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Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 419	Posted - 2014.02.19 05:17:00 - [1] - Quote I've been enjoying mercing myself out and lately have been getting hired by newer corps barely setting their foot in PC. I even got to watch a corp get their cherry popped with getting ob'ed by the enemy in ground spawn at beginning of match for first time. While I am grateful to be trusted by being ordered to simply "do my thing," there are so many things a derpship can do, and I will like to discuss a few. Now, many of you probably already know what one might call "common sense" objectives but if you guys like the intel, I will eventually move on the more complex objectives with that goal that you learn something new about derpships. Let's start with its role specific objective. Transportation: While many corps like to use the derpship to transport mercs at the beginning of the match, many forget that it can transport mercs throughout the match just as effectively. More important, since time passed since a derpship spawned, it can just as easily pick up blueberries as it is to pick up squad mates since the lock timer has passed. Some scenarios, taking mercs to reinforce a friendly objective getting over run (why die and spawn when you can save a clone and simply be flown their faster than spawn timer), likewise evacuating mercs that have to abandon an objective (a living merc is more effective than a dead one waiting to spawn somewhere else) that's getting overrun. Flanking objectives. 2 seats equals 3 man assault squad. (Very effective in outside objectives). 2 mercs go hack objective with ADS Covering as support. Have uplinks? 2 mercs will frontline attack as more mercs spawn to clean up mess. Or drop slayers to clear towers and roofs from forges so I may rain down fire near objectives. And a rare case but could turn the tide, AV squad, forges love to guard objectives from roofs and towers. But you don't always need 2. By taking a forger or any AV merc, we can drop on top of vehicles and assist our tanks from enemies on top of mountains or near redline. They won't see us coming. Infantry support: Pushing forward? Derpship can pave the way by removing enemies from the path towards objective making it easier to get the objectives faster. Want to hack? Derpship can cover the hacker from invisible enemies spawning in close to try to kill hacker. All mercs are dead and they gonna hack objective a derpship with precision can shoot anything by the terminal long enough for a new squad to spawn in and save it. Vehicle support: Tanks getting harassed? Derpships can bombard enemy vehicles as friendliest get away. Don't want enemy getting away? A derpship can get into position a couple of meters above enemy tank outside their line of sight and coordinate a joint attack with rail tanks. A large rail turret + small missile turrets hitting at once are much better than rail alone. And lastly, and most overlooked, Reconnaissance : Who needs scanners when you got a recon derpship? Scanners are limited by range, cool down, and squad only. A recon derpship on the other hand can be your eyes and ears. They have the best view of everything going on in the battlefield. They can coordinate attacks with tanks or warn friendly tanks from going into a trap/ambush. They can provide intel on enemy forces, lavs trying to sneak behind our lines or seeing a big push to one objective. These are some of the most basic yet effective roles of a derpship. I figured it would be easier to post them here. It gets tiring trying to relay feedback to every FC After every match. I would like your feedback as well, if you feel it will be beneficial to continue explaining derpships in terms of PC I can continue to add more. Please provide your feedback. Things I will like to discuss: How to counter derpships? How to communicate with derpships? Tactical strategies implementing derpships And if there is something specific you want me talk about , please let me know. -Luck is just one of my skills Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.02.19 05:49:00 - [2] - Quote Swarm launchers need a buff.
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 420	Posted - 2014.02.19 06:12:00 - [3] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: Swarm launchers need a buff. please dont go off topic. -Luck is just one of my skills Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2367	Posted - 2014.02.19 06:37:00 - [4] - Quote Sir Snugglz wrote: Stiddlefaxq wrote: Swarm launchers need a buff. please dont go off topic. So how about them Redline Rails? How do you deal with them? Listen I'll change the song every week
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 420	Posted - 2014.02.19 06:42:00 - [5] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Sir Snugglz wrote: Stiddlefaxq wrote: Swarm launchers need a buff. please dont go off topic. So how about them Redline Rails? How do you deal with them? that goes into scenarios but a quick summary is friendly rail tanks can take shot first and derpship can finish it off in the redline and still get out. -Luck is just one of my skills Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2367	Posted - 2014.02.19 06:51:00 - [6] - Quote Sir Snugglz wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Sir Snugglz wrote: Stiddlefaxq wrote: Swarm launchers need a buff. please dont go off topic. So how about them Redline Rails? How do you deal with them? that goes into scenarios but a quick summary is friendly rail tanks can take shot first and derpship can finish it off in the redline and still get out. kk Listen I'll change the song every week
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 179	Posted - 2014.02.19 12:19:00 - [7] - Quote Sir Snugglz wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Sir Snugglz wrote: Stiddlefaxq wrote: Swarm launchers need a buff. please dont go off topic. So how about them Redline Rails? How do you deal with them? that goes into scenarios but a quick summary is friendly rail tanks can take shot first and derpship can finish it off in the redline and still get out. This works good. I would all so like to try getting a squad in and out of hot zones to change letters we attack fast. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 75	Posted - 2014.02.19 13:57:00 - [8] - Quote Rail tanks fire too far and rail towers also which makes the dropship very prone to surprise destruction.Also the price of ads is disproportionate against tanks which can down them in 2 shots... Quebec United CFO
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 75	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:00:00 - [9] - Quote But your assessments are nonetheless good about the possibilities. Implementing them is near impossible after 2 months of trying, simply too cost ineficient. Quebec United CFO
SoLJae SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 555	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:20:00 - [10] - Quote Good stuff, Snugglz...Thanks! Yeah, in PC, the early moments are critical and Dropships surely have their role. Our SVER directors actually issued a directive a few weeks back that made it mandatory for our PC DS pilots to have a mobile cru onboard. I've been in PC squads where we would spawn directly into a DS at the start of a match. We'd be on the central objectives in seconds!!! Feck, even Ted, the legendary SVER tanker, has mastered Dropship piloting nowadays. I'm sure some of the old DUST vets will get a kick out of that. He's actually a really good flier. A good corp is always better with some top notch DS pilots in its ranks.

RevoItZ The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 367	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:37:00 - [11] - Quote Can you teach me how to fly one day Snugz? Winner of EU Prime League Tournament Winner of EU Squad Cup RIP MAG
LionTurtle91 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 63	Posted - 2014.02.19 14:45:00 - [12] - Quote RevoItZ wrote: Can you teach me how to fly one day Snugz? I can show you the world......Shining, shimmering, splendid! Tell me, princess, now when did you last let your heart decide? A WHOLE NEW WOOOORLLLLLLLLLLD! =ƒæë=ƒæî
RevoItZ The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 367	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:02:00 - [13] - Quote LionTurtle91 wrote: RevoItZ wrote: Can you teach me how to fly one day Snugz? I can show you the world......Shining, shimmering, splendid! Tell me, princess, now when did you last let your heart decide? A WHOLE NEW WOOOORLLLLLLLLLLD! Hold me Winner of EU Prime League Tournament Winner of EU Squad Cup RIP MAG
LionTurtle91 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 64	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:07:00 - [14] - Quote RevoItZ wrote: LionTurtle91 wrote: RevoItZ wrote: Can you teach me how to fly one day Snugz? I can show you the world......Shining, shimmering, splendid! Tell me, princess, now when did you last let your heart decide? A WHOLE NEW WOOOORLLLLLLLLLLD! Hold me Is there an airport nearby or is that just my heart taking off? =ƒæë=ƒæî
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2883	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:10:00 - [15] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Good stuff, Snugglz...Thanks! Yeah, in PC, the early moments are critical and Dropships surely have their role. Our SVER directors actually issued a directive a few weeks back that made it mandatory for our PC DS pilots to have a mobile cru onboard. I've been in PC squads where we would spawn directly into a DS at the start of a match. We'd be on the central objectives in seconds!!! Feck, even Ted, the legendary SVER tanker, has mastered Dropship piloting nowadays. I'm sure some of the old DUST vets will get a kick out of that. He's actually a really good flier. A good corp is always better with some top notch DS pilots in its ranks. The one thing that sucks about waiting to spawn on the mobile CRU is that sometimes the MCRU doesn't go active until the DS is nearly into the city. I'd say it happens 2 out of 10 times. I can't figure out why there isn't a sub skill for MCRUs to decrease spawn time. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 2113	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:26:00 - [16] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: Rail tanks fire too far and rail towers also which makes the dropship very prone to surprise destruction.Also the price of ads is disproportionate against tanks which can down them in 2 shots... See, this where you have to adapt. Go recruit tanks to destroy the other tanks and keep them of your infantry and dropships. Be proactive, not reactive. So about those vehicle locks...
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2738	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:29:00 - [17] - Quote LionTurtle91 wrote: RevoItZ wrote: Can you teach me how to fly one day Snugz? I can show you the world......Shining, shimmering, splendid! Tell me, princess, now when did you last let your heart decide? A WHOLE NEW WOOOORLLLLLLLLLLD! Prince ALLLLLLI a BaB-Wa or Prince a BOO-BOO (mean Jafar) seriously Snugglz, if you marketed yourself better you might have a better experience. Everything you posted is EXACTLY what My pilots do, relay, perform. etc. then again u never get to experience that when on the opposing side every time. Guess I'm lucky I have the 'Irish Assassin' that is active (this week at least :P). that and you aren't in any channels im in. Definitely not that I wouldn't want to use you, but the 1 thing that irks me enough with my own players is having to chase people down. (best bet is to send me a PSN ) Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2738	Posted - 2014.02.19 15:40:00 - [18] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Good stuff, Snugglz...Thanks! Yeah, in PC, the early moments are critical and Dropships surely have their role. Our SVER directors actually issued a directive a few weeks back that made it mandatory for our PC DS pilots to have a mobile cru onboard. I've been in PC squads where we would spawn directly into a DS at the start of a match. We'd be on the central objectives in seconds!!! Feck, even Ted, the legendary SVER tanker, has mastered Dropship piloting nowadays. I'm sure some of the old DUST vets will get a kick out of that. He's actually a really good flier. A good corp is always better with some top notch DS pilots in its ranks. now riddle me this batman.... how the F$%K would anyone ever know that when the closest you get to PC is an AFK match? just sayin. and seriously... 'Ted' and 'Legendary' in the same sentence, much less book? lulz Good to hear he's active again for sure, always a good tanker, but false advertising has never done STB any good, thought with the changes you made you guys finally learned that ok back on topic: mobile CRUs simply aren't viable (in 98% of cases) until that skill tree is fully released. 10s spawn? situational. I agree there is a place for it, situationally, but telling an ADS pilot to have a mobile CRU is hurting not only the pilot and his capabilities, but lots of other things. Situationally, yes all pilots should have a fit with a CRU OR, better yet.. what any self-respecting pilot would do. have proto links and a logi suit to expand his capabilities on the field. being 1 dimensional is the ultimate FAIL of most groups. Probably why there is such a large discrepancy between the top 3-4 corps and everyone else. Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
SoLJae SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 555	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:25:00 - [19] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: now riddle me this batman.... how the F$%K would anyone ever know that when the closest you get to PC is an AFK match? just sayin. Uh, because...I've done it...in a PC match. Several actually, the most recent being a district flip against DDB, fighting alongside an all- SVER team. You might want to recheck ur infos cubs, you gettin' soft around here. Maybe that's why your precious PFC went to shitz..lol ...just sayin'
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2741	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:28:00 - [20] - Quote SoLJae wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: now riddle me this batman.... how the F$%K would anyone ever know that when the closest you get to PC is an AFK match? just sayin. Uh, because...I've done it...in a PC match. Several actually, the most recent being a district flip against DDB, fighting alongside an all- SVER team. You might want to recheck ur infos cubs, you gettin' soft around here. Maybe that's why your precious PFC went to shitz..lol ...just sayin' everything I just said just went directly over your head... just sayin Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.

SoLJae SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 556	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:33:00 - [21] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: SoLJae wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: now riddle me this batman.... how the F$%K would anyone ever know that when the closest you get to PC is an AFK match? just sayin. Uh, because...I've done it...in a PC match. Several actually, the most recent being a district flip against DDB, fighting alongside an all- SVER team. You might want to recheck ur infos cubs, you gettin' soft around here. Maybe that's why your precious PFC went to shitz..lol ...just sayin' everything I just said just went directly over your head... just sayin You're quickly becoming a nonfactor around here cubs. Your days have passed. Your ideas failed. just sayin'
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 178	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:49:00 - [22] - Quote Good read. As it is now there is a growing presence in vehicles in competitive play. Practical strategies are usually the most simple and effective in my opinion when playing with different groups on a regular basis. When playing with a niche group who you run regularly with I feel this is where advanced level battle drills can best be implemented. Dropships are by no means standard practice with an exception being in the first minute of the battle due requiring a high degree of skill to operate effectively. In my opinion dropshiping is the hardest role in the game as of 1.7.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2208	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:03:00 - [23] - Quote Oh STB... Not this again Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
SoLJae SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 556	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:08:00 - [24] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Oh STB... Not this again GG ReG!
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2744	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:14:00 - [25] - Quote SoLJae wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: SoLJae wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: now riddle me this batman.... how the F$%K would anyone ever know that when the closest you get to PC is an AFK match? just sayin. Uh, because...I've done it...in a PC match. Several actually, the most recent being a district flip against DDB, fighting alongside an all- SVER team. You might want to recheck ur infos cubs, you gettin' soft around here. Maybe that's why your precious PFC went to shitz..lol ...just sayin' everything I just said just went directly over your head... just sayin You're quickly becoming a nonfactor around here cubs. Your days have passed. Your ideas failed. just sayin' get with the times Jethro I've been a nonfactor since Codex(when I started playing this game). My days passed before they ever came. and me? ideas? lol Everyone locks to save their asses, both AE and NF seem to find ways around 'locking' to keep our teams from getting out of shape, and u sit here talking like you're a somebody. You have no one to blame but yourself that you aren't allowed in the high roller room. Keep to them pubs and tell QG I said hi Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
Common- Sense Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 26	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:19:00 - [26] - Quote Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein
SoLJae SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 556	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:20:00 - [27] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: SoLJae wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: SoLJae wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: now riddle me this batman.... how the F$%K would anyone ever know that when the closest you get to PC is an AFK match? just sayin. Uh, because...I've done it...in a PC match. Several actually, the most recent being a district flip against DDB, fighting alongside an all- SVER team. You might want to recheck ur infos cubs, you gettin' soft around here. Maybe that's why your precious PFC went to shitz..lol ...just sayin' everything I just said just went directly over your head... just sayin You're quickly becoming a nonfactor around here cubs. Your days have passed. Your ideas failed. just sayin' get with the times Jethro I've been a nonfactor since Codex(when I started playing this game). My days passed before they ever came. and me? ideas? lol Everyone locks to save their asses, both AE and NF seem to find ways around 'locking' to keep our teams from getting out of shape, and u sit here talking like you're a somebody. You have no one to blame but yourself that you aren't allowed in the high roller room. Keep to them pubs and tell QG I said hi I love that my corp, SVER, is playing the meta and utilizing all the tools that CCP gave us. Bank'n ISK and gettin' paid. It's called longevity, mate, but you might not know about that being from TP and all. ..and BTW, I'll be rooting against your MLB namesake for the entire upcoming season. Take that, you hubris huffer!
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2746	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:31:00 - [28] - Quote take full advantage, cause just like the last 3 times, STB is gonna need every last penny to save their asses, yet again. you couldn't fight your way out of a paper bag without getting hurt. I mean seriously.. u play EZmode FW and cant even win THAT. bottom line #WiNNinG is what matters. feel free to 'meta' your ass back to Ruby Tuesdays for a $3 margarita special. Maybe that's what lets you forget you're still nothing and have never been on your own. Also feel free to show myself and the rest of the community otherwise. Oh Im sorry you beat DDB.. almost a MONTH ago (January 28th to be exact). O wait sorry, 2/2 you took another district.. from DDB... my hat is off to you good sir. IF feelin frisky, and of course just for funsies, I'd be happy to set up a friendly match.. for 1 of your districts. We can even toss in a friendly wager just to make things interesting. I mean You beat DDB... TWICE... in less than a week no less. disclaimer: I mean no disrespect to DDB, but most of us know the hardships you have been through and personnel issues you have had. #knight2rook4#Check Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2211	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:34:00 - [29] - Quote SoLJae wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Oh STB... Not this again GG ReG! Silly little STB, at the moment there much much bigger fish to fry. Take solace in this thought, and enjoy the reprieve that is granted to you. However, do not ever mistake, for a moment, that you're safe. For there will always be a lingering thought in deepest bowels of mind, that will seek to destroy everything your brotherhood holds dear. WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
NF Travel Agent Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:36:00 - [30] - Quote SoLJae wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: SoLJae wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: now riddle me this batman.... how the F$%K would anyone ever know that when the closest you get to PC is an AFK match? just sayin. Uh, because...I've done it...in a PC match. Several actually, the most recent being a district flip against DDB, fighting alongside an all- SVER team. You might want to recheck ur infos cubs, you gettin' soft around here. Maybe that's why your precious PFC went to shitz..lol ...just sayin' everything I just said just went directly over your head... just sayin You're quickly becoming a nonfactor around here cubs. Your days have passed. Your ideas failed. just sayin' Lol stb Contact in game to buy a district or register .



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