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DEZKA DIABLO
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:20:00 -
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So you want to use nova knives? You want to be a minja an have a 25% nova knife bonus? Ok here you go enjoy............
Wait....
We regret to inform you that your suit is highly reliable on PG even though to knife properly your kincats are going to eat your pg and so are your shields...
And thennnnnnnnmnNnnnn.....
We're gonna let you skill your proto knives with a obscene fitting cost of something like 48/8, only for you to realize.......
IT'S THE ONLY WEAPON WITH NO FITTING OPTIMIZATION SKILL!
So yes we gave you a suit bonus to a weapon that totally screws up how you fit your entire suit and destroys your suits maximum potential!
Sincerely all of us at CCP=ƒæì
Common hahaha really dudes it's been a year hook us up and fire the guy that forgot this! |
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:34:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:out of all things to call CCP out on, you call them out on this
2/10 i'm sorry dawg Honstly I'm a scout since beta, so ya I could cry about, dps, tanks, ttk, rr, weapon range, that crap doesnt bother me I'm a scout , listening to tanked med frames cry cus they die as fast as scouts is ......BEAUTIFUL MUSIC TO MY EARS!
Seriously tho this makes no sence, fitting cost is too high for a suit that has too little an needs this weapon as its part of its suit bonus, imagine they tripled scanner fitting costs, gallente logistics WOULD SNAP!
It would be 5 pages of forums, so just cuz theirs less of us doesn't mean it should be ignored, a couple button pushes, problem solved! Make the skill or change the fitting cost |
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:08:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I fit them just fine on a STD Gallente suit with MLT kincats.
Got well over 200 kills for the scout event. Your a gallente Nuff said, I had that kill count on my main in 2 days with maybe 10hrs of play , what's ur point?! |
DEZKA DIABLO
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:13:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote: And...... you can fit NK on a Min Scout easily. Did I even mention the ScR has the most obscene fitting costs of the four rifles? Do I ***** as a result? No.
So HTFU
I can't tell if troll or noGǪ.. I don't troll sir.... or do I? First off, the problem is that minmitar scouts have the most abysmal fittings in the game, so that they don't have any synergy with nova knives, as they should. I don't even use nova knives anymore due to the cost, and settle for a shotgun instead, unless i really want to embarrass someone. The fittings just don't work, as you have to use kin cats to stay effective. I assume that you are not trolling, but rather are posting in a misinformed manner, without appreciating the full scope of the situation. Finally a real scout speaks with intelligence an a understanding of sarcasm. Thank you good merc I am proud to have you in my thread, it almost got tainted by a whole lot of people that had no idea what I ment.
The fitting cost and lack of a nessacary skill in the tree horribly affects the suit and it's purpose and has waited too long for a hotfix |
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:36:00 -
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So kalakiota rail rifle, 3xcomplex damage mods, alloteck hives, quantum scanners, complex reps an plates are a figment of our imagination then?
Not one person that disagrees is a bloody full time minja scouts, so go take your bordom and negativity an lack of knowledge about the topic to a place you know something about, hahaha oh YE That's right that's why your littering here lol |
DEZKA DIABLO
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:05:00 -
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Caldari or not, their knives with the fitting cost of a asmg, with NO fitting skill to reduce pg, ya maybe ur not supposed to fit all proto UNLESS your core and weapon fitting optimizations are complete!
How can this be done IF YOUR MISSING THE SKILL( not shouting lol) |
DEZKA DIABLO
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:25:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136370&find=unreadThings of note for the 1.8 changes that are coming: Scouts getting a CPU/PG buff. Scouts getting additional high/low slots. Scouts getting one extra equipment slot. Scouts getting bonuses for fitting cloaks to compliment the knives. BTW, I'm a dedicated knifer and I agree that the current setup we have now in 1.7 makes the scouts pretty gimped but so far I have been doing pretty well with the following fit. [Balto] Scout M-1 1x Ishukone Nova Knives 1x BPO SMG 1x Basic Sidearm Damage Mod 2x Basic Kinetic Catalyzers Cost: Approx. 18,000 ISK total Damage: Approx. 1,100 HP fully charged Been able to go about 15/9, 10/5, 7/3 on average in most matches with this setup and make a nice profit despite the losses. If I can do pretty well with this setup right now, I can't wait to see how I'll do with the coming changes in 1.8. EDIT: As you can now see, CCP has not been cruel to the scouts this time. We're getting plenty of love in 1.8. Ya I kno they haven't been cruel mackintosh , the thread title is a joke and why are you running damage mod don't you have a proto min an proficiency 5 yet? 1428 damage bro get them skillz up |
DEZKA DIABLO
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Posted - 2014.02.19 07:09:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Ya I kno they haven't been cruel mackintosh , the thread title is a joke and why are you running damage mod don't you have a proto min an proficiency 5 yet? 1428 damage bro get them skillz up Run your math again, bro. You can't get 1,428 HP damage without complex damage mod even with NK Proficiency to level 5 and Minmatar Scout Dropsuit to level 5 (which I already have). EDIT: Damn it, I need to proof-read more often. Don't need to bro! Musturd checked it in PC, |
DEZKA DIABLO
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Posted - 2014.02.19 07:18:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:For the record, I can wear the proto suit, but I refuse to wear due to the cost. The Scout M-1 does just fine.
PS: It's late at night right now and I'm feeling a bit sleepy. Please forgive me if my posts are a little... off.
You still get the 25% bonus for the suit an 15 for proficiency |
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Posted - 2014.02.19 09:45:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Well I've done the math with the new PG/CPU and pretty much all skills at lvl 5 (Core Upgrades, Electronics, Engineering, Light weapon operation, Sidearm operation, CR optimization, Explosives etc).
Here's my best build: Lows-2 Pro Kin Cats & 1 Pro dampener. Highs-1 Pro Precision Enhancer & 2 Pro Shield Extenders. Equipment-Adv cloak & no secondary. Light weapon-Adv CR (or Pro specialist faction CR). Sidearm-Pro Knives Grenade-Core Locust.
A little glass cannon but deadly. You're struggling for PG but slip by.
Conversely if you trade 1 Extender for a Precision Enhancer you could add a nice secondary equipment or a better CR. Or you could add a Dmg mod in place of the Extender.
I think the Minja will be OK. Ya it ll be fine but no skill is still stupid when your makin a fit an over by 1, any assault can max a light an a side arm optimization , an the suit that runs a bonus with this sidearm cannot it's just down right lame.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:10:00 -
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Ronan Elsword wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:
First off, the problem is that minmitar scouts have the most abysmal fittings in the game, so that they don't have any synergy with nova knives, as they should. I don't even use nova knives anymore due to the cost, and settle for a shotgun instead, unless i really want to embarrass someone. The fittings just don't work, as you have to use kin cats to stay effective. I assume that you are not trolling, but rather are posting in a misinformed manner, without appreciating the full scope of the situation.
Finally a real scout speaks with intelligence an a understanding of sarcasm. Thank you good merc I am proud to have you in my thread, it almost got tainted by a whole lot of people that had no idea what I ment. The fitting cost and lack of a nessacary skill in the tree horribly affects the suit and it's purpose and has waited too long for a hotfix I think that if the PG fittings were reduced to flay lock level, it would be exponentially more viable. Currently, a core flay lock is easier to fit than ADV knives on a minmitar scout, which simply does not make logical sense. If minmitar have low PG and normal CPU, nova knives should cost low PG and normal CPU. That makes the synergy function far better than it currently does *Wonders why Caldari tech is being compared to Matari tech* Your argument is invalid. Edit: Your also comparing a lower tech small missile launcher to a high tech knife that involves a lot of science. (PS3 unavailable so couldn't get description) Argument invalid?????? IT'S THE ONLY WEAPON IN THE GAME MISSING A SKILL!
What's not to get?! You don't think knives deserve the skill because there knives or because there caldari knifes? Either way it's missing a skill plain and simple!
Edit: that's like saying your gallente LOGI doesn't get a rail rifle optimization skill |
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:21:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Ya I kno they haven't been cruel mackintosh , the thread title is a joke and why are you running damage mod don't you have a proto min an proficiency 5 yet? 1428 damage bro get them skillz up Run your math again, bro. You can't get 1,428 HP damage without complex damage mod even with NK Proficiency to level 5 and Minmatar Scout Dropsuit to level 5 (which I already have). EDIT: Damn it, I need to proof-read more often. tosh your wrong prof 5 with proto knives will do 1428damage with a full charge when both knives hit. i have tested this, the math doesnt add up but those are the numbers that happen trust me Thank you |
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:07:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:True Adamance wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:So you want to use nova knives? You want to be a minja an have a 25% nova knife bonus? Ok here you go enjoy............
Wait....
We regret to inform you that your suit is highly reliable on PG even though to knife properly your kincats are going to eat your pg and so are your shields...
And thennnnnnnnmnNnnnn.....
We're gonna let you skill your proto knives with a obscene fitting cost of something like 48/8, only for you to realize.......
IT'S THE ONLY WEAPON WITH NO FITTING OPTIMIZATION SKILL!
So yes we gave you a suit bonus to a weapon that totally screws up how you fit your entire suit and destroys your suits maximum potential!
Sincerely all of us at CCP=ƒæì
Common hahaha really dudes it's been a year hook us up and fire the guy that forgot this! And...... you can fit NK on a Min Scout easily. Did I even mention the ScR has the most obscene fitting costs of the four rifles? Do I ***** as a result? No. So HTFU and Stfu Uuummmmm, it doesn't have a skill that every other weapon has( fitting optimization) what makes it so hard to understand that this needs a fix? |
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