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GRIMSNIPER69
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.19 09:24:00 -
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ccp you need to fix this its a sad excuse for a tactic and you shouldnt be able to ram a dropsip with another and cause that much damage, some damage yes but to ohk you dropship thats bs especially at the price they are. And while i have you attention get ridof the friendly fire force from the rail guns to blue dropship and the overall frendly collision damage that is op to the tenth power.
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
709
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Posted - 2014.02.19 09:26:00 -
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Fun Fact - Incubus with hardeners going can survive a ram.
Python on the other hand cannot (At least my fits never do)
So lets see - 500k ish ADS can be smashed with easy by cheap ass militia dropship. Not fair :( As if DS pilots dont have enough to deal with as it is.
Tbh CCP I would love you guys to reinspect collision damage all around and reduce it. Both for dropships and LAV`s too. |
Horizen Kenpachi
Kenpachi's Castle
193
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Posted - 2014.02.19 09:39:00 -
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I agree was out gunning an incubus in a viper he flew away then hardners on rammed me dead it kills dog fights
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
565
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:01:00 -
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Horizen Kenpachi wrote:I agree was out gunning an incubus in a viper he flew away then hardners on rammed me dead it kills dog fights
I don't think that ruins dogfights, I think it makes it a bit more interesting. Being able to "take them down with me" is a viable thing. Heck, it worked for the Executor-class Star Destroyer!
What I would like to see is a change to HAV on HAV collisions. Rolling out and creating a roadblock ambush for a HAV on HAV fight should act as just that - a roadblock. They shouldn't be able to just drive over you (or more ridiculusly, drive underneath you). We had tank ramming in WW2, and did the T-34s just roll up and over the Tigers? No, they smashed into them and rendered both inoperable. Russia could just far out produce Germany.
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darkiller240
WarRavens
League of Infamy
420
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:04:00 -
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I had an LAV Touch my ADS and i imploded
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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axu jen
The Phoenix Federation
Proficiency V.
1
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:05:00 -
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I agree, the whole dropship collision thing is OP.
If you even scratch the wrong side of the DS the whole thing goes into flames.
Also friendly rails being able to knock dropships is bs, needs to be fixed asap. |
Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
181
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:07:00 -
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My Python tapped the roof of a building and exploded... So yeah collision damage has been broken for a long time. Especially for Shields.
"War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left."
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
453
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:10:00 -
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Ronan Elsword wrote:My Python tapped the roof of a building and exploded... So yeah collision damage has been broken for a long time. Especially for Shields.
Even though shields protect against that better than armor...............
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
565
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:11:00 -
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Ronan Elsword wrote:My Python tapped the roof of a building and exploded... So yeah collision damage has been broken for a long time. Especially for Shields.
That seems to be highly situational, maybe depending on what hits where, because I've seen dropships collide with a building, both nose-to-wall and full sideswipes, and then fly off with maybe an ADV swarm's worth of damage. And that was both hardened and unhardened DS.
Must be some wonky calculations server-side.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
179
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:16:00 -
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GRIMSNIPER69 wrote:ccp you need to fix this its a sad excuse for a tactic and you shouldnt be able to ram a dropsip with another and cause that much damage, some damage yes but to ohk you dropship thats bs especially at the price they are. And while i have you attention get ridof the friendly fire force from the rail guns to blue dropship and the overall frendly collision damage that is op to the tenth power.
Wait your telling me i can make a jehad dropship and take you guys out.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
453
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:17:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:GRIMSNIPER69 wrote:ccp you need to fix this its a sad excuse for a tactic and you shouldnt be able to ram a dropsip with another and cause that much damage, some damage yes but to ohk you dropship thats bs especially at the price they are. And while i have you attention get ridof the friendly fire force from the rail guns to blue dropship and the overall frendly collision damage that is op to the tenth power. Wait your telling me i can make a jehad dropship and take you guys out.
I swear I will repot you for exploiting if you do.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2342
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:35:00 -
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I usually ram by mistake.
Why?
I drink and fly.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
140
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Posted - 2014.02.19 12:54:00 -
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mad bro
and btw F*vk you batering ram s one of my only tactics aainst igh flying ads
and f you can gun my scrubby a$$ down b 4 i get your arse then you deserve to hve your ds eaten by me
if you donet want me to ram you
1)dont b a prick
2)stay in rangeof my Forge
3) dont pilot expensive DS's
and ps the bateriing ram tactic is the oldest form of ship to ship combat
we just do it in the sky now
QQ elswhere butthurt scrub\and i only hope my horrid spelling irritates you further
Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden.
KAMEHAMEHA
professional Heavy for hire
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axu jen
The Phoenix Federation
Proficiency V.
2
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:05:00 -
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Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote:
1)dont b a prick
As in don't shoot me.
Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote:
2)stay in rangeof my Forge
As in let me shoot you whenever i want.
Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote:3) dont pilot expensive DS's
As in don't play the game.
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Nikoli Gleimer
The Comet Republic
5
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:09:00 -
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Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: mad bro and btw F*vk you batering ram s one of my only tactics aainst igh flying ads and f you can gun my scrubby a$$ down b 4 i get your arse then you deserve to hve your ds eaten by me if you donet want me to ram you 1)dont b a prick 2)stay in rangeof my Forge 3) dont pilot expensive DS's and ps the bateriing ram tactic is the oldest form of ship to ship combat we just do it in the sky now QQ elswhere butthurt scrub\and i only hope my horrid spelling irritates you further
You make me seriously sad. Dropships have enough to worry about. We also dont need people like you, who dont know the ifrst thing about dropships telling us that if we dont get close enough to your forge gun you will get in your own cheap miltia dropship and ram us.
Why do you think we are up there? Probably because there are about 3 redline railtanks trying to shoot us down the moment we come down from max ceiling.
Also if we are at max ceiling(or out of range of your forge gun) we will not be able to hit you with our missile launchers. So whats the big deal? We can't hurt you, and you cant hurt us. Believe me, its not fun for us dropships pilots when we are hiding at max ceiling, and the second we peek down at the fight there are railgun shots zooming past our heads.
People like you irritate me beyond beleif. You can't play the game right, and when people are actually having a serious descussion about something, you chime in before you know what your talking about.
Also, when you said that we should not be running such expensive fits, what could you have possibly meant by that. You could fit all miltia modules on the dropship and it will still be over 300k. How are we supposed to make that cheap? Especially when there are scrubs like you that if we kill us once with your precious heavy suit, you are going to ram us in your viper......pathetic
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
592
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:21:00 -
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GRIMSNIPER69 wrote:ccp you need to fix this its a sad excuse for a tactic and you shouldnt be able to ram a dropsip with another and cause that much damage, some damage yes but to ohk you dropship thats bs especially at the price they are. And while i have you attention get ridof the friendly fire force from the rail guns to blue dropship and the overall frendly collision damage that is op to the tenth power.
*Rams with dropship*
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
592
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:22:00 -
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Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote:
And PS. the battering ram tactic is the oldest form of ship to ship combat
we just do it in the sky now.
This
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
140
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:22:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:GRIMSNIPER69 wrote:ccp you need to fix this its a sad excuse for a tactic and you shouldnt be able to ram a dropsip with another and cause that much damage, some damage yes but to ohk you dropship thats bs especially at the price they are. And while i have you attention get ridof the friendly fire force from the rail guns to blue dropship and the overall frendly collision damage that is op to the tenth power. Wait your telling me i can make a jehad dropship and take you guys out. I swear I will repot you for exploiting if you do.
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Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden.
KAMEHAMEHA
professional Heavy for hire
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1914
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:30:00 -
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Dropships physics suck. I can survive a rail gun but if I touch a wall I instantly die...
For the Federation!
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Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
23
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:36:00 -
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as an ads pilot, I can say if you get hit by someone flying a Gorgon, you've failed, the ads is much faster even without an afterburner going... Also if you're a better pilot you will be able to swap to a tankier dropship and ram them right back, heck sometimes I just put my hardener up and let them hit me... Bye bye enemy dropship.
I'll admit friendly fire ramming and **** is annoying though removing the damage all together would remove the need to fly safe, there should at least be a report/ban for public matches as well. |
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Syeven Reed
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
403
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:39:00 -
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But.... But its funny to watch!
Gÿé Syeven 514
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2865
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:42:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Dropships physics suck. I can survive a rail gun but if I touch a wall I instantly die...
CCP still has several thousand gallons of explosive paint that they need to use up. CCP Blam! ordered it a few builds ago and they've been using it to coat dropships ever since. |
Vag Eye Lenol
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.02.19 16:59:00 -
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Yeah if you aren't skilled enough to watch traffic then I suggest not to fly. Cause I will smash you from behind... |
Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
Zero-Day
902
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:04:00 -
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When I see someone trying to ram my Python, I just dodge until both hardeners are up. Pop both, afterburner, ram them, double hardened shields wins every time. I've smashed into the ground going full speed with double hardeners just to test it, and I didn't die. |
Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
171
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:08:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:GRIMSNIPER69 wrote:ccp you need to fix this its a sad excuse for a tactic and you shouldnt be able to ram a dropsip with another and cause that much damage, some damage yes but to ohk you dropship thats bs especially at the price they are. And while i have you attention get ridof the friendly fire force from the rail guns to blue dropship and the overall frendly collision damage that is op to the tenth power. Wait your telling me i can make a jehad dropship and take you guys out. I swear I will repot you for exploiting if you do.
LMAO LOL
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
171
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:12:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:GRIMSNIPER69 wrote:ccp you need to fix this its a sad excuse for a tactic and you shouldnt be able to ram a dropsip with another and cause that much damage, some damage yes but to ohk you dropship thats bs especially at the price they are. And while i have you attention get ridof the friendly fire force from the rail guns to blue dropship and the overall frendly collision damage that is op to the tenth power. Wait your telling me i can make a jehad dropship and take you guys out. I swear I will repot you for exploiting if you do.
LMAO LOL is this guy serious. You'll report him 
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2230
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:26:00 -
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Working as intended so no. Its basically the jihad jeep variant for derpships.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
PAND3M0N1UM
Lokun Listamenn
173
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:30:00 -
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Like collison damage, hate the magnitude.
Maybe if an enemy pilot could get two or three rams in before either one of us explode that would be fine, and require more skill than a single nooby swoop.
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Seigfried Warheit
Caught Me With My Pants Down
219
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:52:00 -
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I remember you from FW yesterday that was me who did the ramming ...on my defense I rammed you rather tactically with my slow ass gorgon as you werent paying attention above you I rammed you from the top of the dropship as so to get more damage since when you were going higher you were ramming me back.. so you were playing chicken with me without noticing even if you were to survive the collision you were sent flying into the ground into those generators or scraped against the building close to you since you were hovering pretty low near them and pretty close. |
Sir Snugglz
Red Star.
EoN.
425
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:04:00 -
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Fun fact
My un hardened derpship can survive the ramming of a hardened incubus.
My derpship also knows how to survive the love tap of an rdv.
Come up bro! If I don't shoot u down before you get close I'll laugh as ur ship falls in flames why I continue to hover about after ur failed ram attempt.
-Luck is just one of my skills
Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
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