does red star actually have any mercs not in a tank... i think that in itself highlights a problem

look at it this way. lets say they did what i suggested. carry crew and you will earn more wp for tank kills than you ever did before. if as you say there are no enemy tanks then you and your crew could be attacking positions earning extra wp from combined crew effort. that will make up for the loss of wp.

what we get is solo tankers weaker against infantry for wp but with a crew stronger than before and if a tank shows up the potential wp is higher.

this whole notion of a tank being good at killing everything needs to go or have a system to persuade tanks to choose to kill tanks over infantry.

its harder to kill a tank so the wp rewards you for it should be higher. its is not hard at all to kill infantry in a tank so rewards should be dropped to reflect that.

thats entirely up to you. fit for anti infantry or fit for anti tank. you shouldn't be allowed to do both and be rewarded for both. shouldn't this game be about fitting for the right role and being rewarded for that role. tankers always say tanks are the best counter to tanks which should be rewarded as such. this brings up the fact infantry should be the best counter to infantry and in RL this is the case. rewards should be balanced as such to reward sticking to your role but not penalising you too much for doing something different.

as it stands tanks can kill other tanks and infantry just as easy as each other without much risk yet for a merc to do the same takes a huge amount of effort and the risk is much higher yet both are rewarded the same.

wp rewards should be based on effort, lets face it there is no effort in killing infantry with a tank

infantry cant solo a tank and that is the backbone of what tankers believe av should be towards a tank yet by your own acknowledgement you want tanks to be able to solo that group of infantry for the same rewards

combined with assist points and full all round visibility your infantry killing potential is higher. there is no reason why they couldnt up assist points made by the small turrets on your vehicle to compensate you. but when that enemy tank turns up you have to run not just switch targets like you do now. alternatively if your anti tank, tank you should be rewarded more for killing a tank and less for killing infantry.

effort is not, having to aim your weapon. effort is not, landing 1-2 shots and killing any infantry in your path.there is 99.9% more effort put in by infantry to kill a tank than a tank has to put in to kill infantry

thinking about it maybe tank on tank kills should only reward 50wp. at the end of the day its no more effort for tank on tank than infantry on infantry and costs nearly the same amount of isk and effort

You are still spouting your nonsense about 1 shotting tanks with the proto breach?

Let's again visit the only mathematically possible way that is possible.

You have a Proto breach forge gun with prof 5 and two complex damage mods. You have to hit an unhardened HAV that has no plates or extenders equipped, and it HAS to be in the fuel cells.

That is the only possible way to 1 shot an HAV that is untouched. Oh yea, and only on one of the tanks is this possible.

Stop spouting your fuckin lies.

i find it astonishing that some (not all) tankers can never come up with any compromise. instead they resort to spouting nonsense to try and make a point ignoring the facts of any problems dust has with vehicle and av balance

why don't you actually try coming up with a constructive comment once in a while and maybe just maybe we can fix this to everyones benefit.

who knows maybe in the future we can put the whole issue behind us and joke about how we all got it wrong in the beginning.

is it really that hard to compromise or suggest ideas for alternatives.

if we all got with the programme and actually tried to work together and fix these issues then we would all be happier with the outcome.

everything i have ever suggested is open to constructive criticism, suggestions and changes. try working with other players to come up with ideas instead of taking them at face value

Yes it can be done, in one single scenario. One that requires tanks to not equip a single plate or extender and the FG user to have max lvl prof and 2 complex damage mods, and then ONLY on the weak spot.

So unless you are constantly going up against HAVs that don't use plates or extenders, you are full of ****.

I'm not giving you hypothetical scenarios, I'm telling you the only possible way you can one shot an HAV mathematically, and In bullshit fashion you yet again sidestep the fact that you are flat out wrong.

Then you aren't one shotting an untouched HAV, you are getting the last shot off for a kill.

There's a difference.

it's literally impossible to one shot an HAV at full ehp outside of the aforementioned scenario.

it's fact. Get over it.

You wont have any problems loading some video then. If you can't record im sure someone would be happy to help you. I look forward to watching your evidence, since you obviously aren't talking out your ass.

Oh thank God, the Pillar of Credibility is here to grace us with wisdom. Odd how you never have video to back up your fountain of wisdom