DUST Search - Petition: Keep proposed Minmatar Assault Bonus

Drapedup Drippedout wrote:

TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:

Drapedup Drippedout wrote:

TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks the minmitar assault bonus should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? They gave us the lowest ehp of the medium suits with more stamina and a little more speed.

The amarr has the most stamina of medium frames, min is the fastest. The min assault is a hit/run assault not really a scout role. We don't have the cpu/pg to do anything "scouty"

You're right my mistake that was the wrong word to use:

the hybrid LIGHT/assault suit. Is that more fitting for what I meant to imply as a hit and run suit? It still stands that a larger clip to mag dump longer isn't a logical bonus for a hit and run suit.

Edit: Also it doesn't matter if the amarr has the most stamina, speed is a factor in hit and run which is not what an amarr assault suit is designed for. I guess to extrapolate sustained fire bonuses do not make sense on a hit and run suit.

I disagree. I'm at 28mil SP with 1 proto suit since 7mil, the MIn assault. If the clip size buff applies to Minmatar weaponry, then yes it is a HUGE advantage. Ever use the Six Kin ACR? 15-18 more bullets is about .2 secs worth of trigger pull. The boundless CR, you can dip in and out of cover/engage multiple enemies without reloading. About 2.5 secs to reload, is 2.5 secs you should've been sprinting/flanking/dipping/ducking/dodging/diving.

Stamina has nothing to do with hit and run, amarr has the most stamina because they are the slowest. I guess I'm wondering, are you standing still while you empty that clip? or do you suffer from the "gotta reload after every engagement" syndrome that plagues FPS's?


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TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 64	Posted - 2014.02.19 09:30:00 - [1] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: So if like me you have heard theynare planning on doing yet another attempt on Assault Skill bonuses, but a lot of people have been complaining about the suggested Minmatar bonus to weapon clip size. (Both Projectile and Explosive) Mainly people claiming it will suddenly make weapons OP. I for one disbelieve this and vehemently want this bonus kept. It's down right unfair that Amarrians should get a bonus to their weaponn that can directly effect it's DPS and maintain a longer engagement time, with which you are not really supposed to do that with. Yet Min, atar with the same bonus gets reppelled by them. Join together Minmatar brothers and sisters show them we will not be toyed with. Please Sign and Ill add your name to the list. In Rust we Trust Signed: Monkey MAC Broonfondle Majikthies Delanus Turgias If that's all they do to change Minmatar assault it won't matter, it won't matter if we can fire 11 shots from a mass driver or 80 from a combat rifle or whatever if we can't live long enough to mag dump. We need something light suit oriented as we are the light and medium suit hybrid like more stamina, sprinting, or lower scan profile. Obviously nothing as good as a scout but something that would follow the logic of our hybrid nature.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:06:00 - [2] - Quote Am I the only one who thinks the minmitar assault bonus should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? They gave us the lowest ehp of the medium suits with more stamina and a little more speed.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:19:00 - [3] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Am I the only one who thinks the minmitar assault bonus should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? They gave us the lowest ehp of the medium suits with more stamina and a little more speed. ?? That sentence makes little sense, try again please? I don't know what is wrong with the sentence... is this a french forum? Did I post in the wrong place?
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:33:00 - [4] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Am I the only one who thinks the minmitar assault bonus should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? They gave us the lowest ehp of the medium suits with more stamina and a little more speed. ?? That sentence makes little sense, try again please? I don't know what is wrong with the sentence... is this a french forum? Did I post in the wrong place? Ok, umm, what do you think the bonus should be then? because all I saw was should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? Right i'll break it down: "Am I", a reference to myself, "the only one who thinks", a reference to my thinking process "the minmitar assault bonus", the topic of the thread "should be what the minmitar assault's" a reference to the dropsuit. (Yes I missed a typo on the apostrophe but you started a sentence with two punctuation marks so grammar clearly isn't a concern.) "role," as in what the suit is designed to be that other suits aren't "is as a hybrid scout/assualt" as in a definition of the role. (See sentence two for why I define it as the hybrid of an assault and scout suit.) Is that better, do we need to use pictures and what not or can you do some book readin' cowboy? The suggested bonus I had was something like a bonus to stamina, sprinting, or a lower scan profile. Like I said before it doesn't matter if your Mass Driver can fire 11 times without reloading if your ehp lets you fire 4 times before dying. Please don't tell me I need to break down these sentences too.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:35:00 - [5] - Quote Drapedup Drippedout wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Am I the only one who thinks the minmitar assault bonus should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? They gave us the lowest ehp of the medium suits with more stamina and a little more speed. The amarr has the most stamina of medium frames, min is the fastest. The min assault is a hit/run assault not really a scout role. We don't have the cpu/pg to do anything "scouty" Your right my mistake that was the wrong word to use: the hybrid LIGHT/assault suit. Is that more fitting for what I meant to imply as a hit and run suit? It still stands that a larger clip to mag dump longer isn't a logical bonus for a hit and run suit. Edit: Also it doesn't matter if the amarr has the most stamina, speed is a factor in hit and run which is not what an amarr assault suit is designed for.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:53:00 - [6] - Quote Drapedup Drippedout wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Drapedup Drippedout wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Am I the only one who thinks the minmitar assault bonus should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? They gave us the lowest ehp of the medium suits with more stamina and a little more speed. The amarr has the most stamina of medium frames, min is the fastest. The min assault is a hit/run assault not really a scout role. We don't have the cpu/pg to do anything "scouty" You're right my mistake that was the wrong word to use: the hybrid LIGHT/assault suit. Is that more fitting for what I meant to imply as a hit and run suit? It still stands that a larger clip to mag dump longer isn't a logical bonus for a hit and run suit. Edit: Also it doesn't matter if the amarr has the most stamina, speed is a factor in hit and run which is not what an amarr assault suit is designed for. I guess to extrapolate sustained fire bonuses do not make sense on a hit and run suit. I disagree. I'm at 28mil SP with 1 proto suit since 7mil, the MIn assault. If the clip size buff applies to Minmatar weaponry, then yes it is a HUGE advantage. Ever use the Six Kin ACR? 15-18 more bullets is about .2 secs worth of trigger pull. The boundless CR, you can dip in and out of cover/engage multiple enemies without reloading. About 2.5 secs to reload, is 2.5 secs you should've been sprinting/flanking/dipping/ducking/dodging/diving. Stamina has nothing to do with hit and run, amarr has the most stamina because they are the slowest. I guess I'm wondering, are you standing still while you empty that clip? or do you suffer from the "gotta reload after every engagement" syndrome that plagues FPS's? Getting a bonus to a very specific playstyle to fit your specific suit loadout isn't a good bonus. The bonus should address our role, not your six kin. That's bad game design, you should feel bad for promoting CCP's already poor balancing habits by suggesting such things. Also, are we playing the same game? You can't sprint while firing and bunny hopping in an amarr suit.... yeah you do that. Edit: Also saying you have 28 mil SP doesn't help at all. Why? Look at this game, it was definitely not beta tested well at all or they listened to bad suggestions like your six kin argument, so don't break your hand off patting yourself on the back there.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2014.02.19 13:03:00 - [7] - Quote Drapedup Drippedout wrote: ....seriously? The Combat Rifle is the minmatar rifle. So WTF are you talking about? /thread over as you obviously have no idea whats going on here. Because a suit bonus should be based around one weapon that belongs to said racial! That's wtf I am talking about. You are suggesting that one weapon should dictate a suits bonus, you are bad and should feel bad. Like I said, thanks for beta testing this game.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2014.02.19 13:17:00 - [8] - Quote Drapedup Drippedout wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Drapedup Drippedout wrote: ....seriously? The Combat Rifle is the minmatar rifle. So WTF are you talking about? /thread over as you obviously have no idea whats going on here. Because a suit bonus should be based around one weapon that belongs to said racial! That's wtf I am talking about. You are suggesting that one weapon should dictate a suits bonus, you are bad and should feel bad. Like I said, thanks for beta testing this game. HAHA! Go reread the proposed bonuses from my original response. Then realize you can't read/comprehend. Then apologize for being a douche, and stop crying on the forums because you have no idea what you're talking about. PS - this is my last response. Please stop poisoning the forums with your stupidity and ignorance. Read more, opine less. Assault bonus: 2% dmg to Racial weaponry per level Cal: (Increase RR charge to .35/.4) reduction in charge 5% Amarr: 5% lasers weap build up Gal: 3% Range of plasma weap Minmatar: 2% RoF increase to min weaponry/+5% weaponry clip size (pick one) I assume this is what you mean, well let's see: reduction in charge up on caldari after increasing it! Brilliant how did CCP end up in endless buff/nerf cycles... oh thank you for beta testing, they learned it from you! Amarr laser weapon build up, guessing you mean heat reduction, which is what is being recommended by pretty much everyone so good job on agreeing with everyone. Gal 3% range of plasma weapons, yeah let's give all the CQC guns greater range that makes sense! Yes I know the plasma rifle is garbage right now, but again making half assed improvements to weaponry that don't fit their playstyle, CCP learned that from you! Thank you for beta testing. Minmitar ROF increase or a weaponry clip size, seriously why do you have such a hard on for the CR?? Thank you for beta testing! If you are representative of the average beta tester for this game, well now I feel bad for mocking CCP all the time. It really wasn't their fault, they just had awful testers that they listened to.