DUST Search - Petition: Keep proposed Minmatar Assault Bonus

TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:

Drapedup Drippedout wrote:

TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:

Drapedup Drippedout wrote:

TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks the minmitar assault bonus should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? They gave us the lowest ehp of the medium suits with more stamina and a little more speed.

The amarr has the most stamina of medium frames, min is the fastest. The min assault is a hit/run assault not really a scout role. We don't have the cpu/pg to do anything "scouty"

You're right my mistake that was the wrong word to use:

the hybrid LIGHT/assault suit. Is that more fitting for what I meant to imply as a hit and run suit? It still stands that a larger clip to mag dump longer isn't a logical bonus for a hit and run suit.

Edit: Also it doesn't matter if the amarr has the most stamina, speed is a factor in hit and run which is not what an amarr assault suit is designed for. I guess to extrapolate sustained fire bonuses do not make sense on a hit and run suit.

I disagree. I'm at 28mil SP with 1 proto suit since 7mil, the MIn assault. If the clip size buff applies to Minmatar weaponry, then yes it is a HUGE advantage. Ever use the Six Kin ACR? 15-18 more bullets is about .2 secs worth of trigger pull. The boundless CR, you can dip in and out of cover/engage multiple enemies without reloading. About 2.5 secs to reload, is 2.5 secs you should've been sprinting/flanking/dipping/ducking/dodging/diving.

Stamina has nothing to do with hit and run, amarr has the most stamina because they are the slowest. I guess I'm wondering, are you standing still while you empty that clip? or do you suffer from the "gotta reload after every engagement" syndrome that plagues FPS's?

Getting a bonus to a very specific playstyle to fit your specific suit loadout isn't a good bonus. The bonus should address our role, not your six kin. That's bad game design, you should feel bad for promoting CCP's already poor balancing habits by suggesting such things. Also, are we playing the same game? You can't sprint while firing and bunny hoping in an amarr suit.... yeah you do that.

Edit: Also saying you have 28 mil SP doesn't help at all. Why? Look at this game, it was definitely not beta tested well at all or they listened to bad suggestions like your six kin argument, so don't break your hand off patting yourself on the back there.


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Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 424	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:26:00 - [1] - Quote All of these "proposed" assault bonuses are ***** stupid outside of the Amarr bonus to laser weaponry heat-up. The 5% reduction to light weapons and sidearms? *** STUPID. Reload your 40 rnd RR faster? *** STUPID. 25% less bullet spread/kick on hybrids? *** STUPID. Assault will become the most insignificant class in the game, just behind the logi. The logi will ONLY have value because of the amount of equip slots period. The they are giving to scouts, heavies, and commandos are DIRECT ROLE BUFFS. But with assaults, it almost seems like they say here, we want you guys to be a class of cannon fodder. Especially Minmatar. We'll buff scouts speed, cpu, bonuses, scan profiles, add mod slots, and give them an extra equip. Heavies....you guys get some pretty badass bonuses to your direct racial weakness, allowing you to stand and deliver and do your job of point defense longer. Logis...I mean, you've had it really nice with such versatility we have to do something so we'll give you a bonus to your racial equip, nerf the other equip (bad), but basically you'll be able to be a better LOGIBRO. Commandos...You have literally been absolutely useless the entire life of this game, lets make you the new assaults. That's a great idea, heavies can carry light weapons, but commandos? Yeah they can carry two! and reload faster (cal assault?) and get direct damage bonuses. That's a great idea, let's take the most insignificant class and make them the true slayer class. Finally, the assaults...We know that assault means you should probably be leading the charge but since Logis have always been better at your job then you guys, assaults. We're basically going to turn your class into basic frames. We know 40% of our playerbase is assault, but why should we give them any bonus useful to slaying? Let's give them bonuses that help them fit better guns! Yeah, cause that's the problem that the community has been screaming about for ages, I can't fit a proto weapon on my suit! SMH. Assault bonuses need to be a DIRECT ROLE BUFF. IMO the assault class is the slayer class, the commando is a ***** novelty, a bastard heavy suit that should be centered around point defense because its A HEAVY SUIT! Assault bonus: 2% dmg to Racial weaponry per level Cal: (Increase RR charge to .35/.4) reduction in charge 5% Amarr: 5% lasers weap build up Gal: 3% Range of plasma weap Minmatar: 2% RoF increase to min weaponry/+5% weaponry clip size (pick one) Something like these that are direct buffs to OFFENSIVE output. Not some bullshit half-assed bonus that will relegate the class to insignificance. Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 425	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:29:00 - [2] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Am I the only one who thinks the minmitar assault bonus should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? They gave us the lowest ehp of the medium suits with more stamina and a little more speed. The amarr has the most stamina of medium frames, min is the fastest. The min assault is a hit/run assault not really a scout role. We don't have the cpu/pg to do anything "scouty" Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 425	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:49:00 - [3] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Drapedup Drippedout wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Am I the only one who thinks the minmitar assault bonus should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? They gave us the lowest ehp of the medium suits with more stamina and a little more speed. The amarr has the most stamina of medium frames, min is the fastest. The min assault is a hit/run assault not really a scout role. We don't have the cpu/pg to do anything "scouty" You're right my mistake that was the wrong word to use: the hybrid LIGHT/assault suit. Is that more fitting for what I meant to imply as a hit and run suit? It still stands that a larger clip to mag dump longer isn't a logical bonus for a hit and run suit. Edit: Also it doesn't matter if the amarr has the most stamina, speed is a factor in hit and run which is not what an amarr assault suit is designed for. I guess to extrapolate sustained fire bonuses do not make sense on a hit and run suit. I disagree. I'm at 28mil SP with 1 proto suit since 7mil, the MIn assault. If the clip size buff applies to Minmatar weaponry, then yes it is a HUGE advantage. Ever use the Six Kin ACR? 15-18 more bullets is about .2 secs worth of trigger pull. The boundless CR, you can dip in and out of cover/engage multiple enemies without reloading. About 2.5 secs to reload, is 2.5 secs you should've been sprinting/flanking/dipping/ducking/dodging/diving. Stamina has nothing to do with hit and run, amarr has the most stamina because they are the slowest. I guess I'm wondering, are you standing still while you empty that clip? or do you suffer from the "gotta reload after every engagement" syndrome that plagues FPS's? Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 425	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:59:00 - [4] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Drapedup Drippedout wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Drapedup Drippedout wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Am I the only one who thinks the minmitar assault bonus should be what the minmitar assaults role is as a hybrid scout/assault? They gave us the lowest ehp of the medium suits with more stamina and a little more speed. The amarr has the most stamina of medium frames, min is the fastest. The min assault is a hit/run assault not really a scout role. We don't have the cpu/pg to do anything "scouty" You're right my mistake that was the wrong word to use: the hybrid LIGHT/assault suit. Is that more fitting for what I meant to imply as a hit and run suit? It still stands that a larger clip to mag dump longer isn't a logical bonus for a hit and run suit. Edit: Also it doesn't matter if the amarr has the most stamina, speed is a factor in hit and run which is not what an amarr assault suit is designed for. I guess to extrapolate sustained fire bonuses do not make sense on a hit and run suit. I disagree. I'm at 28mil SP with 1 proto suit since 7mil, the MIn assault. If the clip size buff applies to Minmatar weaponry, then yes it is a HUGE advantage. Ever use the Six Kin ACR? 15-18 more bullets is about .2 secs worth of trigger pull. The boundless CR, you can dip in and out of cover/engage multiple enemies without reloading. About 2.5 secs to reload, is 2.5 secs you should've been sprinting/flanking/dipping/ducking/dodging/diving. Stamina has nothing to do with hit and run, amarr has the most stamina because they are the slowest. I guess I'm wondering, are you standing still while you empty that clip? or do you suffer from the "gotta reload after every engagement" syndrome that plagues FPS's? Getting a bonus to a very specific playstyle to fit your specific suit loadout isn't a good bonus. The bonus should address our role, not your six kin. That's bad game design, you should feel bad for promoting CCP's already poor balancing habits by suggesting such things. Also, are we playing the same game? You can't sprint while firing and bunny hoping in an amarr suit.... yeah you do that. Edit: Also saying you have 28 mil SP doesn't help at all. Why? Look at this game, it was definitely not beta tested well at all or they listened to bad suggestions like your six kin argument, so don't break your hand off patting yourself on the back there. ....seriously? The Combat Rifle is the minmatar rifle. So WTF are you talking about? Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 425	Posted - 2014.02.19 13:06:00 - [5] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Drapedup Drippedout wrote: ....seriously? The Combat Rifle is the minmatar rifle. So WTF are you talking about? /thread over as you obviously have no idea whats going on here. Because a suit bonus should be based around one weapon that belongs to said racial! That's wtf I am talking about. You are suggesting that one weapon should dictate a suits bonus, you are bad and should feel bad. Like I said, thanks for beta testing this game. HAHA! Go reread the proposed bonuses from my original response. Then realize you can't read/comprehend. Then apologize for being a douche, and stop crying on the forums because you have no idea what you're talking about. PS - this is my last response. Please stop poisoning the forums with your stupidity and ignorance. Read more, opine less. Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"