DUST Search - Why are they called Prototype? Aside from ISK what are the drawbacks...

Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

lithkul devant wrote:

The OP does have a point though, prototype does in fact mean a thing that has not been tested throughly, not one that has been made millions of times and is in mass use.

I mean, the idea behind prototype gear is that it's not supposed to be in mass use- they're in-house specials, produced in limited numbers, hence the lack of a model number/name, exponentially higher ISK price, and the use of producer designations like Kalaakiota. When we get a proper market soonTM that requires EVE players to produce our gear, prototype gear should become appropriately rare. Unfortunately, for now, our economy is skewed by PlanetaryFarmville resulting in many people having no problem using "prototype" gear all the time.

Relative scarcity would not warrant the Prototype title. Such would be classified as "Elite" or "Custom" gear.
For example, luxury cars are not Prototypes. They are rare because of price alone, but most models are a 2nd or 3rd+ production cycle--- The actual Prototypes are almost never sold except to collectors who do not actually use the vehicles!

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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 592	Posted - 2014.02.16 04:09:00 - [1] - Quote This is one question I've been asking myself for quite some time now. Prototypes are called Prototypes because they are untested, the FIRST of their kind, or need to be developed further, and after they have been around for a while, they are no longer prototypes. aka a 2nd production series of said gear cannot be considered prototypes if nothing has changed. Since the entire tier is named Prototype, it implies that it is a developmental title and that something unwanted can happen while using said equipment, which is still being ironed out through field application, and if so, what are these unwanted traits? Will the suits lock up under certain conditions? Mayhaps they might cause harm to the wearer such as electrical feedback if the shields are mistreated for too long and not allowed to repair the structure of the generators? Anyway, the Label is either incredibly misleading, or incredibly interesting. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2540	Posted - 2014.02.16 04:22:00 - [2] - Quote I always thought that having CPU/PG requirements on Prototype stuff took away from what it should do. You should be able to load a Prototype suit with anything Proto to come up with more crazy, viable fittings. The hindrance of the requirements disallows the main draw of topping out in what should be the most fully customizable frames in the game. Instead, we're forced to use inferior equipment on top tier, top dollar investments. I GÖú Kittens.
Kitt 514 True North. 107	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:11:00 - [3] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I always thought that having CPU/PG requirements on Prototype stuff took away from what it should do. You should be able to load a Prototype suit with anything Proto to come up with more crazy, viable fittings. The hindrance of the requirements disallows the main draw of topping out in what should be the most fully customizable frames in the game. Instead, we're forced to use inferior equipment on top tier, top dollar investments. That is kind of the point. You can't always put everything you want on any suit.
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 143	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:14:00 - [4] - Quote The OP does have a point though, prototype does in fact mean a thing that has not been tested throughly, not one that has been made millions of times and is in mass use.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2275	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:15:00 - [5] - Quote The duvolle catches fire randomly. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 454	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:15:00 - [6] - Quote You're right. Prototype makes no sense.
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 657	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:25:00 - [7] - Quote lithkul devant wrote: The OP does have a point though, prototype does in fact mean a thing that has not been tested throughly, not one that has been made millions of times and is in mass use. I mean, the idea behind prototype gear is that it's not supposed to be in mass use- they're in-house specials, hence the lack of a model number/name, exponentially higher ISK price, and the use of producer designations like Kalaakiota. When we get a proper market soonTM that requires EVE players to produce our gear, prototype gear should become appropriately rare. Unfortunately, for now, our economy is skewed by PlanetaryFarmville resulting in many people having no problem using "prototype" gear all the time.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2545	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:26:00 - [8] - Quote Kitt 514 wrote: Rynoceros wrote: I always thought that having CPU/PG requirements on Prototype stuff took away from what it should do. You should be able to load a Prototype suit with anything Proto to come up with more crazy, viable fittings. The hindrance of the requirements disallows the main draw of topping out in what should be the most fully customizable frames in the game. Instead, we're forced to use inferior equipment on top tier, top dollar investments. That is kind of the point. You can't always put everything you want on any suit. What point? This game is all about the customization of your load outs. Standard and Advanced Dropsuits are for the common merc. Proto should represent the total achievements and preferred style of play. Putting a ceiling on that, at the pinnacle of the grind, removes diversity and makes it a matter of right and wrong. I GÖú Kittens.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4699	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:33:00 - [9] - Quote I want everything handed to me with absolutely no drawbacks.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 595	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:36:00 - [10] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: lithkul devant wrote: The OP does have a point though, prototype does in fact mean a thing that has not been tested throughly, not one that has been made millions of times and is in mass use. I mean, the idea behind prototype gear is that it's not supposed to be in mass use- they're in-house specials, produced in limited numbers, hence the lack of a model number/name, exponentially higher ISK price, and the use of producer designations like Kalaakiota. When we get a proper market soonTM that requires EVE players to produce our gear, prototype gear should become appropriately rare. Unfortunately, for now, our economy is skewed by PlanetaryFarmville resulting in many people having no problem using "prototype" gear all the time. Relative scarcity would not warrant the Prototype title. Such would be classified as "Elite" or "Custom" gear. For example, luxury cars are not Prototypes. They are rare because of price alone, but most models are a 2nd or 3rd+ production cycle--- The actual Prototypes are almost never sold except to collectors who do not actually use the vehicles! If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming

Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1751	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:37:00 - [11] - Quote This post raises a question I think would help balance New v Old. I'm cool with the straight linear progression from STD to ADV, with proto having a flaw, or randomly have a messup, to balance its improvements. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 657	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:39:00 - [12] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Awry Barux wrote: lithkul devant wrote: The OP does have a point though, prototype does in fact mean a thing that has not been tested throughly, not one that has been made millions of times and is in mass use. I mean, the idea behind prototype gear is that it's not supposed to be in mass use- they're in-house specials, produced in limited numbers, hence the lack of a model number/name, exponentially higher ISK price, and the use of producer designations like Kalaakiota. When we get a proper market soonTM that requires EVE players to produce our gear, prototype gear should become appropriately rare. Unfortunately, for now, our economy is skewed by PlanetaryFarmville resulting in many people having no problem using "prototype" gear all the time. Relative scarcity would not warrant the Prototype title. Such would be classified as "Elite" or "Custom" gear. For example, luxury cars are not Prototypes. They are rare because of price alone, but most models are a 2nd or 3rd+ production cycle--- The actual Prototypes are almost never sold except to collectors who do not actually use the vehicles! Hm, fair enough. I now theorize that CCP just picked it so the 3-letter designation could be PRO.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 457	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:43:00 - [13] - Quote Well following eve sence Proto type moduals, suits, weapons are the precurser to Tech II items, usualy slightly less efficant but with lower fitting requirments. They are caled prototype because they arnt the finished version, but they WHERE the proto type for the finished version of Tech II so being the proto type they carry similar stats, tho sometimes some experimental tewaks that could be usuful but didnt make itto the final design.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 595	Posted - 2014.02.16 06:34:00 - [14] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Hm, fair enough. I now theorize that CCP just picked it so the 3-letter designation could be PRO. You could get that same abbreviation if you named it something like "PRime Operations" equipment. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming


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