DUST Search - Forget modded controllers, what about HD TVs?

Rei Shepard wrote:

TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:

So I just got a new TV today, and got a hdmi cable for my ps3 and wow...

Did CCP just put out a UI overhaul or does the game actually change things around when you are in HD? I figured it would provide a better picture quality but wow... I feel like a blind man who just had lasik eye surgery.

I ask because while the game was loading instead of it being the typical (You are entering a skirmish match and what that is) loading screen, it had a massive list of icons and what they meant, including Light and Heavy dropships, which that's cool didn't know they planned on making those, I knew medium ground are in the works, just not the aerial as they advertised icons.

I also ask because before I was using a 24" standard definition tv. People always spoke of Leader chevrons but at that definition let me tell you, you can't see them. Half the time I couldn't even see players, I just shot under their chevron.

Some examples of how big of a deal a 39" HD TV can cause:

Old TV: Couldn't see anything if it was 60 meters out but little blobs running about.
New TV: I can see the lights of their eyes and see their animations as they run amok at 60 meters.

Old TV: Everyone had 1 chevron over their head.
New TV: What is this 2 chevron crap?! Was this a thing?

Old TV: I aimed Forge guns at the back of tanks to try to hit the weak point and aimed around the chevron to hit drop suits.
New TV: I aim the forge gun at the clear as day weak point boxes now that I can see them and aim a little in front of the now visible drop suits to kill them.

Old TV: CRUs were little diamond symbols and uplinks were what looked like a campfire.
New TV: WAIT WHAT?! CRUs are a symbol of 3 generic people standing side by side and the uplink is a person standing in a star trek beam room?!

Moral of the story, if you haven't, you need to get a decently sized HD TV. I played pay day 2 and didn't see much of a difference other then screen size, but in HD this game adds all sorts of otherwise unseeable particle effects and lighting textures, not too mention being able to see what you are fighting is an extreme advantage.

In general, for every inch your screen is bigger then 24-26" the worse your performance on it will be, even more so if you are a few meters away from it on a couch.

Ive been playing Titanfall in the beta over the weekend on PC and when i got back to dust last night all i could think of were the horrible framerates and movement that felt like i was jogging through sirup or quiksand and i play in 576p deliberately on a 26" screen to improve my FPS on this game.

But for FPS games Big Screen = Worse Playing Performance.


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TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 72	Posted - 2014.02.21 07:41:00 - [1] - Quote So I just got a new TV today, and got a hdmi cable for my ps3 and wow... Did CCP just put out a UI overhaul or does the game actually change things around when you are in HD? I figured it would provide a better picture quality but wow... I feel like a blind man who just had lasik eye surgery. I ask because while the game was loading instead of it being the typical (You are entering a skirmish match and what that is) loading screen, it had a massive list of icons and what they meant, including Light and Heavy dropships, which that's cool didn't know they planned on making those, I knew medium ground are in the works, just not the aerial as they advertised icons. I also ask because before I was using a 24" standard definition tv. People always spoke of Leader chevrons but at that definition let me tell you, you can't see them. Half the time I couldn't even see players, I just shot under their chevron. Some examples of how big of a deal a 39" HD TV can cause: Old TV: Couldn't see anything if it was 60 meters out but little blobs running about. New TV: I can see the lights of their eyes and see their animations as they run amok at 60 meters. Old TV: Everyone had 1 chevron over their head. New TV: What is this 2 chevron crap?! Was this a thing? Old TV: I aimed Forge guns at the back of tanks to try to hit the weak point and aimed around the chevron to hit drop suits. New TV: I aim the forge gun at the clear as day weak point boxes now that I can see them and aim a little in front of the now visible drop suits to kill them. Old TV: CRUs were little diamond symbols and uplinks were what looked like a campfire. New TV: WAIT WHAT?! CRUs are a symbol of 3 generic people standing side by side and the uplink is a person standing in a star trek beam room?! Moral of the story, if you haven't, you need to get a decently sized HD TV. I played pay day 2 and didn't see much of a difference other then screen size, but in HD this game adds all sorts of otherwise unseeable particle effects and lighting textures, not too mention being able to see what you are fighting is an extreme advantage.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 73	Posted - 2014.02.21 07:53:00 - [2] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: In today's world, if you can, its best that you have a HDTV. Yeah I'm starting to realize as I go back and play more of my games that Sony and game devs did offer sd support but they clearly didn't intend it's use. There were so many games where I had to guess at the font or jack the brightness to the max and now it's clear as day.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 73	Posted - 2014.02.21 07:56:00 - [3] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: So I just got a new TV today, and got a hdmi cable for my ps3 and wow... Did CCP just put out a UI overhaul or does the game actually change things around when you are in HD? I figured it would provide a better picture quality but wow... I feel like a blind man who just had lasik eye surgery. I ask because while the game was loading instead of it being the typical (You are entering a skirmish match and what that is) loading screen, it had a massive list of icons and what they meant, including Light and Heavy dropships, which that's cool didn't know they planned on making those, I knew medium ground are in the works, just not the aerial as they advertised icons. I also ask because before I was using a 24" standard definition tv. People always spoke of Leader chevrons but at that definition let me tell you, you can't see them. Half the time I couldn't even see players, I just shot under their chevron. Some examples of how big of a deal a 39" HD TV can cause: Old TV: Couldn't see anything if it was 60 meters out but little blobs running about. New TV: I can see the lights of their eyes and see their animations as they run amok at 60 meters. Old TV: Everyone had 1 chevron over their head. New TV: What is this 2 chevron crap?! Was this a thing? Old TV: I aimed Forge guns at the back of tanks to try to hit the weak point and aimed around the chevron to hit drop suits. New TV: I aim the forge gun at the clear as day weak point boxes now that I can see them and aim a little in front of the now visible drop suits to kill them. Old TV: CRUs were little diamond symbols and uplinks were what looked like a campfire. New TV: WAIT WHAT?! CRUs are a symbol of 3 generic people standing side by side and the uplink is a person standing in a star trek beam room?! Moral of the story, if you haven't, you need to get a decently sized HD TV. I played pay day 2 and didn't see much of a difference other then screen size, but in HD this game adds all sorts of otherwise unseeable particle effects and lighting textures, not too mention being able to see what you are fighting is an extreme advantage. In general, for every inch your screen is bigger then 24-26" the worse your performance on it will be, even more so if you are a few meters away from it on a couch. Ive been playing Titanfall in the beta over the weekend on PC and when i got back to dust last night all i could think of were the horrible framerates and movement that felt like i was jogging through sirup or quiksand and i play in 576p deliberately on a 26" screen to improve my FPS on this game. But for FPS games Big Screen = Worse Playing Performance. If you have eagle eyes I suppose that's true... I've actually heard the opposite that the greater your FOV the better you can perform but often they narrow the FOV on consoles because it can cause feelings of motion sickness for some on a larger television.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 73	Posted - 2014.02.21 08:32:00 - [4] - Quote Also more things I can note that aren't extremely useful or useful at all: The Armor Icon is an Armet helm. The nanohives are a symbol with 3 bullets and the ones that rep armor have a red cross symbol. Sound wise: You can better tell the direction of a vehicle through it's engine noise, though I suppose that could of been just poor sound quality on the old TV.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 76	Posted - 2014.02.21 15:42:00 - [5] - Quote Alternate Insano wrote: I have my ps3 hooked to a 42" Vizio 1080p HDTV with a HDMI cable. Yes, the detail is amazing. Unfortunately, the game was designed to operate at 480p. In order to play at all I have had to nerf my PS3 by dropping the output res in the system settings to 480, then set the textures to medium under game options. Before I did this 75 % of my hits wouldn't actually register, or I would kill mercs nowhere near where I was aiming. Since this 'fix' I figure this only happens a third of the time now. Has anyone else done this? I have no idea what would be causing that. Mine is a vizio 39" LED and it plays just fine in 720p. Haven't tried 1080p but honestly felt there wasn't a point since everything is pretty clear now. There is definitely an issue with an increasingly larger screen along the same lines as you pretty much miss all the negative space in a movie theater as your eyes can't analyze the whole screen, but personally I don't have that issue at 39" as my peripherals can pick up movement which is all they need to do, that and notice chevrons. I haven't had any off the mark kills though or had any lower frame rate issues, at least not anymore than when the servers crap out and everyone starts teleporting, (Confirmed with other squadmates.) Maybe your ps3/internet is having issues keeping up? Everything breaks down/can underperform.