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Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 423	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:01:00 - [1] - Quote So I was having coffee with G8bri3l Vectoscope and we got talking about the future of the DUST/EVE merger and how amazing everything will be in 5 years. He mentioned that a Google search for his Merc landed this page where he was identified as a "pilot" when he was killed as a scout on the ground. It appears that EVE pilots get all the juicy details about whom they kill from orbit in FW matches. I have yet to be killed by orbital in FW this year so I can't find any log of my deaths related to EVE. This got us wondering: Does our direct relationship with EVE mean that our stats are proportional to a ship? and Is the "Pilot Suit" in the marketplace simply an arbitrary means of identifying our characters for their interaction with EVE mechanics so that things mesh? Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
Ayures II Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 482	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:06:00 - [2] - Quote Relax, it's just a KM and it's obvious he was in a scout suit. If a KM identifies a dustbunny as a pilot, it's because OB KM's are new and referring to everyone in EVE as a pilot is normal. Pilot suits are supposed to give bonuses for vehicles and be in the light suit size. No word on when we might get them, though. And no, stats aren't proportional.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 978	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:10:00 - [3] - Quote Ayures II wrote: Relax, it's just a KM and it's obvious he was in a scout suit. If a KM identifies a dustbunny as a pilot, it's because OB KM's are new and referring to everyone in EVE as a pilot is normal. Pilot suits are supposed to give bonuses for vehicles and be in the light suit size. No word on when we might get them, though. And no, stats aren't proportional. CCP was going to add them Uprising 1.0, but forgot. They also forgot to delete the category in the market when they sobered up the next day.
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 423	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:14:00 - [4] - Quote Ayures II wrote: Relax, it's just a KM and it's obvious he was in a scout suit. If a KM identifies a dustbunny as a pilot, it's because OB KM's are new and referring to everyone in EVE as a pilot is normal. Pilot suits are supposed to give bonuses for vehicles and be in the light suit size. No word on when we might get them, though. And no, stats aren't proportional. Looking at details on frigates tho the HP/shield is about 300/300 (rough), and the PG/CPU are set up like a medium frame. It looks very much like the game mechanics are equivalent for each game, only scaled. Shifting of decimals and such. It got me looking to see if I could find any official info about the "pilot suit", or if it was all conjecture. Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 473	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:17:00 - [5] - Quote its been in and out even for us vet players just keep it down because the last time us vets saw then we dint shut up and CCP took them a off the market ! because they got sick of us asking over and over " whens the tanker suit coming " Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Ayures II Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 483	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:28:00 - [6] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Ayures II wrote: Relax, it's just a KM and it's obvious he was in a scout suit. If a KM identifies a dustbunny as a pilot, it's because OB KM's are new and referring to everyone in EVE as a pilot is normal. Pilot suits are supposed to give bonuses for vehicles and be in the light suit size. No word on when we might get them, though. And no, stats aren't proportional. Looking at details on frigates tho the HP/shield is about 300/300 (rough), and the PG/CPU are set up like a medium frame. It looks very much like the game mechanics are equivalent for each game, only scaled. Shifting of decimals and such. It got me looking to see if I could find any official info about the "pilot suit", or if it was all conjecture. I think the last time CCP talked about them was Fanfest. Go find the DUST keynote or the Future of DUST presentation from last year if you don't believe me.
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 423	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:39:00 - [7] - Quote Ayures II wrote: Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Ayures II wrote: Relax, it's just a KM and it's obvious he was in a scout suit. If a KM identifies a dustbunny as a pilot, it's because OB KM's are new and referring to everyone in EVE as a pilot is normal. Pilot suits are supposed to give bonuses for vehicles and be in the light suit size. No word on when we might get them, though. And no, stats aren't proportional. Looking at details on frigates tho the HP/shield is about 300/300 (rough), and the PG/CPU are set up like a medium frame. It looks very much like the game mechanics are equivalent for each game, only scaled. Shifting of decimals and such. It got me looking to see if I could find any official info about the "pilot suit", or if it was all conjecture. I think the last time CCP talked about them was Fanfest. Go find the DUST keynote or the Future of DUST presentation from last year if you don't believe me. Last time I watched that was just after they posted the vids lol Ahh, I should watch them again for nostalgia Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 102	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:55:00 - [8] - Quote With the difficulties CCP has to balance vehicles, I doubt that the pilot suit is coming anytime soon. They would transform the tanks from jesus to god mode!!!
Lonegnr New Eden Security Services 63	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:59:00 - [9] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: This got us wondering: Does our direct relationship with EVE mean that our stats are proportional to a ship? No, it does not. The balancing done at either end is pretty different.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5728	Posted - 2014.02.14 00:45:00 - [10] - Quote I doubt a Madrugar could compete with a Thorax. Never forget May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0
Teilka Darkmist 276	Posted - 2014.02.14 00:53:00 - [11] - Quote I get the general impression that the pilot suits, when they come out, will be for the eventual jets that CCP are planning to add. Possibly for Dropships and Tanks as well. Nothing to do with EVE integration. Hopefully they hold on the jets untill we get much larger maps or else they're either going to be pretty useless, not being able to travel very far, or they'll be very OP. Pilot suits can wait untill that happens imo. I could be wrong of course, I haven't heard or read anything official from CCP about them. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 505	Posted - 2014.02.14 00:55:00 - [12] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Looking at details on frigates tho the HP/shield is about 300/300 (rough), and the PG/CPU are set up like a medium frame. It looks very much like the game mechanics are equivalent for each game, only scaled. Shifting of decimals and such. It got me looking to see if I could find any official info about the "pilot suit", or if it was all conjecture. The fitting system in DUST is inspired by and very similar to EVE in that Dropsuits and Vehicles have Shields and Armor (and a hidden layer of "structure hp" 10 hp for dropsuits and 50hp for vehicles, which is why there are rare occasions when you survive an attack with 0 armor hp) They have module slots, and these use limited resources (PG/CPU) when equipped, placing some limits on the combination of modules you can equip at the same time. The similarities pretty much end here though, in terms of gameplay and balance But now that you mention it... A Mobile Command Cruiser in Dust has a little over 2 million shield and 2 million armor HP displayed to us That's more base HP than a Titan in EVE. But, if you divide that by 1000 you end up with 2k shield and 2k armor, which is actually reasonable for a cruiser class hull. PG and CPU in EVE are measured in Megawatts and TFLOPS, PG and CPU in dust are measured in Kilowatts and GFLOPS, units 1000 times smaller. So there you have it: divide stats in dust by 1000. A tank in dust 514 would have about 5hp in eve, enough to survive two hits from the pitiful civilian gatling railgun on a default rookie frigate
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 423	Posted - 2014.02.14 07:14:00 - [13] - Quote I appreciate all the thought that's being contributed here, but I still wonder why the kill mail in EVE lists us as "pilots" when we certainly aren't. (side note: I'm glad to see a woman who identifies herself as such in her sig. Hard to know after reading the fiction) Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1819	Posted - 2014.02.14 07:43:00 - [14] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: So I was having coffee with G8bri3l Vectoscope and we got talking about the future of the DUST/EVE merger and how amazing everything will be in 5 years. He mentioned that a Google search for his Merc landed this page where he was identified as a "pilot" when he was killed as a scout on the ground. It appears that EVE pilots get all the juicy details about whom they kill from orbit in FW matches. I have yet to be killed by orbital in FW this year so I can't find any log of my deaths related to EVE. This got us wondering: Does our direct relationship with EVE mean that our stats are proportional to a ship? and Is the "Pilot Suit" in the marketplace simply an arbitrary means of identifying our characters for their interaction with EVE mechanics so that things mesh? The pilot suits will be for improving certain characteristics of vehicles. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1819	Posted - 2014.02.14 07:45:00 - [15] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: I doubt a Madrugar could compete with a Thorax. You should see what I can do. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2192	Posted - 2014.02.14 08:55:00 - [16] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: I appreciate all the thought that's being contributed here, but I still wonder why the kill mail in EVE lists us as "pilots" when we certainly aren't. (side note: I'm glad to see a woman who identifies herself as such in her sig. Hard to know after reading the fiction) Because everyone is identified as a pilot by Eve because CCP hasn't gone through and identified us as mercs yet. There's no grander meaning behind it. Perhaps it's just that CCP haven't figured out an official name for us to be known by in Eve. When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail - when your hammer is a spaceship, everyone looks like a pilot. Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2854	Posted - 2014.02.14 09:46:00 - [17] - Quote the pilot suit will most likely provide bonuses for vehicles. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2014.02.14 09:52:00 - [18] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Merc landed this page where he was identified as a "pilot" when he was killed as a scout on the ground. Nowhere on that site is he identified as a "pilot". And the reason it says Ship next to the scout suit is because ccp hasnt added a unique tag for suits in the killmail system (or the killboard itself hasnt taken this into account yet, i dont know which).
Teilka Darkmist 278	Posted - 2014.02.14 09:55:00 - [19] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: the pilot suit will most likely provide bonuses for vehicles. Tankers/Dropship pilots, take note and shove all your SP into light suits ready for when Pilot suits are released. Don't expect that to make any difference really, by the time pilot suits actually come out, most vehicle drivers/pilots will have enough spare SP to immediately skill to 5 in them anyway, and likely whatever skills are needed for the modules as well. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.

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