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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.15 21:47:00 -
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Hagintora wrote:Atiim wrote:Vehicle hulls (especially HAVs) are tiericided, and techicided. All of your STD, ADV, and PRO turrets & modules are all fitted onto the same hull, and the extra benifits (such as CPU/PG) come from core skills. Balanced is achieved by balancing AV weapons not around the hull itself, but what gear is fitted onto the hull.
- MLT/STD AV = MLT // Basic Modules
- ADV AV = Enhanced Modules
- PRO AV = Complex Modules
Tiercided AV sounds good, but then you'd have to have an actual incentive to spend SP on more than just tier 1 (STD) gear, otherwise you run into the problem that vehicles have currently. Ok, so vehicle hulls aren't going to have ADV or PRO versions? Seems a little a little odd, considering the rest of the game, but alright.
The rest of the game is half the problem, not vehicles. The rest of it is balance issues.
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:48:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Ideally, wouldn't the tiercided/technicided AV weapon/vehicle hull skills provide some form of bonus like that of the Core Skills/Weapon Operation at the moment instead of providing access to simply better weapons? So, for example, a Level 3 Swarm Launcher user would get "15% reduced lock-on time" over the "5% reduced lock-on time" of the Level 1 Swarm Launcher user, or the "0% reduced lock-on time" of the militia Swarm Launcher user.
Is that what you are driving at Attim? If so, I could definitely get behind something in that vein.
No, and it's techcided.
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:51:00 -
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Hagintora wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:[quote=Hagintora]Problem is we were against proto suits/mods and AV weapons and the proto AV weapons That's my point. If Vehicles are only at MLT/STD then that's where AV needs to be too. But as Atiim pointed out, you guy's seem to Tiericided, which makes me wonder if that's not the problem. Since your slot count doesn't change, and neither does your CPU/PG (barring Mods, of course), you can always fit the same amount of things onto your tank; the only thing that changes is the quality of what you put on (MLT/STD/ADV/PRO). But Dropsuits lose CPU/PG and Slot Count further down the chain they go, making them less viable as AV. It seems like part of the problem, at least from what I've been told so far in this thread, is that we have two completely different systems at play. Tanks cannot be balanced according to how Dropsuits function.
..... Yea, that's the point of my post. It's dropsuits, not vehicles that is making the problem worse. Anywys, there's more problems than just that.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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