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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 02:57:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Croned wrote:According to EVE Vegas and a quick FW 2.0 release, the player market and PC 2.0 are coming soon. I'd even estimate that the player market will be here in either 1.8 or 1.9. ah but my question is what if it isn't soon but instead soom tm, would you be willing to wait another year but for sure next time that it would be revealed at fan fest?
IF CCP could show and give us confidence that they could Out perform expectations with said extra time sure.
Having something so polished with 10 amazing balanced things not even conceived by the player base.. with the feature.
Every single Addition or change CCP has done in Uprising has been massively under delivered on or extreme unbalanced fundamental game changes..
Basically if CCP did one thing they said they where gonna do they would be men of their words. As it is right now they are that kid at highschool that Lies about everything.
the only grace they have is their Big brother CCP Rouge showed up Mid semester and is vouching for them now. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:41:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:da GAND wrote:Logi Stician wrote:Philipp Achtel wrote:da GAND wrote:Now this is a question mainly for those that support CCP and believe that they can succeed.
What if at fan fest there is no PVE, no open world, no player market, no boarding titans, and many other things that are suppose to make this game unique? Say none of this came many months later after fan fest, but instead a few modes replacing the current ones but still PVP , new vehicles, and the rest of the other races MCC's.
Would you be willing to wait until fan fest of 2015 not knowing for sure what would be revealed there? But you know that PVE is close as it ever has been or the player market at least? No. There's a lot of great games coming out soon. CCP needs to recapture my imagination. Agreed. In September, another sci-fi FPS RPG-style game that starts with a D comes out and its developers eat, sleep and poop their game, tweaking it for release and a very long life. Dust is fun for what it is right now, which sadly is a place holder until this mystery game comes out. I love Logi-ing, but if there isn't going to be any additional content, I'm going to have to go get my FPS/healer fix somewheres else. And heck, I won't even delete/biomass. If the game does end up getting better in a year or so after I leave, I should have a nice fat chunk of SP to mess around with. Strange I also am looking forward to a certain game being released in September that also starts with a D. I also won't be deleting my character just in case this game lives and succeeds on after I get bored of Destiny if I do. agreed . also The Witcher 3, Borderlands 3, blaclight k , metal gear, diablo 3, dark souls, fallout 4, hey dust!...hey DUST!....sit!......sit! yo ass DOWN!.....its BENCH TIME!!
Fallout 4 is probably not coming until 2016. Check out Bethesda development schedule for games being released ... They make most studio's look lazy for the next two years...
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:55:00 -
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da GAND wrote:@Bethhy oh man I was hoping for it to be released this year or next year at the least.
Yah they started development of Fallout 4 in 2010 almost directly after fallout 3 release.
Most game critics and reviewers are Touting Fallout 4 to be the biggest most detailed game of this generation, under those guidelines i could see it taking a while. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:19:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:
Balance is something this game has always struggled with. and I don't see that struggle ending any time soon. Honestly, If we don't get a SOLID timeline at fanfest, I'm going to be severely disappointed, and possibly give this game another lengthy break. I grow weary of this being a game with "potential". There is SO much potential, but it seems like this game is running on a skeleton crew. I'd be interested to know just how many people are actually on the devoted DUST team. Especially artists. .
They try and balance to many issues and some of them vastly out dated ones at once. Shield Stacking penalty when shields already sucked for example... buffing armor and nerfing shields with a penalty for stacking(50% less Health then armor per module wasn't enough? at least at that point?) Buffing Vehicles while Nerfing the AV and double Nerfing the Forge gun.
It's the double buffing of things caused by trying to do too many balance changes in one patch.. They need a hotfix developer team to address the Balance issues incrementally otherwise the pendulum for balance will always drastically swing to either side. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:31:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:if that WoD MMO ever comes out, I'll buy into that. CCP fangirl over here. no denying it And White Wolf Publishing And Black Onyx Publishing
What about the like 300-600 bux the Occulus rift + Valkyrie are possibly going to be?
Sadly to much disposable income and to much history with CCP for me to not lol..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmbngpJK3PY <---- Occulus Rift - Eve Valkyrie . Virtual Reality. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 14:55:00 -
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da GAND wrote:@Alaika Arbosa I see what you mean and ya it wouldn't be hard for CCP to see it hard that way, it would be nice and some trees would be nice lol. Booker really wants some trees , I would like to fight in a city or in a forest or jungle.
How about an actual Alien planet? because we have planets with dirt and rocks... Some new grass ? >.>
This shows the passion in DUST right now.... Where an art and game designers.. had 10 thousand planets and potentially all kinds of environments you could make, then...
Would you just go outside take a picture of a mountain and try and copy that with some rocks and hills and call it an "Alien" planet?
The fact that we don't have a singular foreign map entitiy and use of imagination on these distant planets, no giant Mushrooms?... Not even some weird Plants....
The entire alien feel DUST relies on is some cloudy DUST rushing by your screen..
Even the Attempt at a Snow map... CCP is from Iceland.. Where are the giant clear blue glaciers? chuncks of ice? Frozen lake? Snow effects? Would of been 1000x better then a volcano?
The passion in creating alien worlds for most Artists into Sci-FI is something they do as a hobby... CCP can't get people to do it as their main job. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:12:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:I've already started to move away from this "game".I just got a new video card for my PC,and I'm able to run a lot of the games that I have a lot better than I could just a few weeks ago.So from an economical standpoint,I'll be playing more PC games to get my money's worth right now.
Also,I'll more than likely be picking up a PS4 within the next few weeks as March is the month that we finally start to see some killer apps on it,MGSV and iNFamous:Second Son are two games that I'm very much looking forward to,and quite frankly,Dust won't be able to do anything to get my attention away from either of those games.
As far as FanFest goes,I just expect more empty promises,which will get them nowhere this time.There's always going to be those people that keep hanging on to this vaporware because of their optimism,but I'm fresh out and I'm just not buying the rotten bill of goods that CCP is selling anymore.
I guess in the long run,the only thing that will keep me really interested in Dust over the next year is MASSIVE improvements,both technical,like a higher framerate and less lag,and content like new maps,gear,game modes,and a player market.since none of those things are coming anytime soon,this game is way on the back burner for me.
Also,something that most people overlook about the failure both current and future,is how is CCP going to get more gamers interested and playing this game? This is supposed to be an MMO,but that's a misnomer as it's just an MO.There's absolutely nothing massive about this game,and that alone will be the ultimate failure of Dust,and the reason why most people will continue to feel that as a whole,the game is irrelevant.
I think the only real thing that make this different that any other shooter right now is that it has a passive SP gain.That alone keeps people at least interested and optimistic about the growth of their character.If Destiny or The Division wise up and add a passive XP gain system in their game,this game will be dead. I couldn't stick with the game anymore after 1.5 , sure the squad finder was neat but it was still the same lobby shooter. Came back after 1.7's release and not a surprise that it's still the same lobby shooter. It was good to play with people that I didn't talk to since I took that break. But the game was still the same, I like the new rifles but that's it really. As of right now it's just an FPS, no MMO side to it at all. I don't see how people use the SP as an excuse to log in, the passive SP is just fine with me. I stopped playing about a week ago, I won't be back until 1.8 IF it's even worth it. I don't care about new suits, it's just another way to play the same modes we've been stuck with. And if it's just new dropsuits then I'll wait until fanfest/hypefest, and if there is nothing there then I know that I have nothing to worry about. Destiny looks like a pretty good MMO-FPS.
Until this game can get it's Frame rates, Latency, Rubber Banding, Server/Cleint Updating.. Aim Mechanics... Terrain and Collision Mechanics... in check...
It's a game that can't even run stable... Facilitate competitive play in DUST is even near impossible now with the lag and frame rates...
This game as it is right now can't even Perform to basic Videogame standards for the Average user.
Without even a hint or a whisper that CCP is trying to optimize it... Or proof that they have improved it at all.... In a year..
If DUST 514 can't even operate at ps3 console standards.... It's just a lot of fluff that is marketed well packaged into a broken game.
However sad that revelation is... It's the current state of DUST. A Laggy Glitchy, Crashing, 10 FPS, Unbalanced Lobby shooter. on the ps3.
Sadface.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.26 02:12:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Gauder Berwyck wrote:I was a supporter of CCP for Dust. Stopped around a year ago. Dust got me to play EVE tho, and I must admit, I kinda liked EVE... Same here, I was playing Dust and EVE at the same time for awhile but I was more focused on Dust and I barely accomplished anything with the little amount of time I spent on EVE so I just cancelled my sub and stayed focused on Dust.
Nothing in EVE is done quick... One of the best things about the game...
I have a friend I started playing EVE with 9 and a half years ago, when he was just a teen. He's been married had two kids and now plays EVE with his 8 year old son every night...
It's one of those games that will be there for you to continue and grow on for years... Not one of those games you spend a couple weeks maxing out your character to beat the game and move on.
it seems to be the factor that attracts or repels people from the title.
Seems to attract some pretty hardcore PC gamers though |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:45:00 -
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Katya Thurn wrote:da GAND wrote:Now this is a question mainly for those that support CCP and believe that they can succeed.
What if at fan fest there is no PVE, no open world, no player market, no boarding titans, and many other things that are suppose to make this game unique? Say none of this came many months later after fan fest, but instead a few modes replacing the current ones but still PVP , new vehicles, and the rest of the other races MCC's.
Would you be willing to wait until fan fest of 2015 not knowing for sure what would be revealed there? But you know that PVE is close as it ever has been or the player market at least? You won't see anything along the lines of boarding titans at Fanfest 2014. I don't think you will see anything connected with the player market or industry either. That part of the game is borked and will take a lot of careful thinking to work out. I expect there will be something new released at Fanfest 2014 though. I'd imagine some kind of PvE might be released or if they want to make a big show they will release the War Barge to further connect EVE Online to DUST 514.
It doesn't even have to be boarding titans... It could be a Capture the flag game mode fought on the Inside of a titan for a map...
get some of the maps worked out and the basic infrastructure in place to add to the boarding game mode... later..
Map designs of the inside of a Titan would be enough at fanfest to get almost every EVE player passionate about titans to find a way to log on DUST and experience that.
if the player market or at the very least Player trading...isn't attempted by Summer this year, if the PS4 or future hardware platforms aren't even brought up in future plans for DUST 514.. By the time September Destiny launch comes... This game will have such a massive death rattle in population it will be hard pressed to think it would continue.. |
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