DUST Search - Let me show you how much MM is not "fixed"

Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

Ghosts Chance wrote:

Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

Xander Mercy wrote:

ccp cant fix sucky blue dots

If you take 50 pennies a toss them in the air odds are that roughly 25 will land on heads and 25 on tails. Just got out of my fifth strait loss (went 10/2 literally took out 1/5 of their clones by my self and we still lost). Why does match making ALWAYS put me in with a buch of ******* losers (if you'll pardon my frustration). I mean, it does this to me ALL THE TIME! You want to fix something about match making CCP why don't you start with that?

in my experiance that means that your the problem....

Say what? How am I part of the problem?

Ghosts Chance wrote:

also the only solution is 30min - 1 hour que times, so unless your volenteering to wait an hour for every match you want to play so that we can ensure that your paired up with and against scrubs like you want to be you should probably just let this one go.

My last game was all ransoms on both sides, how do you figure it would take an hour to better organize these two teams in a balanced manner. It is quite simple make a 32 man team then divide them into two teams based on whatever balancing rules are programmed in. This is obviously not being done.

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Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1204	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:26:00 - [1] - Quote So, just got through playing in my third game since match macking was "fixed". All three were played in the last hour in ambush. All three were bad losses. Here's the leaderboard from the last game: Our team 0/2 2/2 2/4 6/1 (that's me in a Dren scout with an std RR) 2/3 5/4 3/6 4/3 3/2 2/7 2/2 1/2 1/3 0/5 0/5 0/0 Their team 9/1 9/2 5/2 6/3 6/1 5/1 2/0 4/3 2/2 1/2 2/2 4/2 0/4 2/2 0/4 0/2 {:)}{3GÇó>
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 4995	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:28:00 - [2] - Quote Seems to me that they pit squads vs squads, which is good, but the squads on my team usually suck :( > GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥ -Oscar Wilde
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1206	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:30:00 - [3] - Quote Enemy team had a squad. As far as I could tell we did not. {:)}{3GÇó>
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1060	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:31:00 - [4] - Quote seems like the hotfix worked both teams have 16 players and the game filled up after members of yoru team inevitably left the game. if you were wondering the hotfix was to fix games having uneven teams, starting without filling teams, and failing to refill teams when players leave game, it in now way was to prevent you from being teamed up with scrubs, as you are a scrub yourself so in order for that to work we would have to give you a 1 hour que time while the big boys play.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:32:00 - [5] - Quote ccp cant fix sucky blue dots
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 771	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:32:00 - [6] - Quote I want to point out that these isn't what CCP's matchmaking bug fix was meant to fix but I also want everyone to keep getting angry over this so they actually do something about it, so.... carry on. Edit: Shut up people that are pointing out what the bug fix was meant to fix; you're squandering a perfect opportunity. Support Orbital Spawns
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5716	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:32:00 - [7] - Quote Please read the hotfix note. Quote: * Bug fix: Matchmaking - battles would sometimes remain imbalanced throughout the end due to teams not being filled in correctly. I count a total of 32 scores in your post, meaning the hotfix is working as intended. MM still sucks though. Never forget May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1206	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:53:00 - [8] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: ccp cant fix sucky blue dots If you take 50 pennies and toss them in the air odds are that roughly 25 will land on heads and 25 on tails. Just got out of my fifth strait loss (went 10/2 literally took out 1/5 of their clones by my self and we still lost). Why does match making ALWAYS put me in with a buch of ******* losers (if you'll pardon my frustration). I mean, it does this to me ALL THE TIME! You want to fix something about match making CCP why don't you start with that? {:)}{3GÇó>
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1060	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:56:00 - [9] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: ccp cant fix sucky blue dots If you take 50 pennies a toss them in the air odds are that roughly 25 will land on heads and 25 on tails. Just got out of my fifth strait loss (went 10/2 literally took out 1/5 of their clones by my self and we still lost). Why does match making ALWAYS put me in with a buch of ******* losers (if you'll pardon my frustration). I mean, it does this to me ALL THE TIME! You want to fix something about match making CCP why don't you start with that? in my experiance that means that your the problem.... also the only solution is 30min - 1 hour que times, so unless your volenteering to wait an hour for every match you want to play so that we can ensure that your paired up with and against scrubs like you want to be you should probably just let this one go.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1206	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:04:00 - [10] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: ccp cant fix sucky blue dots If you take 50 pennies a toss them in the air odds are that roughly 25 will land on heads and 25 on tails. Just got out of my fifth strait loss (went 10/2 literally took out 1/5 of their clones by my self and we still lost). Why does match making ALWAYS put me in with a buch of ***** losers (if you'll pardon my frustration). I mean, it does this to me ALL THE TIME! You want to fix something about match making CCP why don't you start with that? in my experiance that means that your the problem.... Say what? How am I part of the problem? Ghosts Chance wrote:** also the only solution is 30min - 1 hour que times, so unless your volenteering to wait an hour for every match you want to play so that we can ensure that your paired up with and against scrubs like you want to be you should probably just let this one go. My last game was all ransoms on both sides, how do you figure it would take an hour to better organize these two teams in a balanced manner. It is quite simple make a 32 man team then divide them into two teams based on whatever balancing rules are programmed in. This is obviously not being done. {:)}{3GÇó>

Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1060	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:11:00 - [11] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: ccp cant fix sucky blue dots If you take 50 pennies a toss them in the air odds are that roughly 25 will land on heads and 25 on tails. Just got out of my fifth strait loss (went 10/2 literally took out 1/5 of their clones by my self and we still lost). Why does match making ALWAYS put me in with a buch of ***** losers (if you'll pardon my frustration). I mean, it does this to me ALL THE TIME! You want to fix something about match making CCP why don't you start with that? in my experiance that means that your the problem.... Say what? How am I part of the problem? Ghosts Chance wrote:** also the only solution is 30min - 1 hour que times, so unless your volenteering to wait an hour for every match you want to play so that we can ensure that your paired up with and against scrubs like you want to be you should probably just let this one go. My last game was all ransoms on both sides, how do you figure it would take an hour to better organize these two teams in a balanced manner. It is quite simple make a 32 man team then divide them into two teams based on whatever balancing rules are programmed in. This is obviously not being done. its not done because you would have to split up squads... other then that it IS being done :P im consistantly paired up against nyian/ AE / and all those lovely proto loving corps and NEVER on their team... your welcome
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 852	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:12:00 - [12] - Quote That hotfix. I do not think it was meant to do what you think it was meant to do.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 493	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:14:00 - [13] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: All three were played in the last hour in ambush. There's your problem. Ambush is a broken game mode. We want cake and tea.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1206	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:16:00 - [14] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: its not done because you would have to split up squads... other then that it IS being done :P im consistantly paired up against nyian/ AE / and all those lovely proto loving corps and NEVER on their team... your welcome It can be done. They are just not doing it right. Give me a crack at the math involved, bet you I could fix it. {:)}{3GÇó>
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 167	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:24:00 - [15] - Quote to many variables for what you want for instance if you go by say 1)war points could be "skilled" or they could just be a vet that never got good but just likes to play 2) KDR could be a "skilled" player or a red line sniper/ rail gunner or if they have a low krd they could be dedicated logi that repairs more then shoots or a speed hacker scout that only cares about grabbing points behind enemy lines 3) W/L could be a "skilled" player or a crap blueberry that ends up on the right team 80% of the time
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1060	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:24:00 - [16] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its not done because you would have to split up squads... other then that it IS being done :P im consistantly paired up against nyian/ AE / and all those lovely proto loving corps and NEVER on their team... your welcome It can be done. They are just not doing it right. Give me a crack at the math involved, bet you I could fix it. there are two types of people, those who know how matchmaking works, and those who never ever want to fight against the big boys and will insist its broken unless those players are not alowed to ever enter a game against them.... guess what type you are.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1206	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:30:00 - [17] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its not done because you would have to split up squads... other then that it IS being done :P im consistantly paired up against nyian/ AE / and all those lovely proto loving corps and NEVER on their team... your welcome It can be done. They are just not doing it right. Give me a crack at the math involved, bet you I could fix it. there are two types of people, those who know how matchmaking works, and those who never ever want to fight against the big boys and will insist its broken unless those players are not alowed to ever enter a game against them.... guess what type you are. It has nothing to do with me not wanting to "fight the big boys". It's about me wanting the rest of my team to pull their wait. {:)}{3GÇó>
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1061	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:32:00 - [18] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its not done because you would have to split up squads... other then that it IS being done :P im consistantly paired up against nyian/ AE / and all those lovely proto loving corps and NEVER on their team... your welcome It can be done. They are just not doing it right. Give me a crack at the math involved, bet you I could fix it. there are two types of people, those who know how matchmaking works, and those who never ever want to fight against the big boys and will insist its broken unless those players are not alowed to ever enter a game against them.... guess what type you are. It has nothing to do with me not wanting to "fight the big boys". It's about me wanting the rest of my team to pull their wait. at any one time theres only so many of those players you speak of queing up for a game... that number is not very high. and so basically to get what you want those people you dont want to fight would be stuck with half hour or longer que times. in short your just being a ****.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood 468	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:34:00 - [19] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Seems to me that they pit squads vs squads, which is good, but the squads on my team usually suck :( no its KDR vsing WPDR you'll see one site get all the F*ing kills and the other gets all the war points ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1206	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:34:00 - [20] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: to many variables for what you want for instance if you go by say 1)war points could be "skilled" or they could just be a vet that never got good but just likes to play 2) KDR could be a "skilled" player or a red line sniper/ rail gunner or if they have a low krd they could be dedicated logi that repairs more then shoots or a speed hacker scout that only cares about grabbing points behind enemy lines 3) W/L could be a "skilled" player or a crap blueberry that ends up on the right team 80% of the time Doesn't sound like to many variables to me. Like I said put me in charge of the math on this, and watch me fix it. {:)}{3GÇó>

Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1206	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:36:00 - [21] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: its not done because you would have to split up squads... other then that it IS being done :P im consistantly paired up against nyian/ AE / and all those lovely proto loving corps and NEVER on their team... your welcome It can be done. They are just not doing it right. Give me a crack at the math involved, bet you I could fix it. there are two types of people, those who know how matchmaking works, and those who never ever want to fight against the big boys and will insist its broken unless those players are not alowed to ever enter a game against them.... guess what type you are. It has nothing to do with me not wanting to "fight the big boys". It's about me wanting the rest of my team to pull their wait. at any one time theres only so many of those players you speak of queing up for a game... that number is not very high. and so basically to get what you want those people you dont want to fight would be stuck with half hour or longer que times. in short your just being a ****. Nope wrong. {:)}{3GÇó>
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1945	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:39:00 - [22] - Quote Not what the fix was for, is a fix to empty matches. 1-5 before fix 12-12 16-16 15-15 16-16 after I'd say it works Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 167	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:43:00 - [23] - Quote pssh most of you dont even know what a pub stomp is try going against two squads of the best old school imps am talking aldian kan, zitro, young cuz, god nova, regyum, ludwig vanbeatdroppin, kain, william hbonny, and the others who i didn't mention. Squads were four man back then by the way. ps sorry if i spelled your names wrong.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1062	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:48:00 - [24] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Nope wrong. my math states that currently there are JUST enough people online to create a new game for each game mode every 48 seconds or so. (margin of error of about 20 seconds due to reasons) wich means without forcing wait times onto players 48 second wait time is the benchmark. the average player seems to end up waiting minuite or two before re queing for games if in a squad, but tends to re que faster if alone, so squads are enterting games slower then solo players. not only that but the vast majority of players are solo (checking the team chat at the start of games gives this one away) so lets say that every minuite or so theres enough players for a game. most of those players will be solo, you will have one maybe two squads available for a game. right now it just trys to balance the teams with that small player pool to keep wait times down, wich produces the results you see and in order to improve that, the higher ranking players would have to recieve an increased wait timer so that the matchmaking system can find a more suitable match, unfortunatly that would likely result in 20-30 minuite wait times and those players would most likely end up fighting the same people over and over and over again if they want any shorter wait time because if they all re-que at the same time it will result in a shorter que. this is all with basic math and ZERO work on an actual matchmaking equasion, because lets face it its not the equasion thats the problem, its the shallow player pool. and your lack of understanding of this makes it VERY clear that givin the oportunity to hendle the problem yourself you would not be able to solve a thing.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1206	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:57:00 - [25] - Quote Just got through with my 8th strait loss. {:)}{3GÇó>
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1062	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:00:00 - [26] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Just got through with my 8th strait loss. your definatly apart of the problem, theres no way you can lose that many games and be good.
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 416	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:03:00 - [27] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: ccp cant fix sucky blue dots If you take 50 pennies a toss them in the air odds are that roughly 25 will land on heads and 25 on tails. Just got out of my fifth strait loss (went 10/2 literally took out 1/5 of their clones by my self and we still lost). Why does match making ALWAYS put me in with a buch of ***** losers (if you'll pardon my frustration). I mean, it does this to me ALL THE TIME! You want to fix something about match making CCP why don't you start with that? in my experiance that means that your the problem.... Say what? How am I part of the problem? Ghosts Chance wrote:** also the only solution is 30min - 1 hour que times, so unless your volenteering to wait an hour for every match you want to play so that we can ensure that your paired up with and against scrubs like you want to be you should probably just let this one go. My last game was all ransoms on both sides, how do you figure it would take an hour to better organize these two teams in a balanced manner. It is quite simple make a 32 man team then divide them into two teams based on whatever balancing rules are programmed in. This is obviously not being done. So, what you're saying is that this game that has a massive core section built around Corporations, organised cooperative play, should stop people from being organised and make them all deploy solo with their Corporation just used as a social center. Excellent! Really tip top input their Son! On top of which you based your stupendously brilliant observations on the state of matchmaking by the outcome of 3 matches What you should be pushing for is for equipment tiered pub games, basic level being the Dust equivalent of EvE's high sec, and each equipment level above would be the equivalent of dropping in security rating. Faction warfare and planetary conquest can be the Null Sec equivalent. This game is designed around teamwork, not solo play. Sorry for repeating myself but I just want to make sure you understand this fact. And just in case you don't know, CCP are wanting to bring out full team deployment for the likes of FW. Squad deployment is here to stay so you're going to have to get a bit creative on solving your issue with it. Hey, here's an idea, join a squad through your own corp, public chat rooms, or even squad finder As a last thing, what's this ransoming feature that everyone was doing in your last game. I'm not familiar with it but it sounds interesting. Sorry. I couldn't help myself
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1206	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:04:00 - [28] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Just got through with my 8th strait loss. your definatly apart of the problem, theres no way you can lose that many games and be good. Well I think that my kill count and leader board placement would beg to differ. {:)}{3GÇó>
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1063	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:10:00 - [29] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Just got through with my 8th strait loss. your definatly apart of the problem, theres no way you can lose that many games and be good. Well I think that my kill count and leader board placement would beg to differ. the thing you dont understand is... thats not hard to do, and it doesnt win games on its own. also lolSPAMBUSH... you lose unless you bring 6 tanks to the game wich you arnt doing and so your bad. dont want to roll tanks in tankbush? dont play tankbush your one of those idiots who doesnt bring uplinks to domination arnt you your losing becuase your not bringing the right tools for the job, not becuase of matchmaking.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1206	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:17:00 - [30] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: So, what you're saying is that this game that has a massive core section built around Corporations, organised cooperative play, should stop people from being organised and make them all deploy solo with their Corporation just used as a social center. Excellent! Please do tell when I said this? Stopped reading after that. Your obviously a moron. {:)}{3GÇó>



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