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Scheherazade VII
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:32:00 -
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anyone?
i used the ELM earlier (no prof) and 2x complex damage mods.
I went 27-5 in my best game, if it wasn't for ******* snipers too scared to come to the objective I would have been 30-2 that's a good score regardless for an extremely hard to use weapon.
Taking on heavies with it is pretty good, the problem is you HAVE to have the high ground, if somebody sneaks up on you, you're toast. The problem with that is the stupid amount of snipers this game has.
I remember when people would sit on the roof and go 30-0, 40-0 without a problem using the Viziam. It was over-powered, then they broke it.
How do CCP make it so ZERO people use a certain weapon after they "tweak" it, it's either OP or UP but always broken.
Anyway does anybody use this gun? does anybody rise to the challenge or do you all spam rail rifles? (stupid question). It's satisfying to use and once it receives a buff it will be DEADLY. |
Aisha Ctarl
Fatal Absolution
3477
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:34:00 -
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I use it occasionally and do well with it, I just find it funny that light is out ranged by projectiles in this game.
I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
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Green Living
0uter.Heaven
1196
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:35:00 -
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Been using the LR since its inception, proficiency 5. Haven't bothered touching it since 1.7. Hopefully 1.8 will be a new day for the LR, though I wont hold my breath. |
Denchlad 7
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
78
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:37:00 -
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I only ever bring out my lolviziam if im in the mood to get toasted by RR's even at max damage output.
If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world.
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
69
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:38:00 -
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There hasn't been any laser rifles.
Not since the war.
Unleash the Fogwoggler
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Tectonic Fusion
1087
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:39:00 -
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I haven't even tried to use it since Rail Rifles came out. If the ttk for Rail RIfles is low enough, I'll actually use the laser.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
396
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:42:00 -
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I use it from time to time, LR/SMG combo still rocks the house, but yeah its a sniper weapon, as soon as you have a cover fight on the ground you're ******.
I love the idea behind the LR, bt it does unfortunately to less damage for its disadvantages. I wouldn't even say the LR ever was OP. What made it appear OP looking back in chromo was the size limitation on 1(!!!) map in 1(!!!) gamemode. It was manus peak in ambush, once you got the fishbowl you were superior cos everybody was in your optimal range, the weapon just worked as ists supposed to be in other gamemodes and other maps, but well forum-stupidity won once more in history of Dust lol
another one bites the Dust...
Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
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Scheherazade VII
224
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:44:00 -
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it's still usable though guys, but yeh it's heavily outclassed by the rail rifle, so is everything, did they even test that gun? 80m, 800 damage in one second? yeh that's fine ******* release it already.
anyway once the LR gets buffed people are in trouble, all these RR scrubs on the ground (once their range is nerfed) will be constantly running around in circles trying to get away from our beams!!!
If we get a respec ill probably switch accounts just to so ill have the SP to prof V the LR!!! |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1644
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:58:00 -
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About to try it for the first time ever, after almost 2 years with the game - on my Ammarian alt, will be speccing into it this weekend.
But after the scrmbler Rifl, i'm suspecting that anything else will be a letdown.
I support SP rollover.
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
482
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:07:00 -
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yep, it's my main weapon along with the ScR.
You can get insane damage going on if you focus a heated beam on someone's head, the problem with that is the scope is inappropriate for its engagement range.
gibe better scopez pls ccp |
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DJINN Loki
120
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:10:00 -
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i use it on an alt that i play on occasion. i like to imagine that people on the other side are like and im like . i think its a good way to surprise people and its a challenge
word
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
303
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:10:00 -
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I use it as a laser pointer to highlight all the FW space we own on the star map as I'm giving my daily Amarr roflstomp debrief at the Republic barracks.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1269
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Posted - 2014.02.21 22:05:00 -
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PLayed with the burnstalk all of last weekend. Was not fun getting out-ranged by Rail Rifles
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
738
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Posted - 2014.02.21 22:07:00 -
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it needs more range, as it is the Amarr long range precision weapon
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2734
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Posted - 2014.02.21 22:20:00 -
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I get toasted with a ELM-7 about once every 3 months. I'm still a little scarred from the OP Viziams era, but they should be fixed.
I GÖú Kittens.
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LT Dans Legs
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
278
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Posted - 2014.02.21 22:21:00 -
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I only pull it out when the time is right for it. Usually Manu Peak. |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
693
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Posted - 2014.02.21 22:33:00 -
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I used it on my Amarr alt, and got it to proficiency 3... right before 1.7 hit.
I haven't touched that account since. |
IR Scifi
Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy
115
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Posted - 2014.02.21 22:37:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:I only pull it out when the time is right for it. Usually Manu Peak.
I've got a corpie that does pretty much the same thing, gets on that map finds a high point and just melts faces off with it. Otherwise the LR stays at home. |
Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
171
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Posted - 2014.02.21 22:38:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:anyone?
i used the ELM earlier (no prof) and 2x complex damage mods.
I went 27-5 in my best game, if it wasn't for ******* snipers too scared to come to the objective I would have been 30-2 that's a good score regardless for an extremely hard to use weapon.
Taking on heavies with it is pretty good, the problem is you HAVE to have the high ground, if somebody sneaks up on you, you're toast. The problem with that is the stupid amount of snipers this game has.
I remember when people would sit on the roof and go 30-0, 40-0 without a problem using the Viziam. It was over-powered, then they broke it.
How do CCP make it so ZERO people use a certain weapon after they "tweak" it, it's either OP or UP but always broken.
Anyway does anybody use this gun? does anybody rise to the challenge or do you all spam rail rifles? (stupid question). It's satisfying to use and once it receives a buff it will be DEADLY.
hey I was your squad leader.
B
Double O
T
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2792
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Posted - 2014.02.21 23:07:00 -
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I got prof 3 laser rifle, but generally never take it out
Templar BPO(375Mil)
EVE Pilot
I feed off your tears
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Green Living
0uter.Heaven
1200
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Posted - 2014.02.22 19:08:00 -
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What others are saying. The weapon isn't UP it's just far too situational at the moment. I prefer to play the game and not camp one of the few areas on certain maps that the weapon is viable in. |
Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
139
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Posted - 2014.02.22 19:15:00 -
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I use the Laser Rifle! I'm working on Prof. IV right now.
Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
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Scheherazade VII
241
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Posted - 2014.02.22 20:10:00 -
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Green Living wrote:What others are saying. The weapon isn't UP it's just far too situational at the moment. I prefer to play the game and not camp one of the few areas on certain maps that the weapon is viable in.
unfortunately because you have to keep your target at the optimum distance I agree that using the LR boils down to nothing but having to camp, usually on the high-ground, which just results in me getting sniped lol. |
Scheherazade VII
241
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Posted - 2014.02.22 20:11:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:anyone?
i used the ELM earlier (no prof) and 2x complex damage mods.
I went 27-5 in my best game, if it wasn't for ******* snipers too scared to come to the objective I would have been 30-2 that's a good score regardless for an extremely hard to use weapon.
Taking on heavies with it is pretty good, the problem is you HAVE to have the high ground, if somebody sneaks up on you, you're toast. The problem with that is the stupid amount of snipers this game has.
I remember when people would sit on the roof and go 30-0, 40-0 without a problem using the Viziam. It was over-powered, then they broke it.
How do CCP make it so ZERO people use a certain weapon after they "tweak" it, it's either OP or UP but always broken.
Anyway does anybody use this gun? does anybody rise to the challenge or do you all spam rail rifles? (stupid question). It's satisfying to use and once it receives a buff it will be DEADLY. hey I was your squad leader.
I kinda remember, Anmol Singh invited me in and it was fun but then I got mad about **** in the game had to ragequit the squad looool
all i have to say is people like "its me" don't hold a candle to Anmol Singh, he destroyed several hardened gunnlogis and madrugars with nothing but a Sica. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1705
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Posted - 2014.02.22 20:14:00 -
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I use an ELM on my advanced Amarr assault suit. I am a bad shot so my best is like 7/5, I am a logi. It is great and I love it on the Amarr assult. It's the only assault I use and pretty much my second choice after a Exile AR.
"You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus."
Raoul Duke
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3174
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Posted - 2014.02.22 20:16:00 -
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I had proficiency and then got the Templar set. That Assault & Laser setup just feels . . . right.
If it wasn't for the Rail & Combat rifles it would be among the most balanced weapons in the game. It's OP in the right hands, and UP in the wrong ones. Just how it should be.
You can go an entire match and wonder why anybody thinks it needs a buff. Then a Rail Rifle decides he doesn't like you.
No.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3174
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Posted - 2014.02.22 20:18:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:Green Living wrote:What others are saying. The weapon isn't UP it's just far too situational at the moment. I prefer to play the game and not camp one of the few areas on certain maps that the weapon is viable in. unfortunately because you have to keep your target at the optimum distance I agree that using the LR boils down to nothing but having to camp, usually on the high-ground, which just results in me getting sniped lol.
No, you use the Amarr's stamina to flank an entrenched enemy, then you reap the war points with that epic damage output.
No.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
759
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Posted - 2014.02.22 20:35:00 -
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I'm starting to use it again. Have to get over the viziam514 somehow. And Duvolle514.
Psycho Scout
The more I see the less I like, is it over yet?
DONT. TOUCH. ME.
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ZeroGeass
POISION ROSES Galactic Skyfleet Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.02.22 21:04:00 -
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I use the lr for fun, it get boring playing serious all the time. I care less bout kd. Have a full squad of lr and it pretty fun. It feel like star war lol
There no such thing as no such things
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
868
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Posted - 2014.02.22 21:09:00 -
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0/
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
150
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Posted - 2014.02.22 21:10:00 -
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I'm sure the laser rifle has it's good points. I just can't get past how dumb it looks.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1270
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Posted - 2014.02.23 00:09:00 -
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From time to time.
I only ever used the Mass Driver once, though. I like the laser more. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3178
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Posted - 2014.02.23 00:22:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:I'm sure the laser rifle has it's good points. I just can't get past how dumb it looks.
I channel surfed into a documentary on sex changes once. It was mid-op. Lets just say the laser looks like that poor member.
No.
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2048
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Posted - 2014.02.23 02:48:00 -
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I use the laser every time I log on. It's still kind of useful. I find it hilarious when I can power through a few RR users when I'm in my optimal. the LR is a rare enough beast that most people don't know or have forgotten to GTFO after the beam has been heated up a bit.
It suffers from some big oversights, though.
The weapon tiers are utterly and totally broken. There is absolutely no reason to use any higher than standard level LRs. The ELM and the Viziam do not do any more damage. I tested them all out and I noticed no extra damage output from the higher tiers leading to the only advantage being the fact the higher tiers can fire just slightly longer.
And really it's only slightly. with amarr assault maxxed I can fire the STD LR until there is 20 charges left in the rifle. The Viziam can fire until there are 16 charges left. Sure the extra fraction of a second can do lots of damage but you rarely ever actually get to that point.
And even then you'll be close to overheating. With the standard lasers OHs are no big deal. 100 damage or so. With the higher tiers those numbers go up to 175 and 225 IIRC.
So that leaves the higher tier LRs actually way worse than the standard. They have higher fitting costs and are much more dangerous to use for an extremely meager bonus.
If the LR tree got the same ~5% per tier damage boost as any other weapon and the OH penalty dropped to 100 for all tiers it'd be in a good spot, keeping in mind a dev stated that it is getting an extended range in 1.8 as well.
The passive bonus from the LR operations skill is useless too. The cooldown sounds useful but in reality it is worthless. after firing the LR for long enough to get a kill you will want to reload. By the time you are done reloading then you will have a cool gun with or without passives. If you fired the gun for just a little bit then it won't be hot enough for the passive to be all that useful for you either.
But if anyone wants to try to use the LR right now, There's some fittings I use that actually have good results. Well, good results considering you are using the LR.
The one I run most often is on a standard amarr assault frame.
Complex damage mod enhanced damage mod
basic armor repper
STD LR. Scrambler pistol
Locus grenades
Nano hive
And the other LR fit I use is on an ADV assault suit.
2x Complex damage mods
Enhanced armor plate Complex armor repper
STD LR tt-3 assault SCP
m-1 locus (though I'm thinking about upgrading to core)
k-2 nanohive.
Hope this helps any novice laser enthusiasts.
Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
581
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Posted - 2014.02.23 02:53:00 -
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As I only run Amarr weapons on this character (my main), I do indeed use the laser rifle and have Prof 5 with it. Sometimes I do well, sometimes I blunder around like I'm shining it in my own eyes.
I contribute nothing.
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Bulletmonkey50
Savage Bullet
27
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Posted - 2014.02.23 03:44:00 -
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I still do. used it today, used it yesterday, used it since it came out. and i haven't abandoned it even though it isn't shining as much as it did in chromosome. but i cant wait for 1.8 |
neausea 1987
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
46
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Posted - 2014.02.23 04:05:00 -
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as a scout i l a tweakove the laser and i dont even have dmg mods but it does need a tweak
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ what i do to proto suit users
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7403
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Posted - 2014.02.23 04:12:00 -
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Been using the LR since chromosome non stop.
All Amarr all the way.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1264
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Posted - 2014.02.23 04:16:00 -
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the rail rifle has filled it's niche. I hope to use the lr again someday. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5039
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Posted - 2014.02.23 04:18:00 -
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Green Living wrote:What others are saying. The weapon isn't UP it's just far too situational at the moment. I prefer to play the game and not camp one of the few areas on certain maps that the weapon is viable in. It's not really an issue of being far-too situational, it's just that pretty much every rifle outperforms it's niche.
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
I've adapted, and soon I will HTFU...
...Permanently. In a Gunnlogi
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KrazyEyeKilla
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
33
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Posted - 2014.02.23 04:19:00 -
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Wished they gave it the original scope back. I know some people liked the iron sight and the current one is fine but always thought the weapon never needed any adjustments in that area. |
wait reloading
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.02.23 11:22:00 -
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Always use my laser, but I tend to get as many assists as I do kills. |
Beld Errmon
0uter.Heaven
1400
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Posted - 2014.02.23 12:42:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Green Living wrote:What others are saying. The weapon isn't UP it's just far too situational at the moment. I prefer to play the game and not camp one of the few areas on certain maps that the weapon is viable in. It's not really an issue of being far-too situational, it's just that pretty much every rifle outperforms it's niche.
Outperforms it and have no draw backs like losing dmg when the target gets closer, thats where it is situational, its great in situations where the enemy can't easily close range with you. |
Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1409
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Posted - 2014.02.23 13:11:00 -
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ran 36/0 with it yesterday is my favorite light weapon always will be and i think my gun game accounts for it up state..also as for people closing in cqc put a bad ass sidearm on u lr fit and learn how to use it i prefer smg as its more efffective vs armor and generally if they manage to close to cqc ive already melted they're shields
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
Long Live the Empress
Burn the Heretics
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thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
129
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Posted - 2014.02.23 13:30:00 -
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In would use it if it got a range buff. It was my first proto weapon this build.
I think I'm the only person still waiting for mechs/giant robot killing machines.....
dangCCPyourslowpickupthepace
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Echoist
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
184
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Posted - 2014.02.23 13:41:00 -
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I use it in just about every match unless my squad is going to spend a lot of time indoors. Got level 5 prof. in everything except outfitting which might I max out coming this next patch. It's a very good weapon if you know what you're doing with it and when to engage enemies, in other words you become your squad's own personal portable fire suppression it's also great if used in conjuction with someone else using an armor damaging weapon or sniper.
Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail
STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.
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Green Living
0uter.Heaven
1203
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Posted - 2014.02.23 18:17:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:Green Living wrote:What others are saying. The weapon isn't UP it's just far too situational at the moment. I prefer to play the game and not camp one of the few areas on certain maps that the weapon is viable in. unfortunately because you have to keep your target at the optimum distance I agree that using the LR boils down to nothing but having to camp, usually on the high-ground, which just results in me getting sniped lol.
Yeah, nothing like a bright beam of light to give your position away. Unfortunately that is another negative knock to the weapon. Everyone knows where the LR user is. |
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