DUST Search - Scout to Heavy

Llast 326 wrote:

Yan Darn wrote:

Bojo The Mighty wrote:

Scouts are also very good at Point defense look up Cyrius Li Moody's video on it.

We're defending it and you don't even know bro.

^ (he keeps saying things that are true!)

If I spec'ed into another suit, it'd be a heavy - I imagine vastly different things will be learnt playin each that would improve your game with both.

It is difficult to imagine what is going through a heavies mind when I face them - its not like facing assaults though, a greater proportion of heavies seem to acknowledge their weaknesses, than med frames.

Med frames are reliably overconfident.

It's why I respect fatties as much as fellow scouts.

I have similar thoughts about Heavies.
I enjoy coming up against them when I am taking a remote point, some very cool battles evolve from these encounters Cool

It's also fun defending a point as a scout with a Heavy as Backup/Bait, the dynamic that can happen in defence can become virtually unstoppable Pirate

Just try flanking that Fat kid, when a scout has his chubby back Pirate

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Kiriasis Draca Ultramarine Corp 113	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:09:00 - [1] - Quote Hardest change I've ever made was my scout suit to a heavy suit. But, I can see the reason why Heavies are so integral to holding a point. It's kinda heady knowing you've got a logi suit behind you with a rep tool while you unload the bullet hose on the guys pushing in to take your point. However, I dislike not being able to jump over a piece of paper. :( Unfortunately, my love affair with the Nova knives and SMG does not lead me towards running heavy suits often enough to be super effective. Oh well :) I know. This has nothing useful in it, but it's just my thoughts.
Tectonic Fusion 1049	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:11:00 - [2] - Quote Kiriasis Draca wrote: Hardest change I've ever made was my scout suit to a heavy suit. But, I can see the reason why Heavies are so integral to holding a point. It's kinda heady knowing you've got a logi suit behind you with a rep tool while you unload the bullet hose on the guys pushing in to take your point. However, I dislike not being able to jump over a piece of paper. :( Unfortunately, my love affair with the Nova knives and SMG does not lead me towards running heavy suits often enough to be super effective. Oh well :) I know. This has nothing useful in it, but it's just my thoughts. I did it a week ago. And I effective play as both. Scout is for uplinks and rage kills, while the heavy suit is for point defense and 1 on 1 combat in close quarters. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 33	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:13:00 - [3] - Quote Going from Heavy to Scout is such a smooth change, on the other hand. How the hell can you guys not just kill everything with that speed?! I flanked everyone and gunned em down, heavies and PRO gear a like. SMG + Scout suit = scary. Especially if they have a ScR and use it to one shot your shields then switch to SMG. o.0
Kiriasis Draca Ultramarine Corp 113	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:13:00 - [4] - Quote Fair enough. I adjusted from sniper to assault, then to logi, then to assault scout. It's fun. I'm sure that eventually the heavy fit will work out for me effectively :)
Kiriasis Draca Ultramarine Corp 113	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:15:00 - [5] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: Going from Heavy to Scout is such a smooth change, on the other hand. How the hell can you guys not just kill everything with that speed?! I flanked everyone and gunned em down, heavies and PRO gear a like. SMG + Scout suit = scary. Especially if they have a ScR and use it to one shot your shields then switch to SMG. o.0 Scrambler rifles aren't always the best option with scouts. But the one shot to weaken is a good thought.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 3132	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:15:00 - [6] - Quote Scouts are also very good at Point defense look up Cyrius Li Moody's video on it. We're defending it and you don't even know bro. Please deposit likes in Swiss Bank account. The Feds don't ensure beyond 3k.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1974	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:16:00 - [7] - Quote I remember getting nk by you while hacking but to late return and pop you with a charged shot from my Scr to being sniped by your N-11 at which I looked at the leader boards to see whose on my team and with a sad face I rage quite that match. "But we have been blessed"
Kiriasis Draca Ultramarine Corp 113	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:18:00 - [8] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: I remember getting nk by you while hacking but to late return and pop you with a charged shot from my Scr to being sniped by your N-11 at which I looked at the leader boards to see whose on my team and with a sad face I rage quite that match. I was wondering where you had gone, I remember you getting me with a headshot with your scrambler and thinking ARGGGGHHH!!!
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 359	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:22:00 - [9] - Quote Kiriasis Draca wrote: Hardest change I've ever made was my scout suit to a heavy suit. But, I can see the reason why Heavies are so integral to holding a point. It's kinda heady knowing you've got a logi suit behind you with a rep tool while you unload the bullet hose on the guys pushing in to take your point. However, I dislike not being able to jump over a piece of paper. :( Unfortunately, my love affair with the Nova knives and SMG does not lead me towards running heavy suits often enough to be super effective. Oh well :) I know. This has nothing useful in it, but it's just my thoughts. Same here, I'm quickly surprised by how quickly I adapted. But man this event is going to be looooong, I suck with an HMG, and passable with a FG. Forge sniping tower snipers will keep me coming back to this fit, only if they allowed a 1.5x zoom on this thing. 32db Mad Bomber.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1974	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:23:00 - [10] - Quote Kiriasis Draca wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I remember getting nk by you while hacking but to late return and pop you with a charged shot from my Scr to being sniped by your N-11 at which I looked at the leader boards to see whose on my team and with a sad face I rage quite that match. I was wondering where you had gone, I remember you getting me with a headshot with your scrambler and thinking ARGGGGHHH!!! Nope those were body shots, Pro 4 "But we have been blessed"

Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 669	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:25:00 - [11] - Quote I went from a speed tanked Minmatar Scout to an armor tanked Amarr Sentinel. Of course, I made the switch before armor was buffed, before Heavy suits got the HP buff, and before the HMG was fixed. It was nice to get into a suit/role that wasn't awful.
Kiriasis Draca Ultramarine Corp 113	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:38:00 - [12] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Kiriasis Draca wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: I remember getting nk by you while hacking but to late return and pop you with a charged shot from my Scr to being sniped by your N-11 at which I looked at the leader boards to see whose on my team and with a sad face I rage quite that match. I was wondering where you had gone, I remember you getting me with a headshot with your scrambler and thinking ARGGGGHHH!!! Nope those were body shots, Pro 4 ah, nice!
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 886	Posted - 2014.02.13 06:05:00 - [13] - Quote I like your post! Very true. As a heavy I am full of moments like: "wtf! should not have I seen you behind that corner on my passive?! Where did that guy come from? and that one? and that one? WTF!!" PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
calvin b Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 1458	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:19:00 - [14] - Quote Yes the jumping part does suck. Here is how to make the heavy fun. One get an LAV and have a really good driver 2. Grab three heavy friends with HMG's and tank the S* out of the suits. 3. Drive around until you find a group of reds clustered up. Now reds see LAV they think they know what is about to unfold, but do they really. Drive the LAV as fast as you can right at them, at the count of three all heavies leave the vehicle and begin to spray anyone in sight. Most do not expect three heavies to jump out with HMG's spraying bullets, it so F*** hilarious watching them scatter and looking like sheep. It never fails, there is always those reds that have the look of deer in headlights. Shocked and amazed as three fat guys jump out of a clown car. For even more insanity, strap RE's on the front and drive it straight at them. Bail and watch the dumb ass's shoot the car, easy +50's all around. A heavy before 1.8
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2941	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:22:00 - [15] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Scouts are also very good at Point defense look up Cyrius Li Moody's video on it. We're defending it and you don't even know bro. The Best defense is the one they aren't expecting! Also, I make a cameo in that video Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2941	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:23:00 - [16] - Quote calvin b wrote: Yes the jumping part does suck. Here is how to make the heavy fun. One get an LAV and have a really good driver 2. Grab three heavy friends with HMG's and tank the S* out of the suits. 3. Drive around until you find a group of reds clustered up. Now reds see LAV they think they know what is about to unfold, but do they really. Drive the LAV as fast as you can right at them, at the count of three all heavies leave the vehicle and begin to spray anyone in sight. Most do not expect three heavies to jump out with HMG's spraying bullets, it so F* hilarious watching them scatter and looking like sheep. It never fails, there is always those reds that have the look of deer in headlights. Shocked and amazed as three fat guys jump out of a clown car. For even more insanity, strap RE's on the front and drive it straight at them. Bail and watch the dumb ass's shoot the car, easy +50's all around. You are the reason why I carry RE's Nothing says "FK YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 275	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:33:00 - [17] - Quote Put 3 red things and 1 green thing on your heavy on the right then toss a dam mod on the left. Weapon of choice is shotgun..Happy hunting!!!
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 121	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:46:00 - [18] - Quote honestly i hope you made a heavy/ scout on diferent characters but as that i am a professional heavy i made a scout alt (one must know his worst enemy ) an it has been a great experience it really lvl'd up my heavy game i think more rush less i do short flanks with my heavy now but yeah it is good to think like a scout whe playing a heavy but also playing like a heavy do this adyou will be a unstopable force Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden. KAMEHAMEHA professional Heavy for hire
Pickle Sniffer Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 41	Posted - 2014.02.13 13:05:00 - [19] - Quote After playing as a scout for so long, going to play the commando fit on my main feels like my feet are stuck in molasses...that and I'm blind!
Kiriasis Draca Ultramarine Corp 114	Posted - 2014.02.13 16:36:00 - [20] - Quote Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: honestly i hope you made a heavy/ scout on diferent characters but as that i am a professional heavy i made a scout alt (one must know his worst enemy ) an it has been a great experience it really lvl'd up my heavy game i think more rush less i do short flanks with my heavy now but yeah it is good to think like a scout whe playing a heavy but also playing like a heavy do this adyou will be a unstopable force I had originally planned to go into commando suits when they first came out so I've had points in heavy for a while. My Heavy game is in bursts, but I have learned a few interesting tricks that have transferred to my scout game. Over all, it's been a fantastic learning experience.

Kiriasis Draca Ultramarine Corp 114	Posted - 2014.02.13 16:38:00 - [21] - Quote calvin b wrote: Yes the jumping part does suck. Here is how to make the heavy fun. One get an LAV and have a really good driver 2. Grab three heavy friends with HMG's and tank the S* out of the suits. 3. Drive around until you find a group of reds clustered up. Now reds see LAV they think they know what is about to unfold, but do they really. Drive the LAV as fast as you can right at them, at the count of three all heavies leave the vehicle and begin to spray anyone in sight. Most do not expect three heavies to jump out with HMG's spraying bullets, it so F*** hilarious watching them scatter and looking like sheep. It never fails, there is always those reds that have the look of deer in headlights. Shocked and amazed as three fat guys jump out of a clown car. For even more insanity, strap RE's on the front and drive it straight at them. Bail and watch the dumb ass's shoot the car, easy +50's all around. I ran reps on you on a match last night, you were holding a supply depot. Not enough heavies on the map to jump in a lav that time.
Kiriasis Draca Ultramarine Corp 114	Posted - 2014.02.13 17:06:00 - [22] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Kiriasis Draca wrote: Hardest change I've ever made was my scout suit to a heavy suit. But, I can see the reason why Heavies are so integral to holding a point. It's kinda heady knowing you've got a logi suit behind you with a rep tool while you unload the bullet hose on the guys pushing in to take your point. However, I dislike not being able to jump over a piece of paper. :( Unfortunately, my love affair with the Nova knives and SMG does not lead me towards running heavy suits often enough to be super effective. Oh well :) I know. This has nothing useful in it, but it's just my thoughts. Same here, I'm quickly surprised by how quickly I adapted. But man this event is going to be looooong, I suck with an HMG, and passable with a FG. Forge sniping tower snipers will keep me coming back to this fit, only if they allowed a 1.5x zoom on this thing. I do enjoy the forge gun, the glowing disco ball of death makes my day.
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 209	Posted - 2014.02.13 17:18:00 - [23] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Scouts are also very good at Point defense look up Cyrius Li Moody's video on it. We're defending it and you don't even know bro. ^ (he keeps saying things that are true!) If I spec'ed into another suit, it'd be a heavy - I imagine vastly different things will be learnt playin each that would improve your game with both. It is difficult to imagine what is going through a heavies mind when I face them - its not like facing assaults though, a greater proportion of heavies seem to acknowledge their weaknesses, than med frames. Med frames are reliably overconfident. It's why I respect fatties as much as fellow scouts. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
Kiriasis Draca Ultramarine Corp 114	Posted - 2014.02.13 17:26:00 - [24] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Scouts are also very good at Point defense look up Cyrius Li Moody's video on it. We're defending it and you don't even know bro. I like running point defense in my scout suit, sometimes it's a blast, other times it isn't. lol.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1853	Posted - 2014.02.13 17:27:00 - [25] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Scouts are also very good at Point defense look up Cyrius Li Moody's video on it. We're defending it and you don't even know bro. ^ (he keeps saying things that are true!) If I spec'ed into another suit, it'd be a heavy - I imagine vastly different things will be learnt playin each that would improve your game with both. It is difficult to imagine what is going through a heavies mind when I face them - its not like facing assaults though, a greater proportion of heavies seem to acknowledge their weaknesses, than med frames. Med frames are reliably overconfident. It's why I respect fatties as much as fellow scouts. I have similar thoughts about Heavies. I enjoy coming up against them when I am taking a remote point, some very cool battles evolve from these encounters It's also fun defending a point as a scout with a Heavy as Backup/Bait, the dynamic that can happen in defence can become virtually unstoppable Just try flanking that Fat kid, when a scout has his chubby back KRRROOOOOOM
Kiriasis Draca Ultramarine Corp 117	Posted - 2014.02.13 17:32:00 - [26] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Yan Darn wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Scouts are also very good at Point defense look up Cyrius Li Moody's video on it. We're defending it and you don't even know bro. ^ (he keeps saying things that are true!) If I spec'ed into another suit, it'd be a heavy - I imagine vastly different things will be learnt playin each that would improve your game with both. It is difficult to imagine what is going through a heavies mind when I face them - its not like facing assaults though, a greater proportion of heavies seem to acknowledge their weaknesses, than med frames. Med frames are reliably overconfident. It's why I respect fatties as much as fellow scouts. I have similar thoughts about Heavies. I enjoy coming up against them when I am taking a remote point, some very cool battles evolve from these encounters It's also fun defending a point as a scout with a Heavy as Backup/Bait, the dynamic that can happen in defence can become virtually unstoppable Just try flanking that Fat kid, when a scout has his chubby back Love it! I try to keep an eye on my heavies backs and they attempt to not shoot me in FW when I dart around in front of them to throw grenades. The downside is the insta-blend that can happen by running in front of a friendly hmg without noticing. But knock on wood I've only had one HMG death via friendly since they started friendly fire in FW.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 941	Posted - 2014.02.13 17:39:00 - [27] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Just try flanking that Fat kid, when a scout has his chubby back Ooo, interesting. never thought about that. Particularly if the scout has a long range (rifle) weapon, AND a rep tool, equipped. Lolz?


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