Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:23:00 -
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I for one hope not, this is also entirely opinion based.
I missed when the story was driven by the chronicles and news pieces of smaller events, not so grandiose like a Hollywood movie. Pre novel story telling was more akin to just living in the world of new eden with fallible human factions with relatively stable ideas/values and the very possible/realistic political conflicts that arise between them, along with everyday living and the complications that arise in a sometimes not so friendly atmosphere. It had a lot of smaller stories with more believable transitions instead of major plot reveals and gigantic shifts of epic proportions that shake the founding of everything, the novels on the other hand tend to very large stories and get off on twisting existing lore for shock value which usually damages current lore creating unbelievable relations due to the game "not changing" along with it. If we were to take up the novels (especially Templar one), who on earth would believe ishukone would have the same relations with the Caldari State, either trying to take over the whole state or breaking off from the state? Or the major ground shifting revelations and demystification around the dead races?
It's as if Eve is transitioning from a game of thrones story to super hero movie. Not that super hero based movies aren't enjoyable with its own intricacies but its a form of an appeal to the masses with a very Hollywood over the top form of storytelling with less concerns with plausible human reactions.
Again, just my opinion, I'm sure its no where near universal, while I was sharing why I am not a fan of the novels, I was curious if these are just fun fictions projects or if they are indeed wholeheartedly integrated into the EVE lore.
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.02.13 04:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:True Adamance wrote:
I asked this last night. They are cannon, but are not respected as much as other cannon.
I don't understand why they would give that much power to a single individual to reclassify the lore / ideas of each of the empires according to his whim/perspective compared to smaller story writers which had to accept the rules of the given environment and drive the story by character interaction, life conflicts, and political intrigue. I don't understand the Ishukone thing. They aren't Patriot, they are Liberals so of course they would like to take the Liberal bloc from its current status to the power behind the State, either that or break off and retain their own sense of individuality.
I was just using examples but to explain what I mean,
I'm aware of their affiliation, but the conflict between the state and Ishukone's direct violation and forging the Mord/Fed/Ish alliance in stealing Immortal tech was a pretty major decision, which technically makes all Caldari Dusters Ishokone's lackeys of sorts. Also assuming they were actually able to go back into the fold into the state, the sheer discrepancy of power they have would literally be more than the rest of the corporations combined, the initial cloning tech pulled them from nobody to something and then the immortal tech would either give then a sole advantage or the profit margin for use would skyrocket them to pharaoh status. Again Ishokone would either A) separate or B) Take over the State due to their economic, military, and technical dominance. The idea that they would not capitalize off of it or somehow still remain subordinate is highly unlikely considering the power difference and the fact that they don't have the biggest bloc (or why the other megas wouldn't have an issue with or conflicts with their actions), it was a plot device which apparently had zero effect on any relations within the State. Something which is more than a stretch of the imagination.
Again it doesn't translate into "book wasn't entertaining", but the reactions of the characters in the story despite how major or plot explosive, do not change at all because they remain the same in the game. Meaning the plot twists in the book compromise on real reactions because they don't base the game of the books, the books are based on the game and when you go into larger than life stories, there are going to be gaps.
Using a ridiculous example, if a novel came out about an alien invasion in New Eden, the aliens attacked and then were wiped out, would we expect nothing to change in the game? No alliance shift? New divides or ending old conflicts? Instead of "aliens" you can add any massive plot twist or turning point in the novels.
Vs using small scale stories of merc/capsuleer surviving xyz againt raider band abc in the environment which has no massive repercussions, which allows for other mercs to A) have their own story and B) seem much more plausible for the consistent nature of faction relations as they remain static in game.
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