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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:25:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Whut?
So if i fit up to kill infantry i still only get 25 WP even tho i fitted it up to kill infantry and made myself weaker to vehicles? makes no sense
Effort, i still have to aim and WP is based on actions done and completing them rewards players with WP
Last i checked i dont get WP based on effort
Infantry can solo a tank, i know i have done it, i have seen it done, it may or may not be easy depending on the player but it can be done
combined with assist points and full all round visibility your infantry killing potential is higher. there is no reason why they couldnt up assist points made by the small turrets on your vehicle to compensate you. but when that enemy tank turns up you have to run not just switch targets like you do now. alternatively if your anti tank, tank you should be rewarded more for killing a tank and less for killing infantry. effort is not, having to aim your weapon. effort is not, landing 1-2 shots and killing any infantry in your path.there is 99.9% more effort put in by infantry to kill a tank than a tank has to put in to kill infantry thinking about it maybe tank on tank kills should only reward 50wp. at the end of the day its no more effort for tank on tank than infantry on infantry and costs nearly the same amount of isk and effort Obv doesnt tank If im blaster and killing infantry if another tank turns up i can either attack it or retreat, generally that other tank is a railgun which is 200m away from me meaning i have to run because its raw DPS will whack the everloving **** out of a blaster Its not just oh a tank lets switch and its dead So aiming requires no effort - same goes for infantry 1-2 shots - well it is a large blaster which deals 100dmg per shot, do you really think a meatbag scout would survive 10 if them? 99.9% - Really? So what percent am i at when i 1 shot a tank with a proto breach FG? So then how about every action just gives you 1WP no matter what you do then, just nerf the **** out of everything since everything requires no effort
You are still spouting your nonsense about 1 shotting tanks with the proto breach?
Let's again visit the only mathematically possible way that is possible.
You have a Proto breach forge gun with prof 5 and two complex damage mods. You have to hit an unhardened HAV that has no plates or extenders equipped, and it HAS to be in the fuel cells.
That is the only possible way to 1 shot an HAV that is untouched. Oh yea, and only on one of the tanks is this possible.
Stop spouting your fuckin lies. |
Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
716
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:17:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Whut?
So if i fit up to kill infantry i still only get 25 WP even tho i fitted it up to kill infantry and made myself weaker to vehicles? makes no sense
Effort, i still have to aim and WP is based on actions done and completing them rewards players with WP
Last i checked i dont get WP based on effort
Infantry can solo a tank, i know i have done it, i have seen it done, it may or may not be easy depending on the player but it can be done
combined with assist points and full all round visibility your infantry killing potential is higher. there is no reason why they couldnt up assist points made by the small turrets on your vehicle to compensate you. but when that enemy tank turns up you have to run not just switch targets like you do now. alternatively if your anti tank, tank you should be rewarded more for killing a tank and less for killing infantry. effort is not, having to aim your weapon. effort is not, landing 1-2 shots and killing any infantry in your path.there is 99.9% more effort put in by infantry to kill a tank than a tank has to put in to kill infantry thinking about it maybe tank on tank kills should only reward 50wp. at the end of the day its no more effort for tank on tank than infantry on infantry and costs nearly the same amount of isk and effort Obv doesnt tank If im blaster and killing infantry if another tank turns up i can either attack it or retreat, generally that other tank is a railgun which is 200m away from me meaning i have to run because its raw DPS will whack the everloving **** out of a blaster Its not just oh a tank lets switch and its dead So aiming requires no effort - same goes for infantry 1-2 shots - well it is a large blaster which deals 100dmg per shot, do you really think a meatbag scout would survive 10 if them? 99.9% - Really? So what percent am i at when i 1 shot a tank with a proto breach FG? So then how about every action just gives you 1WP no matter what you do then, just nerf the **** out of everything since everything requires no effort You are still spouting your nonsense about 1 shotting tanks with the proto breach? Let's again visit the only mathematically possible way that is possible. You have a Proto breach forge gun with prof 5 and two complex damage mods. You have to hit an unhardened HAV that has no plates or extenders equipped, and it HAS to be in the fuel cells. That is the only possible way to 1 shot an HAV that is untouched. Oh yea, and only on one of the tanks is this possible. Stop spouting your fuckin lies. Its not lies I have done it and ive seen others do it It can be done and just because you cant do it doesnt mean it cant be done
Yes it can be done, in one single scenario. One that requires tanks to not equip a single plate or extender and the FG user to have max lvl prof and 2 complex damage mods, and then ONLY on the weak spot.
So unless you are constantly going up against HAVs that don't use plates or extenders, you are full of ****.
I'm not giving you hypothetical scenarios, I'm telling you the only possible way you can one shot an HAV mathematically, and In bullshit fashion you yet again sidestep the fact that you are flat out wrong. |
Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
717
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:39:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Duran Lex wrote:
Yes it can be done, in one single scenario. One that requires tanks to not equip a single plate or extender and the FG user to have max lvl prof and 2 complex damage mods, and then ONLY on the weak spot.
So unless you are constantly going up against HAVs that don't use plates or extenders, you are full of ****.
I'm not giving you hypothetical scenarios, I'm telling you the only possible way you can one shot an HAV mathematically, and In bullshit fashion you yet again sidestep the fact that you are flat out wrong.
Wrong again Ive done it numerous times and the kicker is i only have prof 3 So take your maths and shove it up your arse because your doing it wrong since in game its working for me
Then you aren't one shotting an untouched HAV, you are getting the last shot off for a kill.
There's a difference.
it's literally impossible to one shot an HAV at full ehp outside of the aforementioned scenario.
it's fact. Get over it.
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
717
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:01:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Duran Lex wrote:
Yes it can be done, in one single scenario. One that requires tanks to not equip a single plate or extender and the FG user to have max lvl prof and 2 complex damage mods, and then ONLY on the weak spot.
So unless you are constantly going up against HAVs that don't use plates or extenders, you are full of ****.
I'm not giving you hypothetical scenarios, I'm telling you the only possible way you can one shot an HAV mathematically, and In bullshit fashion you yet again sidestep the fact that you are flat out wrong.
Wrong again Ive done it numerous times and the kicker is i only have prof 3 So take your maths and shove it up your arse because your doing it wrong since in game its working for me Then you aren't one shotting an untouched HAV, you are getting the last shot off for a kill. There's a difference. it's literally impossible to one shot an HAV at full ehp outside of the aforementioned scenario. it's fact. Get over it. Wrong again I am the only 1 who shoots and when its fired the tank blows up and i have done this quite a few times Generally when im aiming at a tank the stats will show up, some tanks have had full hp of both shield and armor, some may just have the shield knocked off but i have killed full HP tanks You may not like it but it has happened
/sigh
It must be an amazing feeling to repeat a lie so many times you actually began believing it.
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