 3 republic Std
24 and this here is the very reason tankers are against the JLAVs I don't mind if you got RE's on the tank but when you can exploit and spam it like that makes it unbalanced no tank could survive that and for that very reason you shouldn't be allowed to do that or least not put that many on it.
you complain tanks are op yet your JLAV is even more OP and it's free if there isn't a more unbalanced tactic in this game than I don't what is. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1077
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:42:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:D34NOS MAZDA wrote:Hi All,
Just wondering how many remotes you all use on your jihad jeeps
I have 18, 24 if I use 2 suits.
5 boundless 5 republic boundless 4 F49's 4 Republic F49's
18
3 Std 3 republic Std
24 and this here is the very reason tankers are against the JLAVs I don't mind if you got RE's on the tank but when you can exploit and spam it like that makes it unbalanced no tank could survive that and for that very reason you shouldn't be allowed to do that or least not put that many on it. you complain tanks are op yet your JLAV is even more OP and it's free if there isn't a more unbalanced tactic in this game than I don't what is.
This post is such hypocritical bullshit. Of course "tankers" are against anything that is a hard counter to their OP metal crutches. Jihad LAV"s are probably the only rock to your scissor right now, but god forbid anything like that is in the game. As an infantry player, there are many many ways I can be countered.. what a ******* failpost this is.
LAV"s are not free.. unless you bought a BPO or merc pack. Remotes aren't free either. The suit needed to carry that many equipment slots, at the very least they are using a BPO logistics suit, also not free.
The current state of Militia Tank spam and the imbalance it causes, specifically in ambush matches, is probably the most ridiculous bullshit I've seen since playing this game (including TAC AR's, Flaylock, Fused Core Locus spam, district locking, etc)
But please, continue to tell us how awful it is to lose a tank every now and again to someone willing to suicide themselves and their LAV just to take you off the field for a minute. |
Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
1788
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:44:00 -
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The other day I saw a guy loading an LAV with everything, even a pangolin... I threw 3 remotes on there for him also.... I got the kill on the tank....trololol
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
188
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:47:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Tailss Prower wrote:D34NOS MAZDA wrote:Hi All,
Just wondering how many remotes you all use on your jihad jeeps
I have 18, 24 if I use 2 suits.
5 boundless 5 republic boundless 4 F49's 4 Republic F49's
18
3 Std 3 republic Std
24 and this here is the very reason tankers are against the JLAVs I don't mind if you got RE's on the tank but when you can exploit and spam it like that makes it unbalanced no tank could survive that and for that very reason you shouldn't be allowed to do that or least not put that many on it. you complain tanks are op yet your JLAV is even more OP and it's free if there isn't a more unbalanced tactic in this game than I don't what is. This post is such hypocritical bullshit. Of course "tankers" are against anything that is a hard counter to their OP metal crutches. Jihad LAV"s are probably the only rock to your scissor right now, but god forbid anything like that is in the game. As an infantry player, there are many many ways I can be countered.. what a ******* failpost this is. LAV"s are not free.. unless you bought a BPO or merc pack. Remotes aren't free either. The current state of Militia Tank spam and the imbalance it causes, specifically in ambush matches, is probably the most ridiculous bullshit I've seen since playing this game (including TAC AR's, Flaylock, Fused Core Locus spam, district locking, etc) But please, continue to tell us how awful it is to lose a tank every now and again to someone willing to suicide themselves and their LAV just to take you off the field for a minute. right lose around 25-30k isk with almost 100% chance to kill a 500k tank yeah cause that seems so logical I don't care about the mlt tanks the fact is it can 1 shot almost all tanks CCP already said they gonna fix the mlt spam anyway so why not deal with the easy 100% kill chance that barely costs anything and when I said free I mean it's bascily free because you can put your RE's on a LAV with almost nothing on it and change to a free suit and basicly lose almost nothing
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1077
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:50:00 -
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Yet another fail post.
Jihad LAV"s can also be one shotted if they have that many remotes strapped to the front. Literally one shot from your blaster, rail, **** even a bullet will detonate the RE's and bye bye Jihad LAV.
CCP have stated they are "fixing" RE's, they are not supposed to stick to vehicles. Yeah, there you go OP tanker FOTM crybaby... another counter to your metal crutch that is being "fixed".
"almost basically free"? that doesn't make sense, either its free or its not.
Why don't you just not post on the forum for the rest of today, time out for you. |
Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
188
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:53:00 -
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Oh and tanks are only hard to counter because of the people exploiting the hardners and most don't even do that most stack dmg mods and if you can't kill a sica thats packed with dmg mods a armor plate with a armor hardner then you really shouldn't play anyway the fact that you guys don't use your heads and some actual tactics is the very reaosn you can't counter the tanks I've seen plenty mow right through mlt tanks with AV hell even some mowed through mine which by no means is weak.
it's amazing how they have no trouble and you do |
Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
1788
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:54:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:[quote=Tailss Prower][quote=D34NOS MAZDA]Hi All,
-snip-
right lose around 25-30k isk with almost 100% chance to kill a 500k tank yeah cause that seems so logical I don't care about the mlt tanks the fact is it can 1 shot almost all tanks CCP already said they gonna fix the mlt spam anyway so why not deal with the easy 100% kill chance that barely costs anything and when I said free I mean it's bascily free because you can put your RE's on a LAV with almost nothing on it and change to a free suit and basicly lose almost nothing
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA, no such thing as almost 100%, thats just a dumb dumb statement. PAY ATTENTION. 1.7 tankers(for the most) have no idea aabout keeping a tank alive, they rely on the little modules and zero effort from themselves.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
621
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:57:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I would like to see if triple hardeners would allow me to survive all that.
It would be an 87.41% reduction for Gunnlogis. 2,650 Shields becomes 21,048 EHP so it would be close. |
Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
310
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:58:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Tailss Prower wrote:D34NOS MAZDA wrote:Hi All,
Just wondering how many remotes you all use on your jihad jeeps
I have 18, 24 if I use 2 suits.
5 boundless 5 republic boundless 4 F49's 4 Republic F49's
18
3 Std 3 republic Std
24 and this here is the very reason tankers are against the JLAVs I don't mind if you got RE's on the tank but when you can exploit and spam it like that makes it unbalanced no tank could survive that and for that very reason you shouldn't be allowed to do that or least not put that many on it. you complain tanks are op yet your JLAV is even more OP and it's free if there isn't a more unbalanced tactic in this game than I don't what is. This post is such hypocritical bullshit. Of course "tankers" are against anything that is a hard counter to their OP metal crutches. Jihad LAV"s are probably the only rock to your scissor right now, but god forbid anything like that is in the game. As an infantry player, there are many many ways I can be countered.. what a ******* failpost this is. LAV"s are not free.. unless you bought a BPO or merc pack. Remotes aren't free either. The current state of Militia Tank spam and the imbalance it causes, specifically in ambush matches, is probably the most ridiculous bullshit I've seen since playing this game (including TAC AR's, Flaylock, Fused Core Locus spam, district locking, etc) But please, continue to tell us how awful it is to lose a tank every now and again to someone willing to suicide themselves and their LAV just to take you off the field for a minute. right lose around 25-30k isk with almost 100% chance to kill a 500k tank yeah cause that seems so logical I don't care about the mlt tanks the fact is it can 1 shot almost all tanks CCP already said they gonna fix the mlt spam anyway so why not deal with the easy 100% kill chance that barely costs anything and when I said free I mean it's bascily free because you can put your RE's on a LAV with almost nothing on it and change to a free suit and basicly lose almost nothing
LOL. It's more like 33% if you are a good driver and the tank has no infantry support (some tankers are better drivers than others). I usually go with 7REs - STD & ADV + k2 nanohives so I can make another if my LAV is stolen before I can finish it (this happens about 50% of the time).
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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ALT2 acc
The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V.
102
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:59:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I would like to see if triple hardeners would allow me to survive all that. It would be an 87.41% reduction for Gunnlogis. 2,650 Shields becomes 21,048 EHP so it would be close. 2 hards and an extender...
Banned until the 10th
Reason: I said "feg"
I lol'd so8 dammed hars, it's not even funny, oh wait, yes it is.
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
189
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:59:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Yet another fail post.
Jihad LAV"s can also be one shotted if they have that many remotes strapped to the front. Literally one shot from your blaster, rail, **** even a bullet will detonate the RE's and bye bye Jihad LAV.
CCP have stated they are "fixing" RE's, they are not supposed to stick to vehicles. Yeah, there you go OP tanker FOTM crybaby... another counter to your metal crutch that is being "fixed".
"almost basically free"? that doesn't make sense, either its free or its not.
Why don't you just not post on the forum for the rest of today, time out for you. I hate to break it to you dumbass but I've been in a tank since the closed beta so your little FOTM comment is wasted on me
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
189
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Posted - 2014.02.24 15:00:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:Tailss Prower wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Tailss Prower wrote:D34NOS MAZDA wrote:Hi All,
Just wondering how many remotes you all use on your jihad jeeps
I have 18, 24 if I use 2 suits.
5 boundless 5 republic boundless 4 F49's 4 Republic F49's
18
3 Std 3 republic Std
24 and this here is the very reason tankers are against the JLAVs I don't mind if you got RE's on the tank but when you can exploit and spam it like that makes it unbalanced no tank could survive that and for that very reason you shouldn't be allowed to do that or least not put that many on it. you complain tanks are op yet your JLAV is even more OP and it's free if there isn't a more unbalanced tactic in this game than I don't what is. This post is such hypocritical bullshit. Of course "tankers" are against anything that is a hard counter to their OP metal crutches. Jihad LAV"s are probably the only rock to your scissor right now, but god forbid anything like that is in the game. As an infantry player, there are many many ways I can be countered.. what a ******* failpost this is. LAV"s are not free.. unless you bought a BPO or merc pack. Remotes aren't free either. The current state of Militia Tank spam and the imbalance it causes, specifically in ambush matches, is probably the most ridiculous bullshit I've seen since playing this game (including TAC AR's, Flaylock, Fused Core Locus spam, district locking, etc) But please, continue to tell us how awful it is to lose a tank every now and again to someone willing to suicide themselves and their LAV just to take you off the field for a minute. right lose around 25-30k isk with almost 100% chance to kill a 500k tank yeah cause that seems so logical I don't care about the mlt tanks the fact is it can 1 shot almost all tanks CCP already said they gonna fix the mlt spam anyway so why not deal with the easy 100% kill chance that barely costs anything and when I said free I mean it's bascily free because you can put your RE's on a LAV with almost nothing on it and change to a free suit and basicly lose almost nothing LOL. It's more like 33% if you are a good driver and the tank has no infantry support (some tankers are better drivers than others). I usually go with 7REs - STD & ADV + k2 nanohives so I can make another if my LAV is stolen before I can finish it (this happens about 50% of the time). if you had 12 RE's on a LAV it would kill any and just about all tanks so no it would be 100% and if it was a armor tank you hit it is without a doubt 100% |
Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
189
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Posted - 2014.02.24 15:05:00 -
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I figured I'd point this out since you can make a JLAV that costs maybe around 30-40k isk which can run circles around tanks(I know I do it all the time) I'm just gonna laugh when you say a tank is a crutch because your JLAV is an even bigger crutch |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2043
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Posted - 2014.02.24 15:09:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:Luk Manag wrote:Tailss Prower wrote: and this here is the very reason tankers are against the JLAVs I don't mind if you got RE's on the tank but when you can exploit and spam it like that makes it unbalanced no tank could survive that and for that very reason you shouldn't be allowed to do that or least not put that many on it.
you complain tanks are op yet your JLAV is even more OP and it's free if there isn't a more unbalanced tactic in this game than I don't what is.
This post is such hypocritical bullshit. Of course "tankers" are against anything that is a hard counter to their OP metal crutches. Jihad LAV"s are probably the only rock to your scissor right now, but god forbid anything like that is in the game. As an infantry player, there are many many ways I can be countered.. what a ******* failpost this is. LAV"s are not free.. unless you bought a BPO or merc pack. Remotes aren't free either. The current state of Militia Tank spam and the imbalance it causes, specifically in ambush matches, is probably the most ridiculous bullshit I've seen since playing this game (including TAC AR's, Flaylock, Fused Core Locus spam, district locking, etc) But please, continue to tell us how awful it is to lose a tank every now and again to someone willing to suicide themselves and their LAV just to take you off the field for a minute. right lose around 25-30k isk with almost 100% chance to kill a 500k tank yeah cause that seems so logical I don't care about the mlt tanks the fact is it can 1 shot almost all tanks CCP already said they gonna fix the mlt spam anyway so why not deal with the easy 100% kill chance that barely costs anything and when I said free I mean it's bascily free because you can put your RE's on a LAV with almost nothing on it and change to a free suit and basicly lose almost nothing
LOL. It's more like 33% if you are a good driver and the tank has no infantry support (some tankers are better drivers than others). I usually go with 7REs - STD & ADV + k2 nanohives so I can make another if my LAV is stolen before I can finish it (this happens about 50% of the time).[/quote] if you had 12 RE's on a LAV it would kill any and just about all tanks so no it would be 100% and if it was a armor tank you hit it is without a doubt 100%[/quote]
Assuming you managed to get to said tank, not easy when a sniper can blow up your remotes for you.
Combat Engineer in training.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1530
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Posted - 2014.02.24 15:29:00 -
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I don't Jihad Jeep anymore. Believe it or not, it costs too much.
Loading up my Logisitcs M-1 that's fit with STD, F/45s, and Boundless REs costs a decent amount on its own. Calling in a Baloch just makes it worse since I don't have an LAV BPO. Doing all of this just to have a "chance" at taking out an MLT tank makes me say "Fuck, you guys deal with it!" |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1079
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Posted - 2014.02.24 15:32:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:Oh and tanks are only hard to counter because of the people exploiting the hardners and most don't even do that most stack dmg mods and if you can't kill a sica thats packed with dmg mods a armor plate with a armor hardner then you really shouldn't play anyway the fact that you guys don't use your heads and some actual tactics is the very reaosn you can't counter the tanks I've seen plenty mow right through mlt tanks with AV hell even some mowed through mine which by no means is weak.
it's amazing how they have no trouble and you do
Most tankers don't use hardeners you say? What ******* game are you playing. where is this "most" statistic you just pulled out of your ass?
Its amazing that you assume I'm having problems with tanks. They are harder to take down now than pre-1.7 true, and they deserved a buff, but CCP done broke the AV>Vehicle balance pretty bad this build. Most players agree, die hard tankers are soaking in the tears because after a long time being underpowered.. they finally have the lime light they have craved. Congrats I guess. I run in a squad.. when tanks show their lovely heads I switch to AV with some other squad mates and we deal with it.
Yesterday, for whatever god awful reason the squad I was in wanted to run spambush. Nyain san showed up on the enemy team... nuff said. 6 blueberries on our team had zero warpoints. This particular corp, used for example purposes only, is so well known for tank spam their opponents would rather not play than even try.
The reason I make my posts is because I put my shoes on the feet of brand new players. What does this game look like to them? You probably, rather most certainly, don't come off as the type of player who gives two flux about the new player experience so I expect this to go straight over your head.
Ask yourself this question.... When a player is presented with an enemy tank (or 6) on the battlefield, and the most viable option to destroy or counter said tank(s) is to pack RE's onto an LAV, drive it into the side of the tank and commit suicide just to destroy the tank, what problem does this pose?
From the tankers persepective... it is an overpowered crutch that needs to be removed from the game. God forbid my tank gets one shotted by a kamikaze suicide bomber who was crafty enough to drive his one-hittable bomb through the battlefield and into the side of my metal crutch, even though one shot from anything would have destroyed him before he could have gotten to me. QQ
From the non-tankers perspective... there are no other viable means to deal with said tank, or tank spam.
So the crux of the problem is that there are no other viable means to counter tanks, right? besides advanced/proto AV or calling in your own tank. Go run a militia heavy, militia forge gun.. and let me know how well you have done against tank spam.. or god forbid actual tankers who have skilled into the profession.
This is from the new players perspective.. those who do not have a heavy suit with adv/proto FG (probably the only viable AV weapon.. see lolswarms, lolplasmacannon, lolavnades, lolproximines).
Do you get it now? Probably not.. because even a beta veteran tanker would agree that tanks in their current state, ability to spam the field of battle, recall, low price, etc etc are very far from balanced (which is what you were complaining about in your first post right? balance?) |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1530
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Posted - 2014.02.24 15:39:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Most tankers don't use hardeners you say? What ******* game are you playing. where is this "most" statistic you just pulled out of your ass? +1 |
Scheherazade VII
261
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Posted - 2014.02.24 15:48:00 -
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i would like to try this just for the fun of it
how many can i get without putting much SP into it? I have ADv cal logi so thats 3 equipment slots.
is that 9 REs? will 9 basic res destroy a soma? |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
363
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Posted - 2014.02.24 16:00:00 -
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Believe it or not, I never did the Jihad Jeep thingamajig. To much time wasting for me.
To each his own. o7
"If you can dodge a Wrench, you can dodge a Duvolle"
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution
792
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Posted - 2014.02.24 16:43:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Tailss Prower wrote:D34NOS MAZDA wrote:Hi All,
Just wondering how many remotes you all use on your jihad jeeps
I have 18, 24 if I use 2 suits.
5 boundless 5 republic boundless 4 F49's 4 Republic F49's
18
3 Std 3 republic Std
24 and this here is the very reason tankers are against the JLAVs I don't mind if you got RE's on the tank but when you can exploit and spam it like that makes it unbalanced no tank could survive that and for that very reason you shouldn't be allowed to do that or least not put that many on it. you complain tanks are op yet your JLAV is even more OP and it's free if there isn't a more unbalanced tactic in this game than I don't what is. This post is such hypocritical bullshit. Of course "tankers" are against anything that is a hard counter to their OP metal crutches. Jihad LAV"s are probably the only rock to your scissor right now, but god forbid anything like that is in the game. As an infantry player, there are many many ways I can be countered.. what a ******* failpost this is. LAV"s are not free.. unless you bought a BPO or merc pack. Remotes aren't free either. The current state of Militia Tank spam and the imbalance it causes, specifically in ambush matches, is probably the most ridiculous bullshit I've seen since playing this game (including TAC AR's, Flaylock, Fused Core Locus spam, district locking, etc) But please, continue to tell us how awful it is to lose a tank every now and again to someone willing to suicide themselves and their LAV just to take you off the field for a minute. right lose around 25-30k isk with almost 100% chance to kill a 500k tank yeah cause that seems so logical I don't care about the mlt tanks the fact is it can 1 shot almost all tanks CCP already said they gonna fix the mlt spam anyway so why not deal with the easy 100% kill chance that barely costs anything and when I said free I mean it's bascily free because you can put your RE's on a LAV with almost nothing on it and change to a free suit and basicly lose almost nothing JLAV. Costs nearly 30,000isk for boundless REs, same again for LAV, let's say 80,000isk for the total package. As others have said, your chance of reaching the tank in one piece is far from certain. Let's say 50% chance of success, even when you 'succeed' you die, so it costs about 160,000isk per kill.
Tank. Well fitted tank is 500,000isk. Gets you around 10 kills to 1 death if you're an average player, 25 kills to 1 death if you're a good player. So 20,000-50,000isk per kill, a small fraction of the cost of a JLAV kill.
Before you say 'kills aren't everything', I should point out that in ambush they are. Furthermore, a tank will have a much bigger impact on the flow of play than a RE LAV. No one ever ran away from an objective or hid indoors because a RE LAV was coming. So a tank is even better value in an objective-based game mode.
TL;DR - Tanks are OP, JLAV aren't. But I think you already knew that. |
Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
378
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:06:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I don't Jihad Jeep anymore. Believe it or not, it costs too much.
Loading up my Logisitcs M-1 that's fit with STD, F/45s, and Boundless REs costs a decent amount on its own. Calling in a Baloch just makes it worse since I don't have an LAV BPO. Doing all of this just to have a "chance" at taking out an MLT tank makes me say "Fuck, you guys deal with it!"
Same here, but suit costs can be avoided by swapping to a bpo suit if you aren't playing ambush. My problem is dying because of how buggy this game is, spontaneously blowing up, randomly flipping/corkscrewing on flat surfaces, clipping into thing and getting stuck, then stray infantry fire and people stealing my LAVs comes into the picture. Only players with bpo lavs could do it on a regular basis.
32db Mad Bomber.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
11511
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:10:00 -
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6, I very rarely need more.
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D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
325
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:42:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:
In relation to bullitt's last post above
Bullitt everything you have said i agree with 100%. and i have +1 all you posts in this thread and will hunt for more to +1
As for my own comments I generally only pull out a jihad jeep if there are multiple tanks on the field which are just camping the objectives etc. Tanks are so quick at the moment that this is the problem in my mind. If they couldn't escape so quick it would be fine but you get them to 1000 armour and they run off and recall the tank and get a new one (another broken mechanic). This means that there is no real viable option to destroy tanks at the moment. Other than proximity mines which can be driven over if you have a hardener active.
Tailss Prower Shamefully i am not able to give you any -1's otherwise i would.
I am sorry to any true tanker that i Jihad jeep but i am only using the one real anti tank tool to my disposal ATM. All FOTM tankers deserve it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1878
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:47:00 -
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D34NOS MAZDA wrote:Hi All,
Just wondering how many remotes you all use on your jihad jeeps
I have 18, 24 if I use 2 suits.
5 boundless 5 republic boundless 4 F49's 4 Republic F49's
18
3 Std 3 republic Std
24 You're so bad that you need to use that many? What a lame crutch.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
326
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:51:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:D34NOS MAZDA wrote:Hi All,
Just wondering how many remotes you all use on your jihad jeeps
I have 18, 24 if I use 2 suits.
5 boundless 5 republic boundless 4 F49's 4 Republic F49's
18
3 Std 3 republic Std
24 You're so bad that you need to use that many? What a lame crutch.
No Just makes sure incase they have a hardened gunlogi. PS i always make sure that I hit the battery pack at the back for the 168% bonus.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1100
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:52:00 -
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Dang spkr, woulda thought you had a lot more to say than just that failure of a troll post
lets see if my re7ard translator is working today
Spkr said "use less RE's so I have a chance at escaping while dual/triple hardened... peglegged crutch using scrubs"
lulz. |
D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
326
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:53:00 -
[33] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:Dang spkr, woulda thought you had a lot more to say than just that failure of a troll post
lets see if my re7ard translator is working today
Spkr said "use less RE's so I have a chance at escaping while dual/triple hardened... peglegged crutch using scrubs"
lulz.
another +1 bullitt
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
893
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:57:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:D34NOS MAZDA wrote:Hi All,
Just wondering how many remotes you all use on your jihad jeeps
I have 18, 24 if I use 2 suits.
5 boundless 5 republic boundless 4 F49's 4 Republic F49's
18
3 Std 3 republic Std
24 and this here is the very reason tankers are against the JLAVs I don't mind if you got RE's on the tank but when you can exploit and spam it like that makes it unbalanced no tank could survive that and for that very reason you shouldn't be allowed to do that or least not put that many on it. you complain tanks are op yet your JLAV is even more OP and it's free if there isn't a more unbalanced tactic in this game than I don't what is.
and when tanks triple stack those hardeners you get the JLAVS, tankers have themselves to blame for this, if they didnt exploit the triple hardeners you wouldnt be seeing us using JLAV tactics our FG, SL and anti-armor nades can't even do their jobs properly due to those players who triple stack hardeners.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
507
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:58:00 -
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Bullitt's on a roll!
Love ya, big guy. |
D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
330
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:01:00 -
[36] - Quote
Leadfoot10 wrote:Bullitt's on a roll!
Love ya, big guy.
I am waiting for bullitts response to spkr comment here where he is moaning about flaylocks |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1025
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:04:00 -
[37] - Quote
I use std and adv. I put them on the front edges of my LAV so the tanker won't know where they are immediately.
CCP Saberwing "Vehicles have taken a step in the right direction"
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darkiller240
WarRavens League of Infamy
463
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:09:00 -
[38] - Quote
OVER 9000 sry codent resist
be serious, 6 always 6 It ensures the kill without spending to much
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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Gunmouse
0uter.Heaven
170
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:11:00 -
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I put 31 on my LAV last night to test out something. Took out an entire CRU at full health |
D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
330
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:13:00 -
[40] - Quote
Gunmouse wrote:I put 31 on my LAV last night to test out something. Took out an entire CRU at full health
31 Gotta try that CRU destruction |
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Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
208
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:14:00 -
[41] - Quote
you can jump on the hood and throw those REs into the passenger seat to make it harder to get 1 shot, or placed them on 1 fender near the front to let you use the angle of approach to partially shield them. |
Gunmouse
0uter.Heaven
170
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:15:00 -
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Max someone could do themselves is 36, but i only have lvl 3 RE's so i cant use the isk boundless's Just make a couple fits with all the remotes, and nice hives and deploy near a safe supply depot, then switch to s a trash suit to die in with a single detonator in the equipment. Time consuming, but is funny as hell. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
508
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:16:00 -
[43] - Quote
D34NOS MAZDA wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Bullitt's on a roll!
Love ya, big guy. I am waiting for bullitts response to spkr comment here where he is moaning about flaylocks
Why you telling me?
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
189
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Posted - 2014.02.24 22:52:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Tailss Prower wrote:Oh and tanks are only hard to counter because of the people exploiting the hardners and most don't even do that most stack dmg mods and if you can't kill a sica thats packed with dmg mods a armor plate with a armor hardner then you really shouldn't play anyway the fact that you guys don't use your heads and some actual tactics is the very reaosn you can't counter the tanks I've seen plenty mow right through mlt tanks with AV hell even some mowed through mine which by no means is weak.
it's amazing how they have no trouble and you do Most tankers don't use hardeners you say? What ******* game are you playing. where is this "most" statistic you just pulled out of your ass? Its amazing that you assume I'm having problems with tanks. They are harder to take down now than pre-1.7 true, and they deserved a buff, but CCP done broke the AV>Vehicle balance pretty bad this build. Most players agree, die hard tankers are soaking in the tears because after a long time being underpowered.. they finally have the lime light they have craved. Congrats I guess. I run in a squad.. when tanks show their lovely heads I switch to AV with some other squad mates and we deal with it. Yesterday, for whatever god awful reason the squad I was in wanted to run spambush. Nyain san showed up on the enemy team... nuff said. 6 blueberries on our team had zero warpoints. This particular corp, used for example purposes only, is so well known for tank spam their opponents would rather not play than even try. The reason I make my posts is because I put my shoes on the feet of brand new players. What does this game look like to them? You probably, rather most certainly, don't come off as the type of player who gives two flux about the new player experience so I expect this to go straight over your head. Ask yourself this question.... When a player is presented with an enemy tank (or 6) on the battlefield, and the most viable option to destroy or counter said tank(s) is to pack RE's onto an LAV (or call in a tank of their own), drive it into the side of the tank and commit suicide just to destroy the tank, what problem does this pose? From the tankers persepective... it is an overpowered crutch that needs to be removed from the game. God forbid my tank gets one shotted by a kamikaze suicide bomber who was crafty enough to drive his one-hittable bomb through the battlefield and into the side of my metal crutch, even though one shot from anything would have destroyed him before he could have gotten to me. QQ From the non-tankers perspective... there are no other viable means to deal with said tank, or tank spam. So the crux of the problem is that there are no other viable means to counter tanks, right? besides advanced/proto AV or calling in your own tank. Go run a militia heavy, militia forge gun.. and let me know how well you have done against tank spam.. or god forbid actual tankers who have skilled into the profession. This is from the new players perspective.. those who do not have a heavy suit with adv/proto FG (probably the only viable AV weapon.. see lolswarms, lolplasmacannon, lolavnades, lolproximines). Do you get it now? Probably not.. because even a beta veteran tanker would agree that tanks in their current state, ability to spam the field of battle, recall, low price, etc etc are very far from balanced (which is what you were complaining about in your first post right? balance?) i've seen plenty hell i play side by side with noobs everyday but then you wouldn't know that either and thsoe noobs I play with I watch use AV and rather they kill them or not they don't actually ***** hell some of them have even told me they just avoid and ignore the tanks so your not looking at thier point of view just your own cause you don't know what every single noob says or does I hear them coomplain about ground combat more than I ever hear them complain about tanks 90% of the time when they see a tank they just go oh **** a tank and take cover thats about it if they die they die so get off your high horse that your speaking for the newbies when thats all I play with
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
189
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Posted - 2014.02.24 22:58:00 -
[45] - Quote
I agree the mlt tank spam is stupid CCP is already planning to fix this same to other issues like hardners but what you fail to understand that if they buffed AV then they have to change tanks all over again because as it stand if you hit 1 of those mlt tanks with an actual av fit without his hardners he couldn't take the hits but he can when he has hit hardner and you want to buff AV so that when he has hardners you basicly would 1 -2 shot him I'm sorry but when you people ***** that you can't kill tanks are always the ones who spam swarms at a tank with his hardners if the tank ran before his hardners were up that just makes him a smart tanker your only looking at tanks when they have thier hardners on not at how they would be with them off and thats the issue when it comes to wanting to buff AV
Hell I've seen someone 3 shot my armor maddy with a hardner on like it was nothing with a forge gun and you say it's underpowered doesn't look so underpowered when the people who are willing to go all out on tankers appear |
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