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Chuckles Brown
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Posted - 2014.02.22 08:18:00 -
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Leave it alone.
Bring back the TacAR to its former glory! It was wrongfully nerfed back then. Undo what was done!
The Official alt of 8213
Do you pub, brah?
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
722
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Posted - 2014.02.22 08:19:00 -
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heh
Signatures? Since when?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLHBAzAiFNk
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KGB Sleep
746
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Posted - 2014.02.22 08:43:00 -
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Chuckles Brown wrote:Leave it alone.
Bring back the TacAR to its former glory! It was wrongfully nerfed back then. Undo what was done!
TAC and Breach AR will be pretty sweet on Gallente Assaults. They get Dispersion and Kick reductions as Assault suit bonus in 1.8.
Because beer, that's why.
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.22 09:04:00 -
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RR: what killed me oh i think it was that spec thats smaller then the dot on my sight and to far away for me to do real damage
TacAR: what killed me idk i didn't get the chance to look my body hit the ground to fast
moral of the story: at least RRs give you the chance to get away |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.22 09:09:00 -
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No.
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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axu jen
The Phoenix Federation
Proficiency V.
9
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Posted - 2014.02.22 10:59:00 -
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How to fix rail rifles? Remove everything rail related from the game.
Its obvious that CCP loves rails too much, sexual inuendo intended ;) |
HYENAKILLER X
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.22 11:02:00 -
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Chuckles Brown wrote:Leave it alone.
Bring back the TacAR to its former glory! It was wrongfully nerfed back then. Undo what was done!
What was the tac ar like back then?
Tanks are for pussies.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
473
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Posted - 2014.02.22 11:03:00 -
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axu jen wrote:How to fix rail rifles? Remove everything rail related from the game.
Its obvious that CCP loves rails too much, sexual inuendo intended ;)
I love tacos....
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter mlt frame,
Templar set
Caldari Master Race
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Chuckles Brown
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Posted - 2014.02.22 11:08:00 -
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You have to remeber the TacAR ruled in a game that was much different than we have today.
You have better hit detection, so you don't have to resort to super high DPS weapons to break even. That TacAR was before the SCR even was put into the game when it ruled. Now it has competition -if it was brought back to its former self.
Its still okay to use, but 18 shots in a clip is crazy, you're forcing a reload. The SCR has to manage heat, but still has a full mag to work with, and the RR can't shoot continuously until empty.
The TacAR was a nerf I didn't agree with. It was one of those nerfs that was needed at the time perhaps because a lack of content, but now it's needed more than ever. This nerf hammer thing will only end in more FoTM garbage. We should work on buffing things to match one another but still have unique characteristics.
The Official alt of 8213
Do you pub, brah?
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axu jen
The Phoenix Federation
Proficiency V.
9
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Posted - 2014.02.22 11:18:00 -
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Quote: This nerf hammer thing will only end in more FoTM garbage. We should work on buffing things to match one another but still have unique characteristics.
I agree with this, it seems like CCPs reaction to any OP weapon is to nerf it back to oblivion, why bother creating content if you're going to make it useless?
The reason why the RR and to some extent the CR dominate the games is because other weapons cannot compete, take the AR for example which should your all around average weapon but it cannot compete neither in range nor damage. My suggestion would be to buff the AR range and damage a little, nerf some of the RR damage, and reduce the CR range a little bit, now all 3 weapons can compete with each other with their own strengths and weaknesses. |
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
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Posted - 2014.02.22 11:49:00 -
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Chuckles Brown wrote:Leave it alone.
Bring back the TacAR to its former glory! It was wrongfully nerfed back then. Undo what was done!
That would be nice.
I still like my TacAR better now then before because now it takes skill to use and it's far from easy mode to score a kill with it while in a 249 eHP scout vs all the FOTM RR CR crowd HP tanked logi or heavies
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
672
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Posted - 2014.02.22 11:52:00 -
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DMG mods are the issue with ALL 4 AR variants....
nothing will change until we lose the ability to stack 30%+ DMG on rifles
Plasma Cannon will have its chance if AR/HAV 514 is ever fixed
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
494
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Posted - 2014.02.22 12:05:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:DMG mods are the issue with ALL 4 AR variants....
nothing will change until we lose the ability to stack 30%+ DMG on rifles
4 damage mods? lol
Nobody I know in this game does that.
2? Sure. 3? Some people. 4? lol
FYI, the 4th mod takes damage from 26.38% to 29.96% -- about 3.5%. A waste of PG/CPU, and why nobody does it. |
Chuckles Brown
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Posted - 2014.02.22 12:08:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:DMG mods are the issue with ALL 4 AR variants....
nothing will change until we lose the ability to stack 30%+ DMG on rifles
That comes with a major sacrifice and 30% isn't likely to achieve because of the how much CPU Damage modes take.
Most anybody that stacks over 2 is a scrub and is getting owned because they don't have anything to compliment on their fitting.
You won't even see 3 mod stacking in PC.
And, I'd rather someone fit a dropsuit to make their weapon powerful than the weapon being powerful all unto its own.
I'm sort of a hypocrite on this situation, as I am a SCR user. My Vizium build will pop just about everything and anything that moves. Its only counter-part is a build equal in stature (Proto assault logi, brick Gal, etc). But that's a high class fit, about as good as it can get in this game.
However, that build cost me millions of SP specifically. I tried adding up one time, but never completed it, its something like 5+ million SP went into making that specific build.
The Official alt of 8213
Do you pub, brah?
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.02.22 16:28:00 -
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You get 15 % from proficiency, added with 18% from 2 DMG mods = 33% DMG
it's the DMG mods along with proficiency that cause issue,
I presumed we've all played Dust long enough to know this
My apologies for not being specific in my OP
Plasma Cannon will have its chance if AR/HAV 514 is ever fixed
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.22 16:43:00 -
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With this nerf coming I can't help but wonder how we will handle heavies..if the DMG is nerfed to much then there will be your fotm..
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.02.22 16:48:00 -
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Sad its what happens when ignorance declares it knows what its talking about. The RR didn't need a nerf, the ones complaining about it needed a buff in their perspective. You can't possibly talk about the RR and you mention nothing about the SCR and CR.
But when the lemmings speak, the game alters
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
2938
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Posted - 2014.02.22 16:55:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:You get 15 % from proficiency, added with 18% from 2 DMG mods = 33% DMG
it's the DMG mods along with proficiency that cause issue,
I presumed we've all played Dust long enough to know this
My apologies for not being specific in my OP
That's a problem with proficiency, not damage mods. Face it, you wouldn't have any problem with people stacking two damage mods for only 18% damage if it meant they were sacrificing tank.
But instead we get people that stack 15% damage AND are also able to brick tank heavily. Change proficiency to 1% per level and lower the SP costs so it isn't totally worthless to go into. Don't scapegoat damage mods when extenders and plates both outperform them in reality.
Shield Recommendations
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2014.02.22 17:07:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:You get 15 % from proficiency, added with 18% from 2 DMG mods = 33% DMG
it's the DMG mods along with proficiency that cause issue,
I presumed we've all played Dust long enough to know this
My apologies for not being specific in my OP
You cannot nerf Damage Mods without also nerfing Shield Extenders. The two modules are in a relative state of balance, and Shield Extenders win in a straight-up fight. (Yes, even if you have ScRs shooting at each other.)
Nerf Damage Mods, and Complex Shield Extenders will be the only hi-slot module worth equipping. And call me crazy, but I don't think shields need a nerf right now.
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.02.22 17:10:00 -
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hmmm... nice counter Logi Bro... I do agree with you there
Plasma Cannon will have its chance if AR/HAV 514 is ever fixed
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
136
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Posted - 2014.02.22 17:12:00 -
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i agree everything was wrongly nerfed before HD fix. MD, laser, tac, breach AR, shotuns, flaylock, ffs the list is huge of over nerfed weps.. what a debacle
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1627
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Posted - 2014.02.22 17:15:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:TheD1CK wrote:You get 15 % from proficiency, added with 18% from 2 DMG mods = 33% DMG
it's the DMG mods along with proficiency that cause issue,
I presumed we've all played Dust long enough to know this
My apologies for not being specific in my OP
That's a problem with proficiency, not damage mods. Face it, you wouldn't have any problem with people stacking two damage mods for only 18% damage if it meant they were sacrificing tank. But instead we get people that stack 15% damage AND are also able to brick tank heavily. Change proficiency to 1% per level and lower the SP costs so it isn't totally worthless to go into. Don't scapegoat damage mods when extenders and plates both outperform them in reality.
Well if pro gets changed I want my sp back I have 5 rifles pro 5 and thats a lot of wasted sp if they change it.
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
136
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Posted - 2014.02.22 17:20:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Chuckles Brown wrote:Leave it alone.
Bring back the TacAR to its former glory! It was wrongfully nerfed back then. Undo what was done! What was the tac ar like back then?
it was FOTM when hit detect sucked and was being abused by modded controllers. the clips size nerf was a typical CCP over kill
for like 2 weeks there was a bug that made the TAC full auto and it had 25 rounds. it was actually kind of balanced becuase you only had enough rounds to kill 1 person.
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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