DUST Search - new player advise please

Vrain Matari wrote:

A few disorganized points for the OP, and welcome to New Eden. Things can be fairly frakked up around here but there's real beauty under the scar tissue.

1) There's a lot of peeps in this game who can slay in a pure militia fitting with not a single skillpoint spent, so don't get sucked into the better gear mindset. Yes it makes a difference but your skill, intel & tactics make a hella more difference and are a a lot cheaper. If you're doing things right you should be dripping with ISK in fairly short order.

2) Gank means a lot more than tank in this game, so if your skillset is good enough to ameliorate incoming fire i'd lean towards getting more damage on them. Best bang for the buck here is prolly advanced weapon with the best damage mod you can fit(they don't scale linearly). If you're specced into Ammarian assaults the SCR is a no-brainer, otherwise the CR/ACR hits hard out to medium range and has nice fitting stats. RR is the long range beast at the moment. Remember before investing too much that CCP can and will most likely nerf things right out from under you.

3) You live and die by intel. This means profile dampening for defense, both the passive skill and modules. If you're running solo it's worth thinking about an advanced/proto scanner.

4) Maintain focus on getting you specific role skills up, anything left over put into the core passive armor/shield/fitting/biotics skills. Remember that it take as many sp to go from lvl 4 to 5 as from lvl 0 to 4.

5) Imo it's worth investing a little bit, once you've got a solid STD/ADV main role, in an uplink scout. Militia suit is fine for this - those uplinks will earn you lots of juicy warpoint and more importantly allow you to help out your team or even turn the tide of battle. Given that you're military you'll prolly see the bad **** coming before many of your teammates do and your uplinks can pre-emptivly save you team from a redline if that suits your playstyle.

Happy hunting, Cmdr o7

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Cmdr Wolfe Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:18:00 - [1] - Quote hi all, as i am waiting to save up for my ps4, i thought id download dust 514 and test it out as saw it advertised on facebook, im a big battlefield 3 player and wanted to jump on these forums as soon as i could.. so do you guys have any advise for a new player coming into dust? ..im just learning the ins and outs of the game at the moment and some players really helped me yesterday with training and isk etc.. i have military experience and play on the ground with a lot of teamwork, id really like to take advantage of the squad aspects in this game also looking for a clan/corp :) thanks for your time, -mike
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9475	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:19:00 - [2] - Quote I told you to post this in rookie training grounds. Post an 'LF corp' in corporation recruitment and include that you have a mic and there'll be a bunch of decent corps happy to pick you up, by the way. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6515	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:27:00 - [3] - Quote Popped your likes cherry Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1244	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:29:00 - [4] - Quote GTFO before its too late! Edit: Play with militia rail tanks (sica fit with armor plates and rail damage mods) to gain ISK. Do not spend skill points yet. Drop it like its hat.
Cmdr Wolfe Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:38:00 - [5] - Quote arkkena and cat merc, were the great players who helped me out by the way^^ haha ;)
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1244	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:43:00 - [6] - Quote Also, you should use militia amarr heavy suit until you specialize. Use it with a recruiter BPO assault rifle or some other good rifle: CR, RR, ScR. These two tactics are pretty lame, but valid for a new player that has to survive in this harsh game IMO. Drop it like its hat.
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 327	Posted - 2014.02.15 13:12:00 - [7] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: hi all, as i am waiting to save up for my ps4, i thought id download dust 514 and test it out as saw it advertised on facebook, im a big battlefield 3 player and wanted to jump on these forums as soon as i could.. so do you guys have any advise for a new player coming into dust? ..im just learning the ins and outs of the game at the moment and some players really helped me yesterday with training and isk etc.. i have military experience and play on the ground with a lot of teamwork, id really like to take advantage of the squad aspects in this game also looking for a clan/corp :) thanks for your time, -mike Specialise! And get into a corp and squad up, you can get a proto weapon(dont use it, use the stats) and an advance suit within the first day of playing. Only other thing that will bug you will fighting against organised squads, make your own and call in some OP's! Good luck! Gÿé Syeven 514
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1576	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:04:00 - [8] - Quote A few disorganized points for the OP, and welcome to New Eden. Things can be fairly frakked up around here but there's real beauty under the scar tissue. 1) There's a lot of peeps in this game who can slay in a pure militia fitting with not a single skillpoint spent, so don't get sucked into the better gear mindset. Yes it makes a difference bit your skill, intel & tactics make a hella more difference and are a a lot cheaper. If you're doing things right you should be dripping with ISK in fairly short order. 2) Gank means a lot more than tank in this game, so if your skillset is good enough to ameliorate incoming fire i'd lean towards getting more damage on them. Best bang for the buck here is prolly advanced weapon with the best damage mod you can fit(they don't scale linearly). If you're specced into Ammarian assaults the SCR is a no-brainer, otherwise the CR/ACR hits hard out to medium range and has nice fitting stats. RR is the long range beast at the moment. Remember before investing too much that CCP can and will most likely nerf things right out from under you. 3) You live and die by intel. This means profile dampening for defense, both the passive skill and modules. If you're running solo it's worth thinking about an advanced/proto scanner. 4) Maintain focus on getting you specific role skills up, anything left over put into the core passive armor/shield/fitting/biotics skills. Remember that it take as many sp to go from lvl 4 to 5 as from lvl 0 to 4. 5) Imo it's worth investing a little bit, once you've got a solid STD/ADV main role, in an uplink scout. Militia suit is fine for this - those uplinks will earn you lots of juicy warpoint and more importantly allow you to help out your team or even turn the tide of battle. Given that you're military you'll prolly see the bad **** coming before many of your teammates do and your uplinks can pre-emptivly save you team from a redline if that suits your playstyle. Happy hunting, Cmdr o7 I support SP rollover.
Delilah Judge-Slayer Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:10:00 - [9] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: hi all, as i am waiting to save up for my ps4, i thought id download dust 514 and test it out as saw it advertised on facebook, im a big battlefield 3 player and wanted to jump on these forums as soon as i could.. so do you guys have any advise for a new player coming into dust? ..im just learning the ins and outs of the game at the moment and some players really helped me yesterday with training and isk etc.. i have military experience and play on the ground with a lot of teamwork, id really like to take advantage of the squad aspects in this game also looking for a clan/corp :) thanks for your time, -mike Go play something else.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1032	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:12:00 - [10] - Quote run militia until you figure out what you want to specialize in, may take a few days/weeks join a corp get in good squads ask questions as you go profit.

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 448	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:15:00 - [11] - Quote Hi Mike, Take a look at the "rookie training grounds" forum for lots and lots of tips. You might want to join our public channel "#sand castles" and squad up with some of our guys. Good luck in your education....Leadfoot
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2513	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:19:00 - [12] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: arkkena and cat merc, were the great players who helped me out by the way^^ haha ;) They're pretty ******* awesome. Consistently. Cat Merc does all the thinking, so I don't have to. Arkena is probably responsible for Gàô of my Likes. I have only seen Cat Merc in a match twice. I killed him once, just to say "Hi!" the other time I turned away and let him be. Arkena, I have yet to see in-game, but would receive the same treatment. The Dust community is full of self-servicing buttnuggets, but there a some really great members that make it all worthwhile. I GÖú Kittens.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6519	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:26:00 - [13] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Cmdr Wolfe wrote: arkkena and cat merc, were the great players who helped me out by the way^^ haha ;) They're pretty ******* awesome. Consistently. Cat Merc does all the thinking, so I don't have to. Arkena is probably responsible for Gàô of my Likes. I have only seen Cat Merc in a match twice. I killed him once, just to say "Hi!" the other time I turned away and let him be. Arkena, I have yet to see in-game, but would receive the same treatment. The Dust community is full of self-servicing buttnuggets, but there a some really great members that make it all worthwhile. <3 Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 604	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:30:00 - [14] - Quote Advice- use a militia minmitar med frame, with 3x damage mods and a combat rifle+scrambler pistol or, even better use a militia gallente farm with 2x armor plates, and 1x reactive with a rail rifle Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9482	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:32:00 - [15] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Cmdr Wolfe wrote: arkkena and cat merc, were the great players who helped me out by the way^^ haha ;) They're pretty ******* awesome. Consistently. Cat Merc does all the thinking, so I don't have to. Arkena is probably responsible for Gàô of my Likes. I have only seen Cat Merc in a match twice. I killed him once, just to say "Hi!" the other time I turned away and let him be. Arkena, I have yet to see in-game, but would receive the same treatment. The Dust community is full of self-servicing buttnuggets, but there a some really great members that make it all worthwhile. <3 ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Cmdr Wolfe Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 10	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:34:00 - [16] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: A few disorganized points for the OP, and welcome to New Eden. Things can be fairly frakked up around here but there's real beauty under the scar tissue. 1) There's a lot of peeps in this game who can slay in a pure militia fitting with not a single skillpoint spent, so don't get sucked into the better gear mindset. Yes it makes a difference but your skill, intel & tactics make a hella more difference and are a a lot cheaper. If you're doing things right you should be dripping with ISK in fairly short order. 2) Gank means a lot more than tank in this game, so if your skillset is good enough to ameliorate incoming fire i'd lean towards getting more damage on them. Best bang for the buck here is prolly advanced weapon with the best damage mod you can fit(they don't scale linearly). If you're specced into Ammarian assaults the SCR is a no-brainer, otherwise the CR/ACR hits hard out to medium range and has nice fitting stats. RR is the long range beast at the moment. Remember before investing too much that CCP can and will most likely nerf things right out from under you. 3) You live and die by intel. This means profile dampening for defense, both the passive skill and modules. If you're running solo it's worth thinking about an advanced/proto scanner. 4) Maintain focus on getting you specific role skills up, anything left over put into the core passive armor/shield/fitting/biotics skills. Remember that it take as many sp to go from lvl 4 to 5 as from lvl 0 to 4. 5) Imo it's worth investing a little bit, once you've got a solid STD/ADV main role, in an uplink scout. Militia suit is fine for this - those uplinks will earn you lots of juicy warpoint and more importantly allow you to help out your team or even turn the tide of battle. Given that you're military you'll prolly see the bad **** coming before many of your teammates do and your uplinks can pre-emptivly save you team from a redline if that suits your playstyle. Happy hunting, Cmdr o7 thanks Vrain great heads up :) will be spending sp wisely^ o/
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1148	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:37:00 - [17] - Quote Most important advice for new Dust players is don't let the ***s in the forums get you down. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus*
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6521	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:47:00 - [18] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Advice- use a militia minmitar med frame, with 3x damage mods and a combat rifle+scrambler pistol or, even better use a militia gallente farm with 2x armor plates, and 1x reactive with a rail rifle And regenerate at 1hp/s? Are you joking? It's obvious you're not an armor tanker. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 670	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:06:00 - [19] - Quote Ah, fresh meat Who wants some?
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 324	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:12:00 - [20] - Quote are you looking to join a strong minmatar corp? CARBON 7 welcomes ALL minmatar brothers/sisters with open arms. i love helping new players. look me up if you join and id be happy to help you along.

R F Gyro Clones 4u 1152	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:19:00 - [21] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: are you looking to join a strong minmatar corp? CARBON 7 welcomes ALL minmatar brothers/sisters with open arms. i love helping new players. look me up if you join and id be happy to help you along. I've run with C7 a few times and they're good people, but maybe this should be discussed in the corp recruitment forums. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Cmdr Wolfe Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 14	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:21:00 - [22] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: are you looking to join a strong minmatar corp? CARBON 7 welcomes ALL minmatar brothers/sisters with open arms. i love helping new players. look me up if you join and id be happy to help you along. i actually quite like the look of all the minmatar gear and weapons, looks the most realistic however im not familar with the lore side of the race? are they good or bad?.. im not interested if il be joining some bullies lol :P i have skilled into to Combat rifle and minamtar assault thou so i may not have a choice... lol o/
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6522	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:26:00 - [23] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: are you looking to join a strong minmatar corp? CARBON 7 welcomes ALL minmatar brothers/sisters with open arms. i love helping new players. look me up if you join and id be happy to help you along. i actually quite like the look of all the minmatar gear and weapons, looks the most realistic however im not familar with the lore side of the race? are they good or bad?.. im not interested if il be joining some bullies lol :P i have skilled into to Combat rifle and minamtar assault thou so i may not have a choice... lol o/ There is no "good' or "bad" in the four factions. All factions have corruption deep inside, and all factions have a good side and a bad side. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 671	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:28:00 - [24] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: are you looking to join a strong minmatar corp? CARBON 7 welcomes ALL minmatar brothers/sisters with open arms. i love helping new players. look me up if you join and id be happy to help you along. i actually quite like the look of all the minmatar gear and weapons, looks the most realistic however im not familar with the lore side of the race? are they good or bad?.. im not interested if il be joining some bullies lol :P i have skilled into to Combat rifle and minamtar assault thou so i may not have a choice... lol o/ they are pretend bullies. In faction warfare its broken right now. So they flock to it because there is no competition. When a real team shows they come here and cry about the the same thing that they do day in day out, gang up on new guys. Who wants some?
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 325	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:32:00 - [25] - Quote minmatar as a race are the "good". were the former slaves and amarr are the "evil" religious nuts, who took us from our home world long ago. hers the best place to start if you're intersted in the eve/dust lore http://www.eveonline.com/creations/fiction/
Orion Sanjeet Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 31	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:43:00 - [26] - Quote Minmatar backstory: We were slaves to the Amarr, then smacked up the Amarr and left while flipping the bird at their crazy ass psycho of an empress and started our own republic. Watch out while in the merc quarters if you haven't had your tetnis shot, in rust we trust. Now on a different note, if you decide on going as a medic/triage class logistic role then get proto rep tool asap, for pub games you don't need anything more than a basic cr, then double tank shield and armor with high reps since the point of this role is to be hyper survivable so you can last as long as possible while keeping every one else stocked on ammo and the person you are attached to alive while under heavy fire(this requires a very competent heavy or armor tanked slayer), or you could just contact me as that would be quicker to explain. However only if you are interested less in killing and more in supporting.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1577	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:45:00 - [27] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: are you looking to join a strong minmatar corp? CARBON 7 welcomes ALL minmatar brothers/sisters with open arms. i love helping new players. look me up if you join and id be happy to help you along. i actually quite like the look of all the minmatar gear and weapons, looks the most realistic however im not familar with the lore side of the race? are they good or bad?.. im not interested if il be joining some bullies lol :P i have skilled into to Combat rifle and minamtar assault thou so i may not have a choice... lol o/ CCP love nebulous morality, every race has a past that contains darkness. In the case of us Minmatar, however, anything you perpetrate on the Ammarians is fair game. Your should see my scalp collection - best reason to carry a nova knife right there imo ;) I support SP rollover.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 89	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:49:00 - [28] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: hi all, as i am waiting to save up for my ps4, i thought id download dust 514 and test it out as saw it advertised on facebook, im a big battlefield 3 player and wanted to jump on these forums as soon as i could.. so do you guys have any advise for a new player coming into dust? ..im just learning the ins and outs of the game at the moment and some players really helped me yesterday with training and isk etc.. i have military experience and play on the ground with a lot of teamwork, id really like to take advantage of the squad aspects in this game also looking for a clan/corp :) thanks for your time, -mike welcome to dust. Caldari Loyalist
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 158	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:03:00 - [29] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: hi all, as i am waiting to save up for my ps4, i thought id download dust 514 and test it out as saw it advertised on facebook, im a big battlefield 3 player and wanted to jump on these forums as soon as i could.. so do you guys have any advise for a new player coming into dust? ..im just learning the ins and outs of the game at the moment and some players really helped me yesterday with training and isk etc.. i have military experience and play on the ground with a lot of teamwork, id really like to take advantage of the squad aspects in this game also looking for a clan/corp :) thanks for your time, -mike I have 2 answers foor you 1 positive and 1 negative. On 1 hand Id like to say just find a corp .Get to know those guys and keep trying.Ask questions and read everything in the game about modules and there descriptions.Specialize in one role at first and stick with it .Dont throw your sp everywhere unless you want to play LOGI. And on the other hand Id say the more you play the more you become invested the more cynical and jaded you become. Because just when you think it couldn't get any worse they change ** around on you and by they I mean CCP .The nerf weapons into the ground.Hype up content they never bring out and this game probably wont be on PS4.So in the end all your grinding effort will be for nothing. But they could always prove me wrong....who knows. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 64	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:07:00 - [30] - Quote This game has a horrible community and complains every time someone kills them. Put minimum points into combat Rifle and rail rifle. The CR is good up close, you hip fire it. The rail rifle is good at a distance. you aim the RR. Take either cheap medium or light suits, equip a drop uplink so you can set spawn points, one of the above rifles, and militia grenades. This will generate about 1000 WP per match. If you use a militia AR this will bring the cost down to 1700 ISK per set, and you can die like 40 or 50 times a match and still make a ton of ISK and SP. But seriously, OP, remember DUST is a free game, and don't expect too much. Also remember that the entire dev team was sacked 7 months or so ago, and everyone is still new.



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