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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 19:06:00 -
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This is a Topic to discuss and address the REAL Number 1 glaring issue with Dust514; CCP Shanghai.
(And, No, I'm not a racist - so you can abandon whatever lame Hit|er/Holocaust argument you're already concocting in your little Junior Varsity brain. I'm a farmer. Plants that do not produce are removed and processed into mulch to feed the future productive crop.)
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 19:07:00 -
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InB4Lock, outB4Ban
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.02.13 19:16:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Shanghai is a city, not a reason. This thread should solicit some good posting [sarcasm]. It's been a slow week in the trimming room. Actually, CCP Shanghai is not a city. It is an entity. *I invented sarcasm.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 19:27:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Rynoceros wrote:This is a Topic to discuss and address the REAL Number 1 glaring issue with Dust514; CCP Shanghai.
(And, No, I'm not a racist - so you can abandon whatever lame Hit|er/Holocaust argument you're already concocting in your little Junior Varsity brain. I'm a farmer. Plants that do not produce are removed and processed into mulch to feed the future productive crop.)
What do you see as the problem with CCP Shanghai? If it is a lack if production, how do you see this related to the location? Speed of production likely has multiple influences. Recent change in direction of design as well as directorship would effect the output levels. It's like having a franchise of Sales Offices. When margins are narrowed, the least effective or even defective branches are eliminated and their workload outsourced to a more productive facility. They (CCP) have expressed a communication breakdown in the past and even address it (via context clues) in any job listing I've run across. The change in management has been long enough for the effects to be seen already, if the new EP was worth his weight in salt. But what have we seen? That glorious AV balance pass? Event rewards delayed by nearly a month? It may seem petty, but it's very indicative of what is ahead.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 19:30:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:It's cheaper to get them to do it. Probably why dust is free. Maybe. But what's the profitability of a product that nobody wants or respects?
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 20:16:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:I don't know that outsourcing (or changing branches within CCP) would help the situation, or slow things down further. There are tons of programmers and coders with a vast wealth of knowledge when using the U3 engine. I assume some are chomping at the bit to get their hands on it and show what it can do. However, I doubt any of them would consider a long-term move to Shanghai a worthwhile exchange, and judging by their hirings in the past it does not attract anyone of note.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 20:20:00 -
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Duke Noobiam wrote:A little off topic here, but is your corp "Rise of old dudes" a corp for older gamers? That was the original intent after Chromosome. I don't allocate enough time to this game to make it worth expanding. It's never been anyone other than me.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 20:23:00 -
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low genius wrote:Rynoceros wrote:This is a Topic to discuss and address the REAL Number 1 glaring issue with Dust514; CCP Shanghai.
(And, No, I'm not a racist - so you can abandon whatever lame Hit|er/Holocaust argument you're already concocting in your little Junior Varsity brain. I'm a farmer. Plants that do not produce are removed and processed into mulch to feed the future productive crop.)
how the **** would you know? How the **** can you not know? How the **** have you not noticed the pattern(s)? You've been here long enough. What is the ******* problem then?
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 20:29:00 -
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Drud Green wrote:Hey op, how many chinese made devices do you currently own? how many of them perform as poorly as dust? Shanghai is not the issue. Most of my cheap **** which was originally outsourced to China has been re-outsourced to Mexico. -íOl+¬!
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 20:52:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:-íMexico! Where we make things French Quality on an Ugandan pay stub. Fact of the Day?
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 20:55:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Drud Green wrote:Hey op, how many chinese made devices do you currently own? how many of them perform as poorly as dust? Shanghai is not the issue. Most of my cheap **** which was originally outsourced to China has been re-outsourced to Mexico. -íOl+¬! de nada Palabra, guey.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 21:42:00 -
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@Midas, my growing partner is Mexican. Before going into farming, I was a cook for 15 years. Most of 'my people' are Mexican and Guatemalan. I mention the racist thing because most of the people here are stupid children with no scope of reality and if you don't name a specific person they assume you're disparaging an entire race.
I've given CCP my time and the benefit of doubt for over a year. They've been at it even longer. It's time to start pointing fingers and assessing blame if they hope to salvage this ship before it sinks. This game is on the verge of being forgotten rubbish if nothing is done.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 21:46:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Duke Noobiam wrote:A little off topic here, but is your corp "Rise of old dudes" a corp for older gamers? That was the original intent after Chromosome. I don't allocate enough time to this game to make it worth expanding. It's never been anyone other than me. OP is an old, likely white, farmer. I didn't know you could actually smell republican racism until just now. I grow weed, smartass. How Republican is that? I hate everyone equally. I don't care who your parents are or where they came from. You are the kind of stupid that nullifies any decent conversation the adults in the room are trying to carry on. Just carry Mommy's purse like a good little boy.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 21:54:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:And this is why you're down here in the forums with the rest of us while the REAL EXECUTIVES who know how to run a business are up there. No, being a farmer doesn't qualify you for running a gaming company. Oh yeah, because they were executives when they started this company.... Sit down, boy.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:06:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Duke Noobiam wrote:A little off topic here, but is your corp "Rise of old dudes" a corp for older gamers? That was the original intent after Chromosome. I don't allocate enough time to this game to make it worth expanding. It's never been anyone other than me. OP is an old, likely white, farmer. I didn't know you could actually smell republican racism until just now. I grow weed, smartass. How Republican is that? I hate everyone equally. I don't care who your parents are or where they came from. You are the kind of stupid that nullifies any decent conversation the adults in the room are trying to carry on. Just carry Mommy's purse like a good little boy. Says the guy raging about the Chinese on a gaming forum. Go on back to the *** meeting and preach it to your brothers, they are probably more willing to listen. I'm raging about their incompetent Chinese office, not the Chinese. Use of emoticons removed you from any respectable position.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:10:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:If your point is that CCP Shanghai is apparently a terrible dev studio, I agree. If your poinst is that Shanghai itself is a place that's incapable of producing quality goods or services, well that's just silly.
I'm pretty sure your intention was the former rather than the latter. I haven't made mention of Shanghai as a region.
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Rynoceros
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:25:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:Rynoceros wrote: I'm raging about their incompetent Chinese office, not the Chinese. Use of emoticons removed you from any respectable position.
Use of phrases like "Just carry Mommy's purse like a good little boy." has removed you from any respectable position. Healthy debate and conversation isn't possible when you talk down to the people you're arguing with. I'm not just talking about you Ryno, others are guilty and it's sad that people can't offer their arguments to each other on an internet forum without name calling and impudent rage. Yeah, this game isn't my only source of rage today. I'm probably going to get banned anyways, for doubting the almighty CCP, may as well throw a few jabs on my way out.
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