DUST Search - Proof the RR is OP - Proto Breach AR vs. standard RR

Texs Red wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

People using DPS math to decide if a weapon is good or not are insane.

IT IS A FACTOR BUT (the BREACH AR sucks,there is no denying it):

There is a difference between Optimal DPS and conistency to apply it.

Great example is the ASCR that misses lost of shots due to unreasonable kick and flash.
and The SCR RIFLE that if it misses the first charged shot ends up having less DPS than every sidearm bar the FP.

I prefer consistency of DPS than Max POSSIBLE DPS.

There is where the AR comes in, the AR is by far the best weapon because you can ACTUALLY HIT ALL 60 BULLETS IN A ROW, with consistency, sometimes only by Hipfiring...

I can apply better hipfire DPS with my RR than my AR, it has a hipfire cone that is just tight enough that even at 15-20 meter I still get great damage application. At those ranges I would have to aim down sights with my AR which would make me even more vulnerable to the RR due to slower movement and his greater mobility.

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KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4614	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:29:00 - [1] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They said they were gonna nerf it why are you still complaining NOT ONLY THIS. But you are comparing a Gallente Cheap knockoff of a Caldari Main Riffle,with the actual REAL DEAL. Doesnt seem very fair. Compare it to other main rifles,like the SCR or CR..... Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4620	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:06:00 - [2] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They said they were gonna nerf it why are you still complaining NOT ONLY THIS. But you are comparing a Gallente Cheap knockoff of a Caldari Main Riffle,with the actual REAL DEAL. Doesnt seem very fair. Compare it to other main rifles,like the SCR or CR..... What you all fail to realize is that the Assault variants of the AR are as good if not better than the AR itself. So why is the Breach AR not comparable to the RR? LOL not really . If i can go 35-5 with a Toxin AR with prof 3 and nothing else so can everybody. But people like running in the middle of open areas and start gun fights with RR users that are 70mts away... XD AR is the best of the Plasma rifles. Keep the fight inside the 30-40mts , hipfire and lulz .... Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4621	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:24:00 - [3] - Quote Nosid Katona wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: They said they were gonna nerf it why are you still complaining NOT ONLY THIS. But you are comparing a Gallente Cheap knockoff of a Caldari Main Riffle,with the actual REAL DEAL. Doesnt seem very fair. Compare it to other main rifles,like the SCR or CR..... Alright then why don't we compare the assault variants of the other rifles to the PR, cause the TAC, Burst, and Breach are all cheap knockoffs right? Would only stand to reason that the other races knockoffs are just as "cheap" as ours are of their rifles right? -_- True, the ASCR is a piece of crap compared to the Duvolle. Quote: ''Yo, I meant that why are the Assault variants of the other rifles (ASCR, ACR, ARR) just as good if not better than the AR? Shouldn't they be worse?'' -AZTEC Well, THe Asault RR is pretty beasty,probably SAME as an AR. But the Assault CR , even the six kin is not as effective as the duvolle. and Needs reload/eats ammo way to frequently/fast. As i stated before, the ASCR is a joke compared to the DVLLE.If you consider you will never apply full DPS since the rifle jumps more than my bed on a Saturday night (if you know what i mean) and after the shields are gone you will be applying a meres 80% , 95% with Prof 5 (but after 1.8 it will stay at 80%). Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4622	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:39:00 - [4] - Quote People using DPS math to decide if a weapon is good or not are insane. IT IS A FACTOR BUT (the BREACH AR sucks,there is no denying it): There is a difference between Optimal DPS and conistency to apply it. Great example is the ASCR that misses lost of shots due to unreasonable kick and flash. and The SCR RIFLE that if it misses the first charged shot ends up having less DPS than every sidearm bar the FP. I prefer consistency of DPS than Max POSSIBLE DPS. There is where the AR comes in, the AR is by far the best weapon because you can ACTUALLY HIT ALL 60 BULLETS IN A ROW, with consistency, sometimes only by Hipfiring... Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4622	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:49:00 - [5] - Quote Texs Red wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: People using DPS math to decide if a weapon is good or not are insane. IT IS A FACTOR BUT (the BREACH AR sucks,there is no denying it): There is a difference between Optimal DPS and conistency to apply it. Great example is the ASCR that misses lost of shots due to unreasonable kick and flash. and The SCR RIFLE that if it misses the first charged shot ends up having less DPS than every sidearm bar the FP. I prefer consistency of DPS than Max POSSIBLE DPS. There is where the AR comes in, the AR is by far the best weapon because you can ACTUALLY HIT ALL 60 BULLETS IN A ROW, with consistency, sometimes only by Hipfiring... I can apply better hipfire DPS with my RR than my AR, it has a hipfire cone that is just tight enough that even at 15-20 meter I still get great damage application. At those ranges I would have to aim down sights with my AR which would make me even more vulnerable to the RR due to slower movement and his greater mobility. True true. But still the Ar is a lot better at CQ. Im NOT TALKING the = ''oh i find an enemy and stand there receiving RR shots to the face while i hipfire my AR at the roof and then come to the Forums to QQ on how the RR is the best weapon at CQ,'' kind of CQ of course.... I am willing to prove how a profile dampened assault with an AR can pretty much wreck anything... Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4622	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:51:00 - [6] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You do realize the kick is all visual, right? They do the same thing in COD, they make it appear that the kick of the weapon makes it inaccurate but the kick reset is so fast that as long as you do not try to compensate, then the shots will land close together. It's just a mind trick, like when they make running with nova knives look faster than ruining with the Swarm Launcher. Well if its Visual it still makes me miss like 30% of my shots .... XD (BTW no i didnt know that) Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4622	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:54:00 - [7] - Quote Anyhow , comparing the Breach AR that is one of the most UP weapons in the game vs the RR,one of the most powerful and solid weapons is just....not the way to go. It makes people miss the point. Next thing you know i'll make a post that says: ''Breach AR is OP. Compared to the FP.'' LOL And the fact they are both , slow automatic weapons is no base to compare them. PLUS> CCP announced a BRCH buff and a RR nerf so there.... stop it XD Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029