DUST Search - Tankers can do it

Asha Starwind wrote:

Arx Ardashir wrote:

Zack3000 Smith wrote:

Benjamin Heisenberg wrote:

the same controls you described could be implemented on the LAV. I mean you can do it in borderlands.

Lol, trying to drive a 4 wheeled vehicle using pedals? Do you know how a tank turns left? It's left tread goes backwards and the right one goes forwards. Do you know how a 4-wheeled vehicle goes left? It's front two tires turn to the left and all 4 wheels go forward.

I concur that you'd be able to get more kills like that. I'd never die in my rail turret LAV if I didn't have to be exposed as much as I would be on the back turret and if I could constantly move. Never dying is not a good thing for balance purposes.

[quote=Beld Errmon]Sounds like a great Assault LAV variant.

Also, please, please, people, stop saying "Assault variant of a LAV." Do you know what that would make it, then? An Assault Light Assault Vehicle. That's stupid.

Actually if you pulled your head out of your butt for second, you'd realized that many hi-po cars are starting to come out with all wheel steering and that the are fixed-axle wheeled tanks out in the real world.

but that besides the point.

Let's leave the vehicle's drive systems alone and an jump to tech found in another vehicle: fighter jets and their helmet mounted targeting systems. If we could already why can't we do so in a game set in the future.

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Zack3000 Smith Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:10:00 - [1] - Quote if Tankers can operate turret and drive at same time. I should be able to do the same in my LAV
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 581	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:21:00 - [2] - Quote Why? I contribute nothing.
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 123	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:22:00 - [3] - Quote actually that would be pretty cool.
Benjamin Heisenberg NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 10	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:27:00 - [4] - Quote Zack3000 Smith wrote: if Tankers can operate turret and drive at same time. I should be able to do the same in my LAV Who the hell so you think you are? Goro!? The tanking system is a dual pedal system. The right controling the right track and the left controling the left track. THUS GIVING U , 0 TURN. Your hands are free to control the turrets. Your hands in a LAV control the steering wheel.What the hell do you want CCP to do? Start TWISTED METAL 514?! Lol 'If thatGÇÖs true, if you donGÇÖt know who I am, then maybe your best courseGÇª would be to tread lightly.GÇÖ
Beld Errmon 0uter.Heaven 1399	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:31:00 - [5] - Quote Sounds like a great Assault LAV variant.
Zack3000 Smith Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 3	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:33:00 - [6] - Quote Benjamin Heisenberg wrote: Zack3000 Smith wrote: if Tankers can operate turret and drive at same time. I should be able to do the same in my LAV Who the hell so you think you are? Goro!? The tanking system is a dual pedal system. The right controling the right track and the left controling the left track. THUS GIVING U , 0 TURN. Your hands are free to control the turrets. Your hands in a LAV control the steering wheel.What the hell do you want CCP to do? Start TWISTED METAL 514?! Lol the same controls you described could be implemented on the LAV. I mean you can do it in borderlands.
Zack3000 Smith Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 3	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:37:00 - [7] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Why? Because i could have alot more kills if it was me driving and operating the turret. when i am driving the person that is operating the turret is always looking the other direction. forcing me to run people over.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 582	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:45:00 - [8] - Quote Zack3000 Smith wrote: Benjamin Heisenberg wrote: Zack3000 Smith wrote: if Tankers can operate turret and drive at same time. I should be able to do the same in my LAV Who the hell so you think you are? Goro!? The tanking system is a dual pedal system. The right controling the right track and the left controling the left track. THUS GIVING U , 0 TURN. Your hands are free to control the turrets. Your hands in a LAV control the steering wheel.What the hell do you want CCP to do? Start TWISTED METAL 514?! Lol the same controls you described could be implemented on the LAV. I mean you can do it in borderlands. Lol, trying to drive a 4 wheeled vehicle using pedals? Do you know how a tank turns left? It's left tread goes backwards and the right one goes forwards. Do you know how a 4-wheeled vehicle goes left? It's front two tires turn to the left and all 4 wheels go forward. I concur that you'd be able to get more kills like that. I'd never die in my rail turret LAV if I didn't have to be exposed as much as I would be on the back turret and if I could constantly move. Never dying is not a good thing for balance purposes. Beld Errmon wrote: Sounds like a great Assault LAV variant. Also, please, please, people, stop saying "Assault variant of a LAV." Do you know what that would make it, then? An Assault Light Assault Vehicle. That's stupid. I contribute nothing.
Beld Errmon 0uter.Heaven 1400	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:51:00 - [9] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Sounds like a great Assault LAV variant. Also, please, please, people, stop saying "Assault variant of a LAV." Do you know what that would make it, then? An Assault Light Assault Vehicle. That's stupid. Heh yeah that wouldn't make a lot of sense now would it, sorry my brain is frazzled from filling my freighter up in jita, so many numbers to crunch, I guess it would just be a recon variant, lose seats gain some bonuses towards speed and a lower profile.
Zack3000 Smith Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 3	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:59:00 - [10] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Zack3000 Smith wrote: Benjamin Heisenberg wrote: Zack3000 Smith wrote: if Tankers can operate turret and drive at same time. I should be able to do the same in my LAV Who the hell so you think you are? Goro!? The tanking system is a dual pedal system. The right controling the right track and the left controling the left track. THUS GIVING U , 0 TURN. Your hands are free to control the turrets. Your hands in a LAV control the steering wheel.What the hell do you want CCP to do? Start TWISTED METAL 514?! Lol the same controls you described could be implemented on the LAV. I mean you can do it in borderlands. Lol, trying to drive a 4 wheeled vehicle using pedals? Do you know how a tank turns left? It's left tread goes backwards and the right one goes forwards. Do you know how a 4-wheeled vehicle goes left? It's front two tires turn to the left and all 4 wheels go forward. I concur that you'd be able to get more kills like that. I'd never die in my rail turret LAV if I didn't have to be exposed as much as I would be on the back turret and if I could constantly move. Never dying is not a good thing for balance purposes. Beld Errmon wrote: Sounds like a great Assault LAV variant. Also, please, please, people, stop saying "Assault variant of a LAV." Do you know what that would make it, then? An Assault Light Assault Vehicle. That's stupid. I understand that in real life this could not happen..But there is alot of things that go on in dust514 that would not happen in real life...I am just saying that tankers should have to use team work like the rest of us.

Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 890	Posted - 2014.02.23 13:00:00 - [11] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Sounds like a great Assault LAV variant. Also, please, please, people, stop saying "Assault variant of a LAV." Do you know what that would make it, then? An Assault Light Assault Vehicle. That's stupid. Kind of like an ATM machine? One of my pet peeves. And also the gunner is much more exposed than the driver so you can shoot them more easily. Being able to control the turret from the driver's seat would remove (or at least substantially reduce) that vulnerability. Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1793	Posted - 2014.02.23 14:59:00 - [12] - Quote We'll call it a Light Armoured Vehicle, then. Problem solved. AssLAV sounds like a plan. Forge on for great justice! Defend the meek! Destroy the weak! Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2684	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:18:00 - [13] - Quote Fine by me Intelligence is OP
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 375	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:19:00 - [14] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Zack3000 Smith wrote: Benjamin Heisenberg wrote: Zack3000 Smith wrote: if Tankers can operate turret and drive at same time. I should be able to do the same in my LAV Who the hell so you think you are? Goro!? The tanking system is a dual pedal system. The right controling the right track and the left controling the left track. THUS GIVING U , 0 TURN. Your hands are free to control the turrets. Your hands in a LAV control the steering wheel.What the hell do you want CCP to do? Start TWISTED METAL 514?! Lol the same controls you described could be implemented on the LAV. I mean you can do it in borderlands. Lol, trying to drive a 4 wheeled vehicle using pedals? Do you know how a tank turns left? It's left tread goes backwards and the right one goes forwards. Do you know how a 4-wheeled vehicle goes left? It's front two tires turn to the left and all 4 wheels go forward. I concur that you'd be able to get more kills like that. I'd never die in my rail turret LAV if I didn't have to be exposed as much as I would be on the back turret and if I could constantly move. Never dying is not a good thing for balance purposes. Beld Errmon wrote: Sounds like a great Assault LAV variant. Also, please, please, people, stop saying "Assault variant of a LAV." Do you know what that would make it, then? An Assault Light Assault Vehicle. That's stupid. Actually if you pulled your head out of your butt for second, you'd realized that many hi-po cars are starting to come out with all wheel steering and that the are fixed-axle wheeled tanks out in the real world. but that besides the point. Let's leave the vehicle's drive systems alone and an jump to tech found in another vehicle: fighter jets and their helmet mounted targeting systems. If we could already why can't we do so in a game set in the future. 32db Mad Bomber.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1795	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:25:00 - [15] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: Zack3000 Smith wrote: Benjamin Heisenberg wrote: the same controls you described could be implemented on the LAV. I mean you can do it in borderlands. Lol, trying to drive a 4 wheeled vehicle using pedals? Do you know how a tank turns left? It's left tread goes backwards and the right one goes forwards. Do you know how a 4-wheeled vehicle goes left? It's front two tires turn to the left and all 4 wheels go forward. I concur that you'd be able to get more kills like that. I'd never die in my rail turret LAV if I didn't have to be exposed as much as I would be on the back turret and if I could constantly move. Never dying is not a good thing for balance purposes. [quote=Beld Errmon]Sounds like a great Assault LAV variant. Also, please, please, people, stop saying "Assault variant of a LAV." Do you know what that would make it, then? An Assault Light Assault Vehicle. That's stupid. Actually if you pulled your head out of your butt for second, you'd realized that many hi-po cars are starting to come out with all wheel steering and that the are fixed-axle wheeled tanks out in the real world. but that besides the point. Let's leave the vehicle's drive systems alone and an jump to tech found in another vehicle: fighter jets and their helmet mounted targeting systems. If we could already why can't we do so in a game set in the future. You can have a LAV with a pilot-controlled gun if my Amarr HAV hovers. Because future, that's why. Forge on for great justice! Defend the meek! Destroy the weak! Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1183	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:29:00 - [16] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: You can have a LAV with a pilot-controlled gun if my Amarr HAV hovers. Because future, that's why. Because f*** gravity But I'm personally against having "anti-gravity" hover systems in Dust; doesn't fit in New Eden's lore. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Adelia Lafayette Science For Death 704	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:34:00 - [17] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: You can have a LAV with a pilot-controlled gun if my Amarr HAV hovers. Because future, that's why. Because f*** gravity But I'm personally against having "anti-gravity" hover systems in Dust; doesn't fit in New Eden's lore. how is that big ass MCC in the sky hovering then? Assault dropship gets blown up.... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"... ..."I'm back"
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 383	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:35:00 - [18] - Quote You can. Just hop your @$$ in the back , risk being shot so they not only get to kill you , they get your jeep as well .. you people need to quit acting like children with this hatefulness of tankers. Your hatred is noted. Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 656	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:38:00 - [19] - Quote An ALAV, have the turret locked to the front, with the trigger as a thumb switch on the steering wheel. CCP your matchmaking is better but still sucks a fair amount Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 989	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:41:00 - [20] - Quote I kind of support this, as it means more LAVs that are a viable source of damage against my tank which I can then kill until they die for some fairly easy points, but at the same time, it'll just encourage the jihad jeep players to be douchebags even more. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.

Villanor Aquarius WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 136	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:42:00 - [21] - Quote I would like an assault variant where the back turret is the old small turret from skirmish 1.0 and the driver has more cover like a metal cover to the driver seat. With bonuses similar to ass dropships you now have a sweet car. Also i could be mistaken but i believe LAV stands for light attack vehicle. So an assault variant is not a redundant acronym.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1664	Posted - 2014.02.23 15:58:00 - [22] - Quote Zack3000 Smith wrote: if Tankers can operate turret and drive at same time. I should be able to do the same in my LAV Agreed, OP. There's no reason why not - with modern control systems it would be trivial. I support SP rollover.
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt 0uter.Heaven 404	Posted - 2014.02.23 16:01:00 - [23] - Quote Relax with the ideas... Their heads will blow up trying to code it. Keep it minimal #Dud514
Rodd of Nor Nor Clan Combat Logistics 12	Posted - 2014.02.23 16:35:00 - [24] - Quote Actually it is possible to have a turret for the driver, it would just have to be hard mounted you would have to aim it by steering the lav and it wouldn't be hard even today to mount a trigger mechanism to the steering wheel It is better to be thought an idiot, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Zack3000 Smith Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:39:00 - [25] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: An ALV, have the turret locked to the front, with the trigger as a thumb switch on the steering wheel. precisely. 2 turrets.. 1 on front 1 on back...for the QQ just one on front and 3 seats. That way i can lay down covering fire for my squad when they jump out at objective.
Zack3000 Smith Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:45:00 - [26] - Quote [/quote] Actually if you pulled your head out of your butt for second, you'd realized that many hi-po cars are starting to come out with all wheel steering and that the are fixed-axle wheeled tanks out in the real world. but that besides the point. Let's leave the vehicle's drive systems alone and an jump to tech found in another vehicle: fighter jets and their helmet mounted targeting systems. If we could already why can't we do so in a game set in the future.[/quote] I am sorry. I didnt know that. regardless this should be in the game. every vehicle can drive while shooting except the LAV. which is BS
Toby Flenderson research lab 284	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:00:00 - [27] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Why? Yeah I don't really get this either. I don't care for tanks being one-man-armies but I don't see how this means that people should be able to operate a turret while driving a car. I don't pretend to understand exactly how a tank would work on the inside but it's much easier for me to imagine someone in the control of a tank and the turret rather than how I would manage to operate a turret while driving my car.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1407	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:03:00 - [28] - Quote Finally somebody gets it! Lavs are borderline completely useless this build. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 268	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:30:00 - [29] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: You can have a LAV with a pilot-controlled gun if my Amarr HAV hovers. Because future, that's why. Because f*** gravity But I'm personally against having "anti-gravity" hover systems in Dust; doesn't fit in New Eden's lore. I'd love an anti-gravity system for aerial vehicles. Give me that with fighter jets and I'll control the skies. Comes from years of flying Star Wars ships It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San


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