DUST Search - Assault and Logi changes in 1.8. ¿Yes or no?

Myron Kundera wrote:

hoo! (pt 2 of 2)

EDIT: Now, with something useful:

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level.
- Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level.
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.

Logistics [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of equipment]
- Caldari Logistics: +10% to nanohive max. nanites and +5% to supply rate and repair amount per level.
- Gallente Logistics: +10% to active scanner visibility duration and +5% to active scanner precision per level.
- Minmatar Logistics: +10% to repair tool range and 5% to repair amount per level.
- Amarr Logistics: 10% reduction to drop uplink spawn time and +2 to max. spawn count per level.

CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

I would love some opinions on the Gallente Assault. Oops

Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029

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Myron Kundera The Generals General Tso's Alliance 31	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:59:00 - [1] - Quote hoo! (pt 2 of 2) EDIT: Now, with something useful: Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons] - Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level. - Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level. - Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level. - Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level. Logistics [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of equipment] - Caldari Logistics: +10% to nanohive max. nanites and +5% to supply rate and repair amount per level. - Gallente Logistics: +10% to active scanner visibility duration and +5% to active scanner precision per level. - Minmatar Logistics: +10% to repair tool range and 5% to repair amount per level. - Amarr Logistics: 10% reduction to drop uplink spawn time and +2 to max. spawn count per level. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian I would love some opinions on the Gallente Assault. "Greed, the forgotten mental disease" "Spray and pray makes my day" "Will use proto gear in self defense"
Horizen Kenpachi Kenpachi's Castle 161	Posted - 2014.02.14 00:14:00 - [2] - Quote Its all really bad me no liky liky assult will need epic stat changes to buff it to compare with its piers and logi is a joke who wants to hold a repper anymore ccp u killed real logistics why do i have to go proto to still be a shadow of what my loginess should be. Im thinking if they give respects im going full vehicle specalist like i was pre 1.7 not happy with the nerfs. However exited about heavys and scouts though Hit me with your nerf bat.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 983	Posted - 2014.02.14 00:25:00 - [3] - Quote Gallente Assault Bonus is the worst out of all of them because it only fits two of their weapons. No Plasma Cannon or Shotgun. Would be happier if they changed it to increased RoF for hybrid Plasma weaponry instead of Blaster.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4607	Posted - 2014.02.14 00:46:00 - [4] - Quote Myron Kundera wrote: hoo! (pt 2 of 2) EDIT: Now, with something useful: Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons] - Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level. - Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level. - Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level. - Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level. Logistics [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of equipment] - Caldari Logistics: +10% to nanohive max. nanites and +5% to supply rate and repair amount per level. - Gallente Logistics: +10% to active scanner visibility duration and +5% to active scanner precision per level. - Minmatar Logistics: +10% to repair tool range and 5% to repair amount per level. - Amarr Logistics: 10% reduction to drop uplink spawn time and +2 to max. spawn count per level. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian I would love some opinions on the Gallente Assault. Yeah, that bonuses should be this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141123 Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2165	Posted - 2014.02.14 01:04:00 - [5] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Yeah, that bonuses should be this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141123 Won't happen. CCP is obviously giving class based bonuses. Its also quite clear they are actively trying to stay away from module based bonuses as well, since not a single suit will get one in 1.8... Assaults get bonuses to the ability to lay down fire with their racial weapons. Logis get bonuses to their racial equipments effectiveness. Commandos get bonus damage for their racial weapons.(or was it reload speed? I can't remember.) Sentinels get bonuses to tank damage from their enemy and ally races weapons. Scouts get bonuses for their races 'scouty' aspects. Those are the cards that have been dealt. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
Glass Zeraki The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V. 12	Posted - 2014.02.14 01:29:00 - [6] - Quote In my opinion the Gallente Assault bonus should be changed. To what, I don't know. How about a 1 or 2% range increase on hybrid-blaster weapons per level? There needs to be a decent bonus for hybrid blaster weapons, because they're made for close combat meaning you have to get CLOSE to your enemy to kill them, but the problem is there is something in the game WAY better suited for that. It's called the HEAVY MACHINE GUN. No comparison. Director of The Phoenix Federation. Shut up or I'll mute you.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2170	Posted - 2014.02.14 01:42:00 - [7] - Quote Glass Zeraki wrote: In my opinion the Gallente Assault bonus should be changed. To what, I don't know. How about a 1 or 2% range increase on hybrid-blaster weapons per level? There needs to be a decent bonus for hybrid blaster weapons, because they're made for close combat meaning you have to get CLOSE to your enemy to kill them, but the problem is there is something in the game WAY better suited for that. It's called the HEAVY MACHINE GUN. No comparison. You would rather have an extra 4.5m of range than increased hipfire accuracy?! Whatever... you heard the man CCP! Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 201	Posted - 2014.02.14 02:05:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Glass Zeraki wrote: In my opinion the Gallente Assault bonus should be changed. To what, I don't know. How about a 1 or 2% range increase on hybrid-blaster weapons per level? There needs to be a decent bonus for hybrid blaster weapons, because they're made for close combat meaning you have to get CLOSE to your enemy to kill them, but the problem is there is something in the game WAY better suited for that. It's called the HEAVY MACHINE GUN. No comparison. You would rather have an extra 4.5m of range than increased hipfire accuracy?! Whatever... you heard the man CCP! The hipfire can stay as long as complex armor reps go up to 10+
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2172	Posted - 2014.02.14 02:11:00 - [9] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Glass Zeraki wrote: In my opinion the Gallente Assault bonus should be changed. To what, I don't know. How about a 1 or 2% range increase on hybrid-blaster weapons per level? There needs to be a decent bonus for hybrid blaster weapons, because they're made for close combat meaning you have to get CLOSE to your enemy to kill them, but the problem is there is something in the game WAY better suited for that. It's called the HEAVY MACHINE GUN. No comparison. You would rather have an extra 4.5m of range than increased hipfire accuracy?! Whatever... you heard the man CCP! The hipfire can stay as long as complex armor reps go up to 10+ This I can agree with. We need more viable tanking styles than shields/rmor, or damage/armor. Rep tanking is an awesome tanking style! Maybe not so high though? Would 8 be a happy medium? Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 173	Posted - 2014.02.14 02:25:00 - [10] - Quote Reload bonus for Caldari is bad because the Commando already has that bonus but for all light weapons Plus other reasons pointed out by many others. I'd like something like increased zoom. Gallente bonus should be along the lines of ROF or something more DPS. *"War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left."*
Myron Kundera The Generals General Tso's Alliance 41	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:53:00 - [11] - Quote Do we even have a hybrid - blaster sidearm that will benefit from said hip-fire dispersion and kick per level???? Don-¦t know if (LoL) Ion Pistol applies for this... "Greed, the forgotten mental disease" "Spray and pray makes my day" "Will use proto gear in self defense"
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1877	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:45:00 - [12] - Quote Assault should cover some defense and some damage. Logistics shouuld cover defense and ease of use of equipment(deployment, fitting etc) CCP don't play dust514, they don't test Dust514, CCP will kill Dust514 I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2113	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:53:00 - [13] - Quote Horizen Kenpachi wrote: Its all really bad me no liky liky assult will need epic stat changes to buff it to compare with its piers and logi is a joke who wants to hold a repper anymore ccp u killed real logistics why do i have to go proto to still be a shadow of what my loginess should be. Im thinking if they give respects im going full vehicle specalist like i was pre 1.7 not happy with the nerfs. However exited about heavys and scouts though reduced dispersion on SG = win/ further effective range because all rounds hit a target at further out. reduced kick means rounds can shoot faster without waiting to re-aim. *reduced kick/dispersion on AR/Tac AR means much better accuracy at hip fire. I think it's going to be a solid skill.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 398	Posted - 2014.02.28 18:14:00 - [14] - Quote Logis are a mixed bag. As for assaults, thinking along the lines of racial suit+weap the Amarr suit made out like a bandit, followed by the Matari suit, since the pg/cpu reduction is kind of wasted on Matari weapons. The not so good are the Gallente and Caldari. Gallente aren't that bad off since it does seem to provide some fringe benefit but the Caldari is just plain terribad. 32db Mad Bomber.

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