and then why should i risk my assests if not for a bigger isk/sp payout. for the non scrub's it promotes hard work in a match.

Dont bring me down because the obvious space monkey didnt know how to operate his gun.

No one can see the shackles this failed game mechanic has wrought for this game?

Everyone's content with the simple ability to farm SP for the sole reason of farming more SP, regardless of its impact on the gameplay?

Good Idea reward the guy who goes 1-15 with 50 WP by accomplishing nothing and punish the guy who gets 30 kills and 2500 warpoints by giving them the same SP.

What a dumbass idea, its why FW is so broken I get more LP in gallente/minmatar for AFKing then I do for posting 30+plus kills and 2500+ WP in amarr/caldari.

Agreed, OP.

It'd need to be a significant difference, though, because otherwise why bother? I'd need like a 1.5x difference for victory over defeat.

As is, play is optimised over the most efficient WP gathering. This is why we can't have triage points for vehicles, for example.
So maybe work it so that you get 4sp/s on a loss, and 6 or 7/s on a win? this'd keep me on par with current earnings on a win, and make me actually try in battles.

We'd see much less equipment spam, and maybe some decently-placed uplinks :)

If you want to talk about abuse of mechanics lets talk about PC isk farming with little risk. Lets talk about people attacking their own districts so they can farm 90+ mins worth of war points - capping out in one single match.

This has been a problem in the game for a long time. Thankfully a WTF dude released some videos of this on youtube.

It makes me mad to be honest. I have to grind my ass off for tiny 5-10k sp per battle while others sit in one single match and can cap out for the week. We talk about imbalance but lets be honest this game is built on foundations of imbalance if you ask me.

I dont mean to sound bitter but I just cant help it. I like this game and want it to fulfil its potential already!

It's really simple.

SP earnings from WP is there so that people can't just afk in pubs for SP (not as easily anyway).

Also, haven't you ever noticed that most of your SP comes from time in battle? One second gets you 5 SP. One WP gets you one SP. It's easier to cap out by afk-ing in pubs than it is to play for 2-4 hours per day.

For one, i think you mistook my idea of a static SP as less then what you earn now. I feel the SP gained at the end of each match should be larger then it is, for both losing and winning with as much WP as you could possibly earn SP for.

Second, why do you care if the guy did nothing the whole game and get SP? Gaining SP isn't the purpose of this game. Winning and losing is to the detriment of the EVE universe (soonTM), not your SP accrual. If you won the game with your squad, and he tagged along like a useless lout...that simply speaks more of your skill.

The same bad apples that AFK currently, will still AFK if WP's did not dictate SP. But what would happen is that the people who solely farm WP in games and care nothing about winning or losing, will have an inclination to try for the win.

Your 30+ kills and 2500+ WP will tell everyone you put a great effort into the match. The knowledge that you did well isn't enough to satisfy you?

The only point I agree with is larger SP gains then we currently have, but the players who contribute more deserve more then the guys who contribute less.

Say you are a car salesmen and two car dealerships want to hire you.
dealership (A) Gives the top seller salesman the largest bonus at the end of the quarter and the worst preforming salesmen get the smallest bonus

dealership (B) Gives every salesman the same bonus regardless of amount of sales each salesman makes

1) Who does the amazing salesman want to work for?
2) Who does the average salesman want to work for?

Sorry but i'm not interested in **** players who contribute nothing and getting the same SP as I get for carrying the team.

You aren't working at a job when playing Dust. You are comparing apples to oranges. You are in a fantasy world that has issues that need to be balanced. The real world is the most unbalanced existence imaginable, where the strongest forces in the world have the best Proto equipment to **** on the less fortunate with.

But since you want to use a real world example that has no similarities at all, let me use an example more related.

If you joined the Marines and became the top marksmen in your class, then went on a joint mission with your squad and you protected them while they did whatever they had to do, racked up more kills then anyone on the team and saved all their lives,

Do you get a larger paycheck than the rest of your squadmates?

The amount of time you have to invest in to unlock every thing is insane, 7 years for the most no life basement dweller to get every skill to level 5. The SP grind of dust feels like a job, or else you fall behind the pack.

Also your example of the marines is also invalid.

We are mercenaries and the best mercenaries command better pay then the worst mercenaries.

With what you are suggesting you might as well just have only passive SP. Not every player is as fortunate as I am to be in a corp that has active players in every timezone to be able to squad up with. I even enjoy running solo to have to rely on my own skill but with your system I would get punished for losing a match even If I posted 30+ kills and 3000+ WP, The loss was no fault of my own but because my teammates were terrible I get less SP for their failure.

How much sp are we talking here?