DUST Search - Minmatar Dropsuits?

FLAY LOCKED wrote:

You all can say that you do well with your Assault, Logistics, and Scout mk.0s, but I'd wager all my ISK that you'd do better with say, a gk.0, ck.0, or even an ak.0. The only Minmatar suit that does well in a niche category is the Logistics mk.0 when built around a speed hacking setup. It absolutely excels at this role as no other dropsuit can contend with it in this aspect. However, that is soon to change when racial bonuses are revamped.

As it stands, Basic and Assault Minmatar suits have the worst slot layouts in game. There is very little one can do to optimize his or her fittings to stay competitive with only two low slots. In addition, speed is almost a non-factor with how low TTK is in this build. Some might argue that being faster is a reasonable trade-off for having horrendously low eHP, but this means nothing when other suits can equip a KinCat to match a Minnie's speed whilst still having more armor and shields.

Unless TTK is changed and speed reclaims its role as a viable means of defense, the battlefield will not have any use for the Minmatar race, aside from the Scout who will then claim the role as the new speed hacker.

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FLAY LOCKED Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 29	Posted - 2014.02.13 05:35:00 - [1] - Quote What are they good for: dying easily? The only way an individual can stay competitive in a Minmatar suit is if he or she reaches Prototype. However, if such a person is willing to invest such an amount of skill points into a mediocre frame, then he or she could better invest those points by skilling into something that is not Minmatar.
Ulme Mees Rautaleijona Top Men. 118	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:31:00 - [2] - Quote Well if you like to be versatile - Minmatar Logi is the best for it. at proto 4high 4 lows and 4 equipment slots at adv 3 high 3 low and 3 eq Fear is a disease!
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 106	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:39:00 - [3] - Quote The minmatar assault suit made my KD ratio go from a 3.3 to a 4.07 so I don't understand. Swarm SP Refund Please!!!!!!! "LONG LIVE DARK LEGION"
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1565	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:57:00 - [4] - Quote FLAY LOCKED wrote: What are they good for: dying easily? The only way an individual can stay competitive in a Minmatar suit is if he or she reaches Prototype. However, if such a person is willing to invest such an amount of skill points into a mediocre frame, then he or she could better invest those points by skilling into something that is not Minmatar. You are 100% correct.the minmata habe the lowest ego and 6% more movement speed which means nothing. We. Have a horrible layout and pretty much no advantage. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1628	Posted - 2014.02.13 08:13:00 - [5] - Quote Ulme Mees wrote: Well if you like to be versatile - Minmatar Logi is the best for it. at proto 4high 4 lows and 4 equipment slots at adv 3 high 3 low and 3 eq At ADV Amarr is better. 3h 3l 3equips, more base HP - oh, and a sidearm. Best med suit in game, IMO. If I didn't adore my GalLogi's fitting bonus I'd have it instead. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4622	Posted - 2014.02.13 08:16:00 - [6] - Quote I think the Min Assault Suit just doesn't fit your playstyle, and/or vice versa. The Minmitat Assault is a very good suit but like all Assault suits, they get outshined by Logistics.
McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 621	Posted - 2014.02.13 08:51:00 - [7] - Quote I have proto Min assault and yeah... It's not great. 1.8 should (hopefully) fix things. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole
RedZer0 MK1 The Generals General Tso's Alliance 181	Posted - 2014.02.13 09:07:00 - [8] - Quote Been doing well with them. For me speed is a killer.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1946	Posted - 2014.02.13 09:37:00 - [9] - Quote My frontline is an Amarr 225-225=450 does well with a rifle, average 1.4 KDR My Minmatar advanced has 238-186= 424 with either a MD or a shotgun, average 2.3KDR +750WP more on average. Its your playstyle. Not saying the suit is fine, but its not a gimped as you make out. Hopefully in 1.8 they will give Assaults the LogiSlot layout. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
OZAROW 0uter.Heaven 1398	Posted - 2014.02.13 09:51:00 - [10] - Quote Either be a ghost, really fast, or really damage or dual tanked, I use scouts always but have a advanced min LOGI for team support but my adv basic assault kicks ACE! Gotta run them like scouts Adv basic minmatar assault 2 damage mods Comp shield Cr proficiency 4 Toxin smg proficiency 4 Comp reactive Complex kinetic Flux Compact hive Cheap, effective, fast, armor rep, bout 500 HP an good for damage an quick flanks SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4

BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1900	Posted - 2014.02.13 10:46:00 - [11] - Quote FLAY LOCKED wrote: What are they good for: dying easily? The only way an individual can stay competitive in a Minmatar suit is if he or she reaches Prototype. However, if such a person is willing to invest such an amount of skill points into a mediocre frame, then he or she could better invest those points by skilling into something that is not Minmatar. I do extremely well in my Minmatar scout and logistics both advanced. For the Federation!
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 188	Posted - 2014.02.13 11:41:00 - [12] - Quote @OP strafe better... get kbm, ADADADADADAD hold down left mouse button... win. What's not to love about the scrambler rifle, the thing is a precision weapon and at the same time a shotgun.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3112	Posted - 2014.02.13 13:07:00 - [13] - Quote They need one more low slot. No.
FLAY LOCKED Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2014.02.13 13:18:00 - [14] - Quote You all can say that you do well with your Assault, Logistics, and Scout mk.0s, but I'd wager all my ISK that you'd do better with say, a gk.0, ck.0, or even an ak.0. The only Minmatar suit that does well in a niche category is the Logistics mk.0 when built around a speed hacking setup. It absolutely excels at this role as no other dropsuit can contend with it in this aspect. However, that is soon to change when racial bonuses are revamped. As it stands, Basic and Assault Minmatar suits have the worst slot layouts in game. There is very little one can do to optimize his or her fittings to stay competitive with only two low slots. In addition, speed is almost a non-factor with how low TTK is in this build. Some might argue that being faster is a reasonable trade-off for having horrendously low eHP, but this means nothing when other suits can equip a KinCat to match a Minnie's speed whilst still having more armor and shields. Unless TTK is changed and speed reclaims its role as a viable means of defense, the battlefield will not have any use for the Minmatar race, aside from the Scout who will then claim the role as the new speed hacker.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1902	Posted - 2014.02.13 13:21:00 - [15] - Quote FLAY LOCKED wrote: You all can say that you do well with your Assault, Logistics, and Scout mk.0s, but I'd wager all my ISK that you'd do better with say, a gk.0, ck.0, or even an ak.0. The only Minmatar suit that does well in a niche category is the Logistics mk.0 when built around a speed hacking setup. It absolutely excels at this role as no other dropsuit can contend with it in this aspect. However, that is soon to change when racial bonuses are revamped. As it stands, Basic and Assault Minmatar suits have the worst slot layouts in game. There is very little one can do to optimize his or her fittings to stay competitive with only two low slots. In addition, speed is almost a non-factor with how low TTK is in this build. Some might argue that being faster is a reasonable trade-off for having horrendously low eHP, but this means nothing when other suits can equip a KinCat to match a Minnie's speed whilst still having more armor and shields. Unless TTK is changed and speed reclaims its role as a viable means of defense, the battlefield will not have any use for the Minmatar race, aside from the Scout who will then claim the role as the new speed hacker. I do way better with my LogisticsnM/1 series than I do with my Logistics Gk.0. Why? Because I know how to shield tank, and I know how to use speed to my advantage. If you expect to use a Minmatar suit and just stand there and tank every shot it will not work. You don't take shots you dodge them... For the Federation!
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1503	Posted - 2014.02.13 13:24:00 - [16] - Quote My MinLogi is sad because he's the squishiest of all Logis and that his new role will be relegated to that of a chubby chaser... I didn't skill into Logistics to follow fatbros around. I skilled into it to hack like a mofo on crack!
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1902	Posted - 2014.02.13 13:29:00 - [17] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: My MinLogi is sad because he's the squishiest of all Logis and that his new role will be relegated to that of a chubby chaser... I didn't skill into Logistics to follow fatbros around. I skilled into it to hack like a mofo on crack! This is the only reason why I am retiring my Minmatar Logistics suit :/ I love this suit. For the Federation!
Sirius Lupin65 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 13	Posted - 2014.02.13 14:12:00 - [18] - Quote I seriously have no Idea what Youre talking about. I pretty much use my 'sver' Minmatar logistics dropsuit 70% of the time and Im either on first place of the scoreboard or on the top 5 and have a K/D of 1.95 ( not that I really care) So yeah, even with the 'sver' suit, which is the equivalent of a basic Minmatar logistics suit you can do more than good if you know how to use it. The other 29% of the time I use the advanced min logi suit, and if im feeling frisky. I'll use the proto min logi that remaining 1% of the time
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 761	Posted - 2014.02.13 14:26:00 - [19] - Quote 'Sever' logistics: basic CR, RE,M1 grenades, adv scanner, basic hives, 2 basic armor plates (One is MLT BPO to further reduce cost) and complex shields. 500+ EHP, same speed as a standard assault suit without biotics or armor plates: $18000 STD Minmatar assault: Basic CR, toxin SMG, basic locus grenades, RE, MLT BPO armor plate, 3 comples shields: 500+ EHP, still slightly faster than a standard assault suit without biotics or armor plates: $16000 Generally in the top 5 Current KDR (for those of you that actually care about silly stats like that, personally I want ISK efficiency lost/destroyed) 3.0 There's some things that money can't buy, for everything else, there's Minmatar. In rust we trust. Minmatar before it was cool. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1074	Posted - 2014.02.13 14:31:00 - [20] - Quote i run minmatar exclusivly :P Assault 2x complex damage mods 3x complex extenders combat rifle smg flux 2x enhanced plates compact nanohive now go own people and make sure you have 4 or higher proficiany



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