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Sgt Bluewolf
Rough Riders.. Primus Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.17 09:00:00 -
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I love this game to me the only thing missing is a skill respec button. According to others I've talked to alot seem to agree with me even if it cost aurum or cash like 5 dollars or something a lot of people would pay. We make mistakes learning the game and that gives veteran players way too big an advantage it would be bringing in another revenue for you so why not ccp? |
akira 1999
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.17 10:31:00 -
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because respecs would be abused for the fit of the month pandemic that plagues the game.
there will be at least 1 maybe 2 more partial respecs, one when the rest of the racial suits are made available ( probably only for drop suit command ) and probably one when the rest of the vehicles are brought online (partial vehicle and vehicle weapons).
and this is in line with CCP policy dealing with skills and training. when there is large changes to the skills in EVE (like when the learning skills were removed) all players received a refund of isk on skill books and all accumulated SP.
** there may be in the works an option for pay for respecs in DUST, but that wont be until after all racial suits, gear and vehicles are made available and would probably be based on AUR transactions. ****THOUGH THIS IS ONLY SPECULATION ON MY PART****
the rampant over use of respecs on demand would ultimately lead only to more forum posts on how that is now ruining the game. So I say wait and see, we will get at least 2 more partial repsecs. and if ccp were to take my advice they should make a training grounds virtual simulator in game so people can use weapons, suits, vehicles and equipment before they spec into them. a simple gun range, vehicle obstacle course etc. so folks can try stuff before they spec into it. though 10 years later and there is nothing like that in EVE. |
Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.17 11:50:00 -
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Soon as there is a respec, everyone will be disappointed when they hear "vehicle quota reached" as they try to call out their new op tanks.
Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
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akira 1999
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.17 12:03:00 -
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true... wish they would implement the stuff they showed in the 2009 fanfest video presentation for dust...
" the commander of the team will set out what vehicles they will bring into the match.. so like 2 air 2 tanks and like a jeep " ** paraphrased from the original video **
be nice if they actually had the war barge with the tactical map and you have to set what vehicles will be available and how many. and to balance have a specific amount of vehicle points available with costs for all vehicle types.
that way 1 guy cant spam in 10 tanks in a match because the team has a quota on how many they have available, and once those are gone.. well hope you like the running and gunning game because that's what you have to play now.
and on demand repsecs are still bad. imho |
Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.17 12:29:00 -
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Hmm..., let me think...
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Mark Twain
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Sgt Bluewolf
Rough Riders.. Primus Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.18 06:19:00 -
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I understand it would be abused if there wasn't some sort of limit to it's use such as it resets every six months or so. Also put a severe penalty on it as well if its used for anyone who has over a certain amount of sp. Wouldn't want it easy just there and available in some cases. |
Sgt Bluewolf
Rough Riders.. Primus Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.18 06:22:00 -
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And thankyou for feedback good and bad is always good just a thought |
The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.18 15:36:00 -
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Sgt Bluewolf wrote:And thankyou for feedback good and bad is always good just a thought No more repecs! CCP said so. in real life, if u rob a bank and get caught, there are no repecs/do overs. |
Infamous Erich
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.18 17:05:00 -
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In a life where we are playing a video game, and people try to use real life references to try to stop people from abusing this respec (fit of the month) how about CCP just doesn't release weapons or tanks without maybe idk testing it and seeing if its op as hell compared to the rest then us the community could use these respec's of a way to just enjoy the game instead of a bunch of 10 year olds crying over a why a free game is so hard lmfao.
ps i don't even need a respec im at about 32m sp lifetime and i dont need proto to kill u in urs that being said i think its u guys who need the respec more then the vets
Closed Beta Vet
Shield Tank Vet
Bring back my Sagaris
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Aleph Rynedee
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.02.18 17:06:00 -
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How is robbing a bank in real life related to respecing in a video game? That makes as much sense as saying a felled tree doesn't get a respec/do-over so neither should you. |
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Liquid Big Boss
Quebec United
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Posted - 2014.02.18 17:20:00 -
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akira 1999 wrote:because respecs would be abused for the fit of the month pandemic that plagues the game.
then CCP should find a way to balance the game...it have to be a way! oh yes i got it, but only one suit and one weapon in the game!! YAHHHH
I'm the boss to superpass big boss itself
MAG vet Raven forever
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.18 19:55:00 -
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/pinches the bridge of his nose
Not this again. This has been brought up far too many times. We do give leniency to certain "partial respecs" such as when CCP does a complete overhaul of the skill books, etc.
However, when it comes to "respecs on demand" such as whenever you just want to swap to a different flavor for the hell of it, I have to remind you that the vast majority of the players here are against such a thing. Period. There are enough reasons to go around and you can find them via the "search" function.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Never.Surrender
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:23:00 -
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akira 1999 wrote:because respecs would be abused for the fit of the month pandemic that plagues the game.
there will be at least 1 maybe 2 more partial respecs, one when the rest of the racial suits are made available ( probably only for drop suit command ) and probably one when the rest of the vehicles are brought online (partial vehicle and vehicle weapons).
and this is in line with CCP policy dealing with skills and training. when there is large changes to the skills in EVE (like when the learning skills were removed) all players received a refund of isk on skill books and all accumulated SP.
** there may be in the works an option for pay for respecs in DUST, but that wont be until after all racial suits, gear and vehicles are made available and would probably be based on AUR transactions. ****THOUGH THIS IS ONLY SPECULATION ON MY PART****
the rampant over use of respecs on demand would ultimately lead only to more forum posts on how that is now ruining the game. So I say wait and see, we will get at least 2 more partial repsecs. and if ccp were to take my advice they should make a training grounds virtual simulator in game so people can use weapons, suits, vehicles and equipment before they spec into them. a simple gun range, vehicle obstacle course etc. so folks can try stuff before they spec into it. though 10 years later and there is nothing like that in EVE.
When noobs will FINALLY understand that FoTM is NOT a reason to not accord Respec THEN we could finally get out of this sh*t. That's pretty simple a free respec should be available when a major new stuff is released. (Weapons are NOT a major new stuff , (exept heavies weapons). I'm talking about core system changes (like 1.8), a respec is ALWAYS a full respec. And a Free respec should be available every 6 Months.
*blahblahblah Fotm blah* => If a player wants to play a FoTm it's not the fact to not have a respec that will prevent him to play with it.....
Respec does Not REFUND isk. Se when you respec you must pay all your skill books. For a 18 million sp player it means something like 20 million ISK..... |
Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
420
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:38:00 -
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There wouldn't be a Flavor of the month if CCP would pull their head out their asses and give us a legitimate game.
Here's something to think about: Flavor of the month is by design, it IS the endgame content. What else keeps this game "fresh" other than completely changing it every two or three months?
Neighborhood Bully prof 5
"Gimme yo lunch money"
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1935
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:08:00 -
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Quoted from a long time ago.
Cross Atu wrote:See this thread for all the reasons why an unlimited or 'pay to play" respec system is bad for Dust and bad for New Eden. There are quite a few points raised in that thread, but if you can work out a way around those drawbacks then by all means lets discuss it. Cheers, Cross ps ~ there is however another thread which provided a possible alternative that solves many of the issues raised within the first link, perhaps starting there would be more desirable.
SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
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FarQue FromAfar
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:44:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:There wouldn't be a Flavor of the month if CCP would pull their head out their asses and give us a legitimate game.
Here's something to think about: Flavor of the month is by design, it IS the endgame content. What else keeps this game "fresh" other than completely changing it every two or three months?
I agree, if the core mechanics do not change every 2 months, then there would be no need for a respec.... period, but since guns become obsolete like the laser has been, flaylock, mass driver... to name a few, to those who have been in game and have no real life and have 30 million SP and up, good for you... Way to have what YOU want and keep the balance on your side, somewhere in New Guinea there was a tear shed just for you... maybe. For other players, having the ability to spec out of skills that are stagnate or completely worthless sounds really good. They may have the skill books purchased, fine its ISK lost, but the game is based off mercs who die and are reborn, nothing realistic about that, so what if a criminal robbed a bank in a theoretical world and rots in jail... This is a game in need of people, and with no testing grounds or PvE, it is impossible for new players to find out their play style, and most likely have put points into dumb skill trees. All of my real life friends have left the game because they got tired of getting proto stomped over and over and they honestly do not want to grind for 6 months for gear that will become obsolete. 3 of my friends left as soon as 1.7 came out because they finally had proficiency 5 on their AR's and the suits were getting close to what they wanted. They just had enough when a std rail rifle was blasting them right to the CRU and their guns were not doing any range. Guess it is what it is. I have less of a life than they do, so I have 5 accounts I swap around with when I get bored to play different suits or weapons, but that is just me. Also a side note to those with a massive amount of SP in reserve and all your core and suit skills where you want, the reason you save SP like that is for the release of new weapons and suits.... Is that not playing flavor of the month that you talk so bad about???? Why yes, yes it is, just you played with the flavor of last month and the month before long enough to get reserve SP.... So quit knocking those who want a respec, it is matter of opinion. |
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