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calvin b Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 1480	Posted - 2014.02.16 09:30:00 - [1] - Quote I was looking at the cost of an LAV and begin to wonder what would happen if a new player was to buy these and loose just 2-3 in a game. That is 40-60K just gone, now add in cost of suit and low ISK payout and you can easily see a new player going broke before they can have fun with the game. Second the cost of a skilled into LAV is high and there to me seems no benefit between a skilled into LAV and militia LAV. I already have a LAV BPO and I am very thankful, but for other players I would love to see them have at least one thing going their way. So CCP can you please bring back the BPO LAV for everyone or at least a way to purchase a BPO Aurum version. A heavy before 1.8
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6846	Posted - 2014.02.16 09:56:00 - [2] - Quote Nope. BPOs are no longer being added except for the possibility of requiring minerals or salvaged components to produce for all future BPOs. In that case, that will just transfer the cost. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 555	Posted - 2014.02.16 09:58:00 - [3] - Quote Won't happen. CCP has come down on BPO's for purchase and the BPO jeep was ridiculous. It was Death Race 2,000 with people using free cars to run people over. The new player can adapt through various ways: Militia Jeeps can be used which are cheaper. Use Drop Uplinks to get into the fight faster rather than using an LAV all the time. Recall. Providing they stop in a location that doesn't have enemies running about, it is just 5 seconds to recall the jeep. It doesn't have to be used like a rental car with full coverage.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4489	Posted - 2014.02.16 10:08:00 - [4] - Quote They need to add single-person unarmed Speeders (as shown at Fanfest) and have a Starter Fit of them that's given as an infinite-use starter fit (NOT a BPO).
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 52	Posted - 2014.02.16 10:12:00 - [5] - Quote Yeah I've certainly got a hell of a lot of use out of my BPO lav, often calling one in right before jumping into somebody else's, just in case a blue needs one. Even just legitimate "for me" uses it must have saved me >40million ISK. But no, my alts that don't have one seem to fare ok. It just becomes a thing of always recalling. There's a reason we don't have BPO dropships. If they bring in a whole thing where you can use BPO's plus raw materials to produce a certain number per day or whatever then that'd be great also. For corp mates it'd probably be free, just give me the materials and you can have a batch. But that's a no from me also.
Callidus Vanus Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 233	Posted - 2014.02.16 10:56:00 - [6] - Quote /emote cuddles his Blood Raider saga BPO. Closed beta bunny, Veteran of Caldari Prime.
Stinker Butt Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 360	Posted - 2014.02.16 10:57:00 - [7] - Quote calvin b wrote: I was looking at the cost of an LAV and begin to wonder what would happen if a new player was to buy these and loose just 2-3 in a game. That is 40-60K just gone, now add in cost of suit and low ISK payout and you can easily see a new player going broke before they can have fun with the game. Second the cost of a skilled into LAV is high and there to me seems no benefit between a skilled into LAV and militia LAV. I already have a LAV BPO and I am very thankful, but for other players I would love to see them have at least one thing going their way. So CCP can you please bring back the BPO LAV for everyone or at least a way to purchase a BPO Aurum version. I liked the old BPO's personally. Easy kills everywhere. But too many people cried because they got ran over. And that's how you win in this game - you cry. But that's another issue. 40 to 60k per lav is kinda high for a starter. militia LAV's start around 18k (I think.) That should be a little easier on a new players wallet. My most expensive LAV is only 76k. Last build it was a little over 200k. I still miss my proto lav though. Crying got those removed too. Please give tanks some balance
Quik Django Nos Nothi 7	Posted - 2014.02.16 11:00:00 - [8] - Quote Oh god no - the LAV spam was bad enough before and now it's still pretty bad when you get in a match with people who bought the Bloodraider's saga and whatnot. LAVs should be a planned for resource, not something that you can just spam willy nilly. Django Quik's alt if you hadn't figured that one out!
Chuckles Brown 43	Posted - 2014.02.16 11:09:00 - [9] - Quote LAVs are rellay weird in this game. The Militia ones cost a good chunk of change, so much that you should recall them instead of treating them as disposable. The STD LAVs have 1 extra respected slot and little more CPU/PG to go along with it, but the same HP as there free SP little brothers (much like HAVs) Using an LAV as a LAV in this game is fun, but not in any practical. Why have a mini-railgun on a LAV driving around wasting people away when you can just fit a militia HAV and do it all yourself? My Hooptie Attack LAV cost 80k+ ISK... My Hooptie II Costs 35k+ ISK... (BPO LAV) The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 288	Posted - 2014.02.16 11:11:00 - [10] - Quote Besides it'll make my second blood boo worth less on open market. Lol Folloe me on Youtube

KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 969	Posted - 2014.02.16 11:16:00 - [11] - Quote Not gonna happen. BPOs are only for packs from PS store. Getting rid of them sucks ISK and possibly AURUM so they are not coming back. F2P doesn't mean reasonable to play. It means we want your money. And so it goes.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2201	Posted - 2014.02.16 11:44:00 - [12] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Not gonna happen. BPOs are only for packs from PS store. Getting rid of them sucks ISK and possibly AURUM so they are not coming back. F2P doesn't mean reasonable to play. It means we want your money. I thought BPOs were removed from the PS stores too? Or at least CCP said they were going to. Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1653	Posted - 2014.02.16 13:22:00 - [13] - Quote I have in my possession LAV BPOs and BPO fittings for them. I can mass produce LAVs for people who want them. If you see me in game and would like a LAV, simply mail me your request and transfer 10k ISK to my account and I will oblige you with a fully fitted LAV at our foot spawn. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2014.02.16 14:14:00 - [14] - Quote There is no need! People like me, spam them for team mates.
Nirwanda Vaughns 344	Posted - 2014.02.16 14:27:00 - [15] - Quote convince 25 idiots to sign up using your recruit link and then bound and gag then and force them to play dudt til they hit 100k wp each and get the recruit lav bpo. its the only one still avail;able for the moment Proto and proud!!
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1416	Posted - 2014.02.16 14:40:00 - [16] - Quote no thanks. bpo lavs created more problems than they solved GÇ£The universe is a big place, perhaps the biggest.GÇ¥ ~ Kurt Vonnegut Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 5191	Posted - 2014.02.16 14:45:00 - [17] - Quote Stinker Butt wrote: I liked the old BPO's personally. Easy kills everywhere. But too many people cried because they got ran over. And that's how you win in this game - you cry. But that's another issue. 40 to 60k per lav is kinda high for a starter. militia LAV's start around 18k (I think.) That should be a little easier on a new players wallet. My most expensive LAV is only 76k. Last build it was a little over 200k. I still miss my proto lav though. Crying got those removed too. You and your LLAV > GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥ -Oscar Wilde
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 802	Posted - 2014.02.16 14:47:00 - [18] - Quote Gurista Saga BPO - double stacked MLT BPO shield booster (Can tank 2 std rail gun shots) I love my gold Corvette Blood raider Saga BPO - MCRU Ishikone (sp?) watch Saga BPO - Shield booster and armor plate All fully fitted with BPO mods, all different, all totally free. I regularly call them in and just leave them for the blues to take. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 273	Posted - 2014.02.16 14:51:00 - [19] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: They need to add single-person unarmed Speeders (as shown at Fanfest) and have a Starter Fit of them that's given as an infinite-use starter fit (NOT a BPO). You know, Starter fits are the same problem as BPOs. I played an FW with a squad of 5, the enemy team used almost nothing but starter fits. Wanna hear about our salvage, I got a Maddy I blew up. 1 thing for 5 people when they were down 70+ clones. Starter fits hurt the economy just as much as BPOs. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Stinker Butt Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 365	Posted - 2014.02.16 14:52:00 - [20] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Stinker Butt wrote: I liked the old BPO's personally. Easy kills everywhere. But too many people cried because they got ran over. And that's how you win in this game - you cry. But that's another issue. 40 to 60k per lav is kinda high for a starter. militia LAV's start around 18k (I think.) That should be a little easier on a new players wallet. My most expensive LAV is only 76k. Last build it was a little over 200k. I still miss my proto lav though. Crying got those removed too. You and your LLAV lol, yeah. that thing was a mini-tank. ahh, the good ole days. This thread actually got me motivated to play around with my LAV build again. I'm going to try something out later. Only 61k isk now and should be even more survivable. We'll see. Please give tanks some balance

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1657	Posted - 2014.02.16 14:57:00 - [21] - Quote The Infected One wrote: Gurista Saga BPO - double stacked MLT BPO shield booster (Can tank 2 std rail gun shots) I love my gold Corvette Blood raider Saga BPO - MCRU Ishikone (sp?) watch Saga BPO - Shield booster and armor plate All fully fitted with BPO mods, all different, all totally free. I regularly call them in and just leave them for the blues to take. You shrewd bastard you. Not only do you get fat off of the silver spoon of PC, you also slit the throats of honest businesspeople trying to help the common merc and make a small profit at the same time. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 112	Posted - 2014.02.16 14:59:00 - [22] - Quote No more BPO. LAV spam was annoying
Sneaky Fletcher Three-body Solution 65	Posted - 2014.02.16 15:39:00 - [23] - Quote The Headless Horseman wrote: There is no need! People like me, spam them for team mates. so you're the guy who spams them and then I'm left waiting on my queued LAV for longer than it's convenient... J/K thou that's cool man but asking for some Isk, selfish as it seems will most likely make blueberries appreciate it even more
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2014.02.16 16:26:00 - [24] - Quote Sneaky Fletcher wrote: The Headless Horseman wrote: There is no need! People like me, spam them for team mates. so you're the guy who spams them and then I'm left waiting on my queued LAV for longer than it's convenient... J/K thou that's cool man but asking for some Isk, selfish as it seems will most likely make blueberries appreciate it even more LoL, I normally do it half way through when it's dead. It also prevents tank spam.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4494	Posted - 2014.02.16 21:01:00 - [25] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: They need to add single-person unarmed Speeders (as shown at Fanfest) and have a Starter Fit of them that's given as an infinite-use starter fit (NOT a BPO). You know, Starter fits are the same problem as BPOs. I played an FW with a squad of 5, the enemy team used almost nothing but starter fits. Wanna hear about our salvage, I got a Maddy I blew up. 1 thing for 5 people when they were down 70+ clones. Starter fits hurt the economy just as much as BPOs. BPOs hurt the PLAYER-RUN economy (you know, that one that doesn't even exist in-game yet? Yeah, that's why they're not doing BPOs any more) because they can be bought, sold and traded in an open market, and setting ANY price for them negates the value of their finite equivalents as long as more BPOs can keep being added into circulation. Starter Fits CAN'T be traded, and thus avoid the problem of breaking the economy that CCP vare about. Which doesn't exist yet, but whatever.


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