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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6459	Posted - 2014.02.13 10:11:00 - [1] - Quote Hey CCP, remember the AR and RR? How you said that the 0.25 charge up time is totally going to balance them? Remember how that completely failed? You're doing the same mistake with the SMG and Magsec SMG. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1900	Posted - 2014.02.13 10:36:00 - [2] - Quote Except the mistake is way bigger. If they don't fix it I am specing into the proto magsec. With one complex side arm modifier it does the same DPS as a duvolle but at half the cost :) For the Federation!
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2724	Posted - 2014.02.13 10:49:00 - [3] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: 1.8 Gallente weapons are so UP. This will be a first in Dust history. This will be the first time an entire line of racial weapons will be useless versus the usual one or two. Damage mods are getting nerfed and the proficiency skills on all weapons are being reworked to do more damage that; that said weapon deals damage to: ie shields or armor. Also the SMG is getting nerfed in someway too. Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1629	Posted - 2014.02.13 11:02:00 - [4] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: 1.8 Gallente weapons are so UP. This will be a first in Dust history. This will be the first time an entire line of racial weapons will be useless versus the usual one or two. Damage mods are getting nerfed and the proficiency skills on all weapons are being reworked to do more damage that; that said weapon deals damage to: ie shields or armor. Also the SMG is getting nerfed in someway too. In other words, the magsec is going to outclass it totally. But hey! Think of it this way! This now negates the arguments of AVers that claim that they can't kill infantry! Now you have an AR in the sidearm slot! Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6461	Posted - 2014.02.13 11:03:00 - [5] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Lt Royal wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: 1.8 Gallente weapons are so UP. This will be a first in Dust history. This will be the first time an entire line of racial weapons will be useless versus the usual one or two. Damage mods are getting nerfed and the proficiency skills on all weapons are being reworked to do more damage that; that said weapon deals damage to: ie shields or armor. Also the SMG is getting nerfed in someway too. In other words, the magsec is going to outclass it totally. But hey! Think of it this way! This now negates the arguments of AVers that claim that they can't kill infantry! Now you have an AR in the sidearm slot! Hah I was thinking about the same thing. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 93	Posted - 2014.02.13 11:06:00 - [6] - Quote Surely you jest kittyGÇª What could go wrong with a sidearm that has higher damage than a fully automatic assault rifle, ludicrous effective and optimal range, lower fitting requirements, faster reload and more ammo? .ß¦óß¦î+ÿ+ÿß¦ÿß¦Å ß¦ó+ê+æß¦åß¦Åß¦ë - -Æß¦£ß¦îß¦îß+¦ Qß¦+ß¦Çß¦îß¦ë-ô-ù-+ß¦å ß¦áß¦Éß¦Ü+½ß¦â. ... -¦ ß¦íß¦Ç-ò -òß¦äß¦Ç+¦+¦ß¦çß¦à ß¦Å+¦ß¦äß¦ç... -òß¦¢-¦-ƒ-ƒ -ôß¦çß¦ç-ƒ ß¦Ç -ƒ-¦ß¦¢ß¦¢-ƒß¦ç ß¦á-¦ß¦Å-ƒß¦Çß¦¢ß¦çß¦à
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1946	Posted - 2014.02.13 11:17:00 - [7] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: Surely you jest kittyGÇª What could go wrong with a sidearm that has higher damage than a fully automatic assault rifle, ludicrous effective and optimal range, lower fitting requirements, faster reload and more ammo? That sounds like something Spkr would say about tanks. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 295	Posted - 2014.02.13 11:17:00 - [8] - Quote CCP don't listen to the player base that why. Can't w8 until I get my hands on a ps4 then it's bye bye dust 514 sick of this stupid remakes al the times and the same old sane old mistakes over and over. Love this game but I am at a breaking point if they fail with 1,8 that's it for me War never changes
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1946	Posted - 2014.02.13 11:18:00 - [9] - Quote I just hope we get a weapons skill refund once we have a full T2 roster. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
SPESHULz The Southern Legion 9	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:02:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Hey CCP, remember the AR and RR? How you said that the 0.25 charge up time is totally going to balance them? Remember how that completely failed?. Kind of like how they stopped turbo controllers giving tac ar a ridiculous rate of fire and now have same problem with combat rifle. Lord High Commander

Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 391	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:16:00 - [11] - Quote Oh boy! I should have paid attention to the numbers. If this is true then I can't wait to see the tears resulting from it's abuse and the followup tears resulting from its nerfbat smack down in two weeks. Flaylock pistol v2.0. The forums are more fun than the game itself.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES Legacy Rising 627	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:19:00 - [12] - Quote SPESHULz wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Hey CCP, remember the AR and RR? How you said that the 0.25 charge up time is totally going to balance them? Remember how that completely failed?. Kind of like how they stopped turbo controllers giving tac ar a ridiculous rate of fire and now have same problem with combat rifle. And the scrambler rifle. Remember the scrambler does the same damage per shot as the TAC rifle. It also has a charged shot mechanic that does sniper levels of damage (Usually a lot more). High rate of fire and a 45 round clip. On an Amarr assault suit the heat mechanic really isnt a HUGE downside.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 88	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:21:00 - [13] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: I just hope we get a weapons skill refund once we have a full T2 roster. Then sign my petition damnit. points to signature And yeah guys the SMG is a projectile weapon so the AR will still do more damage to shields than it. Please sign my 1.8 respec petition
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 471	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:22:00 - [14] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: SPESHULz wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Hey CCP, remember the AR and RR? How you said that the 0.25 charge up time is totally going to balance them? Remember how that completely failed?. Kind of like how they stopped turbo controllers giving tac ar a ridiculous rate of fire and now have same problem with combat rifle. And the scrambler rifle. Remember the scrambler does the same damage per shot as the TAC rifle. It also has a charged shot mechanic that does sniper levels of damage (Usually a lot more). High rate of fire and a 45 round clip. On an Amarr assault suit the heat mechanic really isnt a HUGE downside. how come it's the least used of all rifles ???
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1902	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:23:00 - [15] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: 1.8 Gallente weapons are so UP. This will be a first in Dust history. This will be the first time an entire line of racial weapons will be useless versus the usual one or two. Damage mods are getting nerfed and the proficiency skills on all weapons are being reworked to do more damage that; that said weapon deals damage to: ie shields or armor. Also the SMG is getting nerfed in someway too. I really hope proficiency skills don't do that. That will be extremely bad. Also the SMG is nowhere near as OP as the magsec. The magsec has more DPS and more range I don't understand how CCP balances weapons I really dont. For the Federation!
Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 7	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:24:00 - [16] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: SPESHULz wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Hey CCP, remember the AR and RR? How you said that the 0.25 charge up time is totally going to balance them? Remember how that completely failed?. Kind of like how they stopped turbo controllers giving tac ar a ridiculous rate of fire and now have same problem with combat rifle. And the scrambler rifle. Remember the scrambler does the same damage per shot as the TAC rifle. It also has a charged shot mechanic that does sniper levels of damage (Usually a lot more). High rate of fire and a 45 round clip. On an Amarr assault suit the heat mechanic really isnt a HUGE downside. how come it's the least used of all rifles ??? because of armor tanking. if shield tanking gets a buff, they will be back.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 540	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:25:00 - [17] - Quote the magsec has more DPS and equal or greater range than the assault rifleGÇª.just goes to show somethingGÇª.not wuite sure what Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 540	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:26:00 - [18] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Lt Royal wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: 1.8 Gallente weapons are so UP. This will be a first in Dust history. This will be the first time an entire line of racial weapons will be useless versus the usual one or two. Damage mods are getting nerfed and the proficiency skills on all weapons are being reworked to do more damage that; that said weapon deals damage to: ie shields or armor. Also the SMG is getting nerfed in someway too. I really hope proficiency skills don't do that. That will be extremely bad. Also the SMG is nowhere near as OP as the magsec. The magsec has more DPS and more range I don't understand how CCP balances weapons I really dont. The SMG is probably the most balanced ballistic weapon in the game Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1949	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:27:00 - [19] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I just hope we get a weapons skill refund once we have a full T2 roster. Then sign my petition damnit. points to signature And yeah guys the SMG is a projectile weapon so the AR will still do more damage to shields than it. No, thats a respec, in 1.8 we should getva Suit skill, and dropsuit upgrade skill refund, not weapons. Only once we have 4Rifles 4SG 4Snipers 4LMG 4 Pistol 4 SMG 4HMG 4HVAI 4GRENADES 4KNIVES should we get a weapon skill refund. Spkr4thedead: Me > AV This is why tanks are unbalanced Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2147	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:43:00 - [20] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: bamboo x wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I just hope we get a weapons skill refund once we have a full T2 roster. Then sign my petition damnit. points to signature And yeah guys the SMG is a projectile weapon so the AR will still do more damage to shields than it. No, thats a respec, in 1.8 we should getva Suit skill, and dropsuit upgrade skill refund, not weapons. Only once we have 4Rifles 4SG 4Snipers 4LMG 4 Pistol 4 SMG 4HMG 4HVAI 4GRENADES 4KNIVES should we get a weapon skill refund. Sooo.....Never? I am almost positive we won't ever get any LMGs, or 3 more Shotguns. I highly doubt we will ever get 8 heavy weapons either. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle

Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1956	Posted - 2014.02.13 20:26:00 - [21] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: bamboo x wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I just hope we get a weapons skill refund once we have a full T2 roster. Then sign my petition damnit. points to signature And yeah guys the SMG is a projectile weapon so the AR will still do more damage to shields than it. No, thats a respec, in 1.8 we should getva Suit skill, and dropsuit upgrade skill refund, not weapons. Only once we have 4Rifles 4SG 4Snipers 4LMG 4 Pistol 4 SMG 4HMG 4HVAI 4GRENADES 4KNIVES should we get a weapon skill refund. Sooo.....Never? I am almost positive we won't ever get any LMGs, or 3 more Shotguns. I highly doubt we will ever get 8 heavy weapons either. We already have 1 LMG, laser rifle. Spkr4thedead: Me > AV This is why tanks are unbalanced Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9389	Posted - 2014.02.13 20:32:00 - [22] - Quote Floyd20 Azizora wrote: Greasepalms wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: SPESHULz wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Hey CCP, remember the AR and RR? How you said that the 0.25 charge up time is totally going to balance them? Remember how that completely failed?. Kind of like how they stopped turbo controllers giving tac ar a ridiculous rate of fire and now have same problem with combat rifle. And the scrambler rifle. Remember the scrambler does the same damage per shot as the TAC rifle. It also has a charged shot mechanic that does sniper levels of damage (Usually a lot more). High rate of fire and a 45 round clip. On an Amarr assault suit the heat mechanic really isnt a HUGE downside. how come it's the least used of all rifles ??? because of armor tanking. if shield tanking gets a buff, they will be back. When shield tanking reigned supreme, scramblers were still uncommon on the field. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven


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