DUST Search - The Reason there is alot of QQ about CR and RR

Rinzler XVIII wrote:

Majority of the player base Armor Tanks, CR and RR are super effective v Armor .. CR and RR are new so alot more people are using them = more armor Tankers die = QQ

Because very few people Shield Tank and the SCR is old not as many people use it this means less people are affected by the SCR and therefore = Very little QQ

If shield Tanking gets buffed and becomes popular and more people shield Tank and the SCR gets used more by the player base then because the majority of people are shield Tanking and SCR is OP v shield then that = QQ

Before CCP do any changes I think the playerbase needs to switch out the Tank they use and try using the other Tank eg

if you armor Tank try shield Tanking and see if you still have the same issues, if you shield tank try armor tanking and see if you have the same issues

I'm not saying CR and RR are not OP but at least try changing your Tank and see if you feel the same

The SCR is super OP v shields NERF SCR ... xD joke

Although I will say that the SCR has the exact same issues that the RR does .. too effective in CQC

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

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Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:10:00 - [1] - Quote Majority of the player base Armor Tanks, CR and RR are super effective v Armor .. CR and RR are new so alot more people are using them = more armor Tankers die = QQ Because very few people Shield Tank and the SCR is old not as many people use it this means less people are affected by the SCR and therefore = Very little QQ If shield Tanking gets buffed and becomes popular and more people shield Tank and the SCR gets used more by the player base then because the majority of people are shield Tanking and SCR is OP v shield then that = QQ Before CCP do any changes I think the playerbase needs to switch out the Tank they use and try using the other Tank eg if you armor Tank try shield Tanking and see if you still have the same issues, if you shield tank try armor tanking and see if you have the same issues I'm not saying CR and RR are not OP but at least try changing your Tank and see if you feel the same The SCR is super OP v shields NERF SCR ... xD joke Although I will say that the SCR has the exact same issues that the RR does .. too effective in CQC
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2362	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:13:00 - [2] - Quote The CR and RR do to well outside their intended uses. The RR works to well in CQC and the CR has become the new old AR. The ScR is the old TAR with a "drawback" of overheating and also works to well for CQC. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Vesperz D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 40	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:15:00 - [3] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: The CR and RR do to well outside their intended uses. The RR works to well in CQC and the CR has become the new old AR. The ScR is the old TAR with a "drawback" of overheating and also works to well for CQC. All of this plus kittens! Live by honor, kill by stealth.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1679	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:18:00 - [4] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: The CR and RR do to well outside their intended uses. The RR works to well in CQC and the CR has become the new old AR. The ScR is the old TAR with a "drawback" of overheating and also works to well for CQC. the galente AR is still OP. it still out guns heavies and has better range than the CR. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 29	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:21:00 - [5] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: The CR and RR do to well outside their intended uses. The RR works to well in CQC and the CR has become the new old AR. The ScR is the old TAR with a "drawback" of overheating and also works to well for CQC. I agree completely with your points
Galthur Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 338	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:21:00 - [6] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: The CR and RR do to well outside their intended uses. The RR works to well in CQC and the CR has become the new old AR. The ScR is the old TAR with a "drawback" of overheating and also works to well for CQC. the galente AR is still OP. it still out guns heavies and has better range than the CR. No Get your facts right, all rifles could use a nerf but the AR by far the least. Also CR range is far greater then the AR range. What do you post in the war room when CCP is gone and PC is locked? 14:44 [CCP]Logibro: Not Anime.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 573	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:28:00 - [7] - Quote Yes, having half the EP with negate the +10% bonus the RR has against armor and will save me from it's AR DPS at 100+m. I contribute nothing.
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 298	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:32:00 - [8] - Quote No, they're just both ridiculous. Dont even try to deny it, I'm specced into CR and I think its stupid OP. Corp: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance Aim Assist = Persuers
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2363	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:38:00 - [9] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: The CR and RR do to well outside their intended uses. The RR works to well in CQC and the CR has become the new old AR. The ScR is the old TAR with a "drawback" of overheating and also works to well for CQC. the galente AR is still OP. it still out guns heavies and has better range than the CR. Sorry but the GalAR does not outgun heavies at close range, even though it is meant to be the best close range rifle. A advanced ScR melts through heavies at close range. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 80	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:39:00 - [10] - Quote I personally love my combat rifle, but like the rail rifle, it needs some kind of a nerf. Both of the new rifle types currently outdo almost everything else on the battlefield, with scrambler rifles being one of few competitors, and then, only at closer ranges. I think a range nerf to the combat rifle would bring it in line with the other weapons, and a hipfire/(possible) ROF nerf to the rail rifles would bring them into line, but eh, CCP is nerfing everything, so I guess we can only wait and see what the new FOTM will be. Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.

Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:55:00 - [11] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: No, they're just both ridiculous. Dont even try to deny it, I'm specced into CR and I think its stupid OP. Try reading the thread I never said that they weren't OP
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3238	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:57:00 - [12] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: if you armor Tank try shield Tanking and see if you still have the same issues, if you shield tank try armor tanking and see if you have the same issues I tried the level 1 combat rifle Shield tankers should not die that fast to an anti-armor weapon. Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
Chuckles Brown 110	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:58:00 - [13] - Quote I do shield tank... RRs have no problem eating through shields. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2014.02.21 19:02:00 - [14] - Quote Chuckles Brown wrote: I do shield tank... RRs have no problem eating through shields. When I have 400 + shields the extra time alive is noticeable v an SCR I'm usually dead before I've even processed .. hmm I'm being shot at ..
Onesimus Tarsus 1229	Posted - 2014.02.21 19:04:00 - [15] - Quote I really have lost count on how many times I have had a med or hvy suit totally dead to rights with my GEK or breach, begin pouring heat into them, the shields go and the armor starts to evaporate until it hits 10% or so, then the AUR sensor picks up that I'm not using a RR/CR and the damage simply stops, never to resume. Then, they rotate and kill me. I'm recruiting only the hardest hard-core-rers out there who are in here. cc2.27.13
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 575	Posted - 2014.02.21 19:12:00 - [16] - Quote the RR is op in o most any way you look at it .... Dmg .range .ammo.so on but why cry over the CR? its not a sniper its range is not as good as the AR,s or can it do dmg at the range the AR can still kill at. the CR works well in CQC as it was intended to by CCP and better at CQC then AR as CCP wanted it to be! the AR is a jack of all ranges but ace of none its what you start out with and so no its not better then the CR at CQC but better at range but not as good at range as the RR. so as to why you guys want the CR nerf i can only see that some of you are to skilled in to the AR and dont want to part from it even tho its no longer king of the hill.... trust me its how i fell about my King fits armors awesome. it gives you control where the shield tank can not but yes shields are better at tank on tank if fit all for def . so i get why you guy want the AR to be king again but you got to get over the fact that you cant uses one weapon for all ranges . its why CCP added the CR and RR . Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 427	Posted - 2014.02.21 19:22:00 - [17] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Majority of the player base Armor Tanks, CR and RR are super effective v Armor .. CR and RR are new so alot more people are using them = more armor Tankers die = QQ Because very few people Shield Tank and the SCR is old not as many people use it this means less people are affected by the SCR and therefore = Very little QQ If shield Tanking gets buffed and becomes popular and more people shield Tank and the SCR gets used more by the player base then because the majority of people are shield Tanking and SCR is OP v shield then that = QQ Before CCP do any changes I think the playerbase needs to switch out the Tank they use and try using the other Tank eg if you armor Tank try shield Tanking and see if you still have the same issues, if you shield tank try armor tanking and see if you have the same issues I'm not saying CR and RR are not OP but at least try changing your Tank and see if you feel the same The SCR is super OP v shields NERF SCR ... xD joke Although I will say that the SCR has the exact same issues that the RR does .. too effective in CQC Thank You "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Aisha Ctarl Fatal Absolution 3475	Posted - 2014.02.21 19:40:00 - [18] - Quote I still one shot around 82% of all medium suits I come across with my Viziam and complex damage mods. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3166	Posted - 2014.02.21 19:42:00 - [19] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: The CR and RR do to well outside their intended uses. The RR works to well in CQC and the CR has become the new old AR. The ScR is the old TAR with a "drawback" of overheating and also works to well for CQC. Couldn't agree more. No.
HYENAKILLER X Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 620	Posted - 2014.02.21 19:46:00 - [20] - Quote I dont care what anyone says. Turn off aim assist then tell me the cr is op. The rail rifle is just range. It has an awesome scope. Its almost as good as a militia sniper. The ar is dirty. Slow ia sensitivity down to 12. You are tagging fools 70+ meters out. And omfg the carthum. Tanks are for pussies.

Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 311	Posted - 2014.02.21 19:49:00 - [21] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Majority of the player base Armor Tanks, CR and RR are super effective v Armor .. CR and RR are new so alot more people are using them = more armor Tankers die = QQ Because very few people Shield Tank and the SCR is old not as many people use it this means less people are affected by the SCR and therefore = Very little QQ If shield Tanking gets buffed and becomes popular and more people shield Tank and the SCR gets used more by the player base then because the majority of people are shield Tanking and SCR is OP v shield then that = QQ Before CCP do any changes I think the playerbase needs to switch out the Tank they use and try using the other Tank eg if you armor Tank try shield Tanking and see if you still have the same issues, if you shield tank try armor tanking and see if you have the same issues I'm not saying CR and RR are not OP but at least try changing your Tank and see if you feel the same The SCR is super OP v shields NERF SCR ... xD joke Although I will say that the SCR has the exact same issues that the RR does .. too effective in CQC The reason why there is QQ is this: CR's do 50% more base damage than all the other rifles do. RRs do the same damage as the ARs do, but at double the range. Thats it, it is just that simple.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1679	Posted - 2014.02.21 19:51:00 - [22] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Sorry but the GalAR does not outgun heavies at close range, even though it is meant to be the best close range rifle. A advanced ScR melts through heavies at close range. Only if it's in the hands of a competent Amarr Assault. Or if the Heavy sucks. The RR and CR are overpowered because for some stupid reason, CCP this it's balanced for a gun to have 5% less DPS than the normal AR, but 70% more range. Or higher DPS and higher range, in the case of CR. The ScR would be overpowered if it didn't overheat. I'm not a fan of getting shot by it, but it feels close to balanced against the AR in my book. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3739	Posted - 2014.02.21 20:00:00 - [23] - Quote The op speaks truth!!!! Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!" commando turns around Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
Scheherazade VII 225	Posted - 2014.02.21 20:53:00 - [24] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Majority of the player base Armor Tanks, CR and RR are super effective v Armor .. CR and RR are new so alot more people are using them = more armor Tankers die = QQ Because very few people Shield Tank and the SCR is old not as many people use it this means less people are affected by the SCR and therefore = Very little QQ If shield Tanking gets buffed and becomes popular and more people shield Tank and the SCR gets used more by the player base then because the majority of people are shield Tanking and SCR is OP v shield then that = QQ Before CCP do any changes I think the playerbase needs to switch out the Tank they use and try using the other Tank eg if you armor Tank try shield Tanking and see if you still have the same issues, if you shield tank try armor tanking and see if you have the same issues I'm not saying CR and RR are not OP but at least try changing your Tank and see if you feel the same The SCR is super OP v shields NERF SCR ... xD joke Although I will say that the SCR has the exact same issues that the RR does .. too effective in CQC it's all for nothing when you realise you have shield VS their 3+ damage mods.
Tectonic Fusion 1087	Posted - 2014.02.21 20:55:00 - [25] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: D legendary hero wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: The CR and RR do to well outside their intended uses. The RR works to well in CQC and the CR has become the new old AR. The ScR is the old TAR with a "drawback" of overheating and also works to well for CQC. the galente AR is still OP. it still out guns heavies and has better range than the CR. Sorry but the GalAR does not outgun heavies at close range, even though it is meant to be the best close range rifle. A advanced ScR melts through heavies at close range. Mine must be broken then. It always overheats even if all the shots hit. I use 2 complex damage mods with prof 3 btw. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1125	Posted - 2014.02.21 20:56:00 - [26] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: I dont care what anyone says. Turn off aim assist then tell me the cr is op. The rail rifle is just range. It has an awesome scope. Its almost as good as a militia sniper. The ar is dirty. Slow ia sensitivity down to 12. You are tagging fools 70+ meters out. And omfg the carthum. Still OP. I only use the ADV and STD CRs and I can rip through most people easy-peezy. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 307	Posted - 2014.02.21 20:58:00 - [27] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: I dont care what anyone says. Turn off aim assist then tell me the cr is op. The rail rifle is just range. It has an awesome scope. Its almost as good as a militia sniper. The ar is dirty. Slow ia sensitivity down to 12. You are tagging fools 70+ meters out. And omfg the carthum. I use the CR without AA. Still OP. Corp: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance Aim Assist = Persuers
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1291	Posted - 2014.02.21 21:04:00 - [28] - Quote They do not fit the intended lore for why they exist in the first place. That is all. I knew this idea to put this game on the Playstation was going to ruin the whole concept of EVE. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1679	Posted - 2014.02.21 21:17:00 - [29] - Quote You know, I have to give CR users credit. This may be the first time I've seen a group of players who use an overpowered weapon post honestly about it being overpowered. (Pay attention, Rail Rifle users...) I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2371	Posted - 2014.02.21 21:50:00 - [30] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Sorry but the GalAR does not outgun heavies at close range, even though it is meant to be the best close range rifle. A advanced ScR melts through heavies at close range. Only if it's in the hands of a competent Amarr Assault. Or if the Heavy sucks. The RR and CR are overpowered because for some stupid reason, CCP this it's balanced for a gun to have 5% less DPS than the normal AR, but 70% more range. Or higher DPS and higher range, in the case of CR. The ScR would be overpowered if it didn't overheat. I'm not a fan of getting shot by it, but it feels close to balanced against the AR in my book. I agree,They nerfed the AR then replaced it with the CR. But I disagree on the ScR. The thing is too powerful in CQC. It shouldnt beat a HMG at close range, it has the same issue as the RR. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire



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