DUST Search - Well, this is disturbing to say the least

Skihids wrote:

No doubt the numbers themselves are accurate, but you need to be careful about the interpretation. I'm sure their economists could explain it to them, but I'll give it a shot here:

The BPO "ISK loss' is just as real as the Recording Industry's estimate of losses due to illegal downloading. In this case it would be limited to the back catalog of "B" artists as the BPOs are all low level gear. A huge amount of the downloads would never have been purchased, and it's the same way with the equipment. A good deal of usage is just to fill a slot that would otherwise go empty if I had to pay for it. Or it goes on a suit that I'll use when I'm going up against a redline situation. Or it replaces a starter fit. Or it simply keeps me in the game instead of standing around in the back waiting for the match to end.

The PC ISK is equivalent to opening the till and handing out cash to their friends to buy the latest albums.

One loss is theoretical and the other real (at least as real as a virtual loss can be).


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John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2049	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:52:00 - [1] - Quote 1) The point about people using starter fits instead of BPO's is a good one. With the low TTK and all the damn tanks it's inevitable this would happen. 2) The low payouts aren't some kind of conspiracy, get the tinfoil hats off. It's directly related to the lower cost of vehicles and people running cheaper gear (i.e., the BPOs or starter fits). ISK destroyed = ISK payout. 3) While it may be economy-breaking, I still have a hard time concluding it's AS economy-breaking as all the PC money, because of the existance of starter fits and the massive wealth disparity PC creates. The cost of officer weapons, for example, will be primarily driven by those PC funds, not the pittance 90% of the people running BPO's make. 4) Easy solution, as has been mentioned innumerable times, is manufacturing. You either pay some ISK (a small fraction of the true cost of the item) or use resources collected in salvage to create the items the BPO's are of. No need to take them away and enrage the torch-and-pitchfork-wielding masses, gives a little extra metagame, less economy-breaking, etc. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2077	Posted - 2014.02.21 16:23:00 - [2] - Quote Skihids wrote: No doubt the numbers themselves are accurate, but you need to be careful about the interpretation. I'm sure their economists could explain it to them, but I'll give it a shot here: The BPO "ISK loss' is just as real as the Recording Industry's estimate of losses due to illegal downloading. In this case it would be limited to the back catalog of "B" artists as the BPOs are all low level gear. A huge amount of the downloads would never have been purchased, and it's the same way with the equipment. A good deal of usage is just to fill a slot that would otherwise go empty if I had to pay for it. Or it goes on a suit that I'll use when I'm going up against a redline situation. Or it replaces a starter fit. Or it simply keeps me in the game instead of standing around in the back waiting for the match to end. The PC ISK is equivalent to opening the till and handing out cash to their friends to buy the latest albums. One loss is theoretical and the other real (at least as real as a virtual loss can be). Great analysis. +1. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!