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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.15 03:52:00 -
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High ROF, check
Tigh hipfire, check
Fast reload, check
Good hit detection, check.
Low CPU\PG, check
Yep, everything looks in order. For better or worse, the CR seems to have replaced the Shotgun in a lot of Scout arsenals.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
4564
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Posted - 2014.02.15 03:54:00 -
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Rifles in general have replaced niche weapons, barring the forge.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1207
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Posted - 2014.02.15 03:55:00 -
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True. Sad, but true. That rifle is now one of the best, if not the best scout weapon.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2230
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Posted - 2014.02.15 03:57:00 -
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Yup.
CR+NK=best combo
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
210
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:04:00 -
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I can confirm that the CR has replaced my shotty in most of my fits. |
Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
946
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:08:00 -
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It's a great scout weapon, it outranges the short ranged weapons, has an extremely tight hipfire, and you can put enough alpha up to drop anything short of a heavy before they figure out where you are.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1879
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:09:00 -
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Another factor that play into this shift as well
Range
In the current environment range > Alpha damage
Something else is that the CR is quieter than the other RiflesGǪ RR would serve well spool up is irrelevant when you have surprise, but the noise alerts everybody around that you are there.
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
191
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:12:00 -
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I certainly use CR + NK or SMG on my Minja character. Great for flanking, getting in and getting out. I still use the SG (and the BAR, you know, for the lulz) on my Galscout char. Why do the Gallente "specialty" weapons require Light Weapon 4? If one could get out of the Militia SG a little more easily, you might see more of them. |
Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
453
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:17:00 -
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Conferming the CR has replaced the shotgun on almost all my scout suits. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
3625
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:28:00 -
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Ultimate? No.
Most versitile? I'd say so.
There are better weapons for close quarters environments and better weapons for open areas. It just depends on the map. Most engagements happen within the combats rifle's area of expertise though so it does very well.
Plus nobody shield tanks so most are like butter.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
366
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:29:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Ultimate? No.
Most versitile? I'd say so.
There are better weapons for close quarters environments and better weapons for open areas. It just depends on the map. Most engagements happen within the combats rifle's area of expertise though so it does very well.
Plus nobody shield tanks so most are like butter.
Cant wait til 1.8 then...
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
221
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:41:00 -
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Love it. I run CR on all my scout fits. The hipfire is amazing.
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
504
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:42:00 -
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seeing as i prefer my lvl ops 3 CR to my proF3 shotty(every shoty fit is now CR),id have to say yes.shotty is a POS and a liability to use i CQC with how much damage dropoff it gets in CQC,unlike CR
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
Zero-Day
569
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:45:00 -
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Yup. BPO scout + STD CR + 2x MLT dampeners + REs = about 10k a suit and so much more fun than my logi. |
Yan Darn
DUST University
Ivy League
220
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:55:00 -
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I've just to gone Shotty to replace my AR - Shotty is fine with 1lv (despite its obvious weaknesses). I'm not sure CR would be without investment. Plus I figure I'm not gonna skill up any weapon until they are all available and been through a patch.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
1255
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Posted - 2014.02.15 05:04:00 -
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Maybe for Minjas. Try a rail rifle on a Ganja with 2 range amps (73m radius, soon to be 76m). You are ALWAYS in the sweet spot, if you playit right. It's a beautiful thing.
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DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
179
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Posted - 2014.02.15 05:05:00 -
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Sg has WAYYYY too many flaws, the amount of times it gets me killed blows my mind, knives also has hit detection issues due to lag or w/e, cr is dependable |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1096
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Posted - 2014.02.15 05:09:00 -
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I still use shotgun and do fairly well with it.
On my NK fit, I use a pistol.
I barely use Rifles so I'm not that good with them. I'll try the CR and NK combo some other time. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1096
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Posted - 2014.02.15 05:10:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:I've just to gone Shotty to replace my AR - Shotty is fine with 1lv (despite its obvious weaknesses). I'm not sure CR would be without investment. Plus I figure I'm not gonna skill up any weapon until they are all available and been through a patch.
CR OP 1 is... OP
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
3209
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Posted - 2014.02.15 05:11:00 -
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Not shocking since the CR is a beast when used by the right hands. But that information is classified.
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Texs Red
DUST University
Ivy League
214
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Posted - 2014.02.15 05:18:00 -
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The shotgun is still quite potent, I have great fun with it in the Gallente Research lab complex. It's a niche weapon though so clearly a rifle is far more versatile. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
944
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Posted - 2014.02.15 05:25:00 -
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Shotgun for city area, been wrecking with my K5 specialist on a standard frame. as seen here
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Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
95
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Posted - 2014.02.15 21:26:00 -
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I am stubborn, still use the shotgun as my main lol. Breach shotguns need the most tweaking and the regular variants could use a slight one.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
IMMORTAL REGIME
867
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Posted - 2014.02.15 21:29:00 -
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Funny enough, i was having my mind blown on what to choose between shotgun prof or combat prof, at the end i know which is highly gonna get nerfed and so my specialty kicked in so i went shotgun... turned out 39/8, 29/8 and 15/3 which i don't think is terrible and no way would i get as much kills from that combat rifle.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
607
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Posted - 2014.02.15 21:33:00 -
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almost 2x dps, ludicrously low fitting costs, more than 10x the range, a great scope, amazing hip fire, better aim assist, and a better damage profile.
Why do we use the shotgun again?
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Vesperz
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
32
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Posted - 2014.02.15 21:39:00 -
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Hell nah! I still rock my shotty. Shotgunner 4 lyfe. 
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
170
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Posted - 2014.02.15 21:44:00 -
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I do use the CR on my scout sometimes, but I prefer to rock the ScR. There is a weird thrill knowing every time I pull the trigger, I am one shot closer to overheating and killing myself. It makes me aim better.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
304
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:21:00 -
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I actually picked up the scrambler rifle again...dont like the overheat but i can work with it...
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
712
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:25:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Ultimate? No.
Most versitile? I'd say so.
There are better weapons for close quarters environments and better weapons for open areas. It just depends on the map. Most engagements happen within the combats rifle's area of expertise though so it does very well.
Plus nobody shield tanks so most are like butter.
Yay, finally someone else sees that what is really great about the CR is it is the most versatile rifle. Good in almost all situations, best in none. And yes it is super easy to fit. But I don't think that in and of itself makes it OP
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
712
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:27:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:almost 2x dps, ludicrously low fitting costs, more than 10x the range, a great scope, amazing hip fire, better aim assist, and a better damage profile.
Why do we use the shotgun again?
Because DPS isn't everything, the shotty may have lower DPS but it applies all its DPS instantly as opposed to over several shots. CR is a great weapon but so is the shotgun they are apples and oranges though.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
679
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:27:00 -
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I equally use my shotty and CR.
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Bormir1r
WarRavens
League of Infamy
60
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Posted - 2014.02.15 23:00:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:High ROF, check
Tigh hipfire, check
Fast reload, check
Good hit detection, check.
Low CPU\PG, check
Yep, everything looks in order. For better or worse, the CR seems to have replaced the Shotgun in a lot of Scout arsenals.
Definitely true, I switch around with my SG and SMG v. CR and NK fits, where the SG fit can almost exclusively be used in certain maps (city) while the CR fit can be used virtually everywhere.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4043
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Posted - 2014.02.15 23:13:00 -
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Don't forget range.
However, shotguns are cheaper (standard is all you need), and can be reloaded ultra-fast.
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.02.15 23:49:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Sg has WAYYYY too many flaws, the amount of times it gets me killed blows my mind, knives also has hit detection issues due to lag or w/e, cr is dependable
True that man, I can't hit anything with them short of captured civilians at point blank, and even then It takes a good 3 hits.
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DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
182
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:03:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Yan Darn wrote:I've just to gone Shotty to replace my AR - Shotty is fine with 1lv (despite its obvious weaknesses). I'm not sure CR would be without investment. Plus I figure I'm not gonna skill up any weapon until they are all available and been through a patch. CR OP 1 is... OP LOL
Lol you just tried it out first time? I use a basic with pro4 it decimates |
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