DUST Search - Why isn't there a public roadmap?

Namirial Kensai wrote:

Texs Red wrote:

Last I heard the new EP will be revealing the new roadmap during Fanfest.

If your an EVE player, then you should know what "roadmap" means in CCP.

It means "this is what we want the game to roughly look like someday maybe next decade we have no idea", and then they throw out some pretty ideas and videos that will never come to be.

Or hell, theyll do to DUST what they did to EVE, they'll show a video of mercs storming out of a dropship onto the surface of a titan in space, breaking in hauling a nuclear warhead on the back of a mech, charging through blazing corridors to the core, and destroying the titan.
they'll say "its in development, youll have it next year".
when next year rolls around, nstead of implementing this new form of combat into the game your playing, instead theyll come out with an Xbox One exclusive that requires a whole new account with minimal interaction in DUST, and say "hey, we said we promised combat in spaceships, we just didnt say it was going to be IN dust"

because thats what they did to EVE, DUST, a game on a console the majority of the playerbase didnt even own, was their version of "walking on planets" they ahd been proposing for EVE for years.

I guess what I'm saying is, dont expect anything amazing, because it will be a new game entirely that you cant play with your current character or hardware.

hell, DUST wont be getting any REAL aircraft, thats for Valkyrie, only playable with an oculus rift Evil

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Vulcanus Lightbringer Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 207	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:03:00 - [1] - Quote I'm really confused about this. What could possibly be the harm in letting us (the players) know what's coming down the line? It doesn't have to be specific either, just something like: April-May 2014: new heavy weapons Summer-Fall 2014: player-market Winter 2014-15: Skirmish 3.0 Incredibly broad stuff, no details at all basically, and if things have to be put on hold or delayed just update the roadmap every now and then. Really CCP, why not?
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 234	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:04:00 - [2] - Quote Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote: I'm really confused about this. What could possibly be the harm in letting us (the players) know what's coming down the line? It doesn't have to be specific either, just something like: April-May 2014: new heavy weapons Summer-Fall 2014: player-market Winter 2014-15: Skirmish 3.0 Incredibly broad stuff, no details at all basically, and if things have to be put on hold or delayed just update the roadmap every now and then. Really CCP, why not? You're hired! "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 259	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:12:00 - [3] - Quote They themselves have no idea what they're doing.
Atiim's ISK Pot Living Like Larry Schwag 0	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:17:00 - [4] - Quote They can't confirm that everything on the roadmap will come to be, and those that will won't be coming anytime soon. And you don't want to disappoint the playerbase. Trust me, it's much safer this way.
Debacle Nano BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 652	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:17:00 - [5] - Quote Hmm.. what should we change today...? Nah man we can do that next month! Closed beta anyone?
Chris F2112 Pradox One Proficiency V. 558	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:25:00 - [6] - Quote That provides accountability and a reason for us to be angry when deadlines are missed.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2539	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:25:00 - [7] - Quote Imagine the uproar that would happen when they failed to implement something on the road map, thats why not I sell my sword, I donGÇÖt give it away.
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 172	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:28:00 - [8] - Quote So if thy take 5 years worth of vacation time, causing them to push things back we won't riot
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2601	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:29:00 - [9] - Quote because things change and dust community b*tches and moans to much, showing they are not able to deal with changes. Selling Templar BPO's(325Mil) Richest Dust corp per capita, 100% corp activity ;-)
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5716	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:30:00 - [10] - Quote Probably because all of the threads that would exist in a "Roadmap Subforum" would be titled "Name Redacted - NDA". Never forget May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 197	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:31:00 - [11] - Quote Last I heard the new EP will be revealing the new roadmap during Fanfest.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1138	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:35:00 - [12] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Last I heard the new EP will be revealing the new roadmap during Fanfest. This, very probably. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Namirial Kensai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:43:00 - [13] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Last I heard the new EP will be revealing the new roadmap during Fanfest. If your an EVE player, then you should know what "roadmap" means in CCP. It means "this is what we want the game to roughly look like someday maybe next decade we have no idea", and then they throw out some pretty ideas and videos that will never come to be. Or hell, theyll do to DUST what they did to EVE, they'll show a video of mercs storming out of a dropship onto the surface of a titan in space, breaking in hauling a nuclear warhead on the back of a mech, charging through blazing corridors to the core, and destroying the titan. they'll say "its in development, youll have it next year". when next year rolls around, nstead of implementing this new form of combat into the game your playing, instead theyll come out with an Xbox One exclusive that requires a whole new account with minimal interaction in DUST, and say "hey, we said we promised combat in spaceships, we just didnt say it was going to be IN dust" because thats what they did to EVE, DUST, a game on a console the majority of the playerbase didnt even own, was their version of "walking on planets" they ahd been proposing for EVE for years. I guess what I'm saying is, dont expect anything amazing, because it will be a new game entirely that you cant play with your current character or hardware. hell, DUST wont be getting any REAL aircraft, thats for Valkyrie, only playable with an oculus rift
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 292	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:51:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim's ISK Pot wrote: They can't confirm that everything on the roadmap will come to be, and those that will won't be coming anytime soon. And you don't want to disappoint the playerbase. Trust me, it's much safer this way. the playerbase is already disappointed , well at least those from closed beta are Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 261	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:56:00 - [15] - Quote Namirial Kensai wrote: Texs Red wrote: Last I heard the new EP will be revealing the new roadmap during Fanfest. If your an EVE player, then you should know what "roadmap" means in CCP. It means "this is what we want the game to roughly look like someday maybe next decade we have no idea", and then they throw out some pretty ideas and videos that will never come to be. Or hell, theyll do to DUST what they did to EVE, they'll show a video of mercs storming out of a dropship onto the surface of a titan in space, breaking in hauling a nuclear warhead on the back of a mech, charging through blazing corridors to the core, and destroying the titan. they'll say "its in development, youll have it next year". when next year rolls around, nstead of implementing this new form of combat into the game your playing, instead theyll come out with an Xbox One exclusive that requires a whole new account with minimal interaction in DUST, and say "hey, we said we promised combat in spaceships, we just didnt say it was going to be IN dust" because thats what they did to EVE, DUST, a game on a console the majority of the playerbase didnt even own, was their version of "walking on planets" they ahd been proposing for EVE for years. I guess what I'm saying is, dont expect anything amazing, because it will be a new game entirely that you cant play with your current character or hardware. hell, DUST wont be getting any REAL aircraft, thats for Valkyrie, only playable with an oculus rift --------------------------------CCP--------------------------------- "Making promises they never deliver on since 2009" ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Drud Green Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 215	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:58:00 - [16] - Quote Who needs a roadmap when you can just make it up as you go along, You people have proven that no matter how much ccp **** this game up, you will still give them money. Got milk?
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 294	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:02:00 - [17] - Quote Drud Green wrote: Who needs a roadmap when you can just make it up as you go along, You people have proven that no matter how much ccp **** this game up, you will still give them money. Got milk? lol true people are still willing to invest in this game, I've never spent any money though because its always looked like a fragile project. Especially with how small , and deaf the shanghai team seems to be. Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 263	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:07:00 - [18] - Quote Drud Green wrote: Who needs a roadmap when you can just make it up as you go along, You people have proven that no matter how much ccp **** this game up, you will still give them money. Got milk? The sad thing is CCP sees the purchases these people make as 'Mission Accomplised'. Hence Hilmars recent comments on focussing only on the FPS part while completely ignoring the MMO side of Dust.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 295	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:11:00 - [19] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: Drud Green wrote: Who needs a roadmap when you can just make it up as you go along, You people have proven that no matter how much ccp **** this game up, you will still give them money. Got milk? The sad thing is CCP sees the purchases these people make as 'Mission Accomplised'. Hence Hilmars recent comments on focussing only on the FPS part while completely ignoring the MMO side of Dust. yup been like that for awhile , the 1.7 changes to faction warfare didn't get us any closer to feeling the affects of the FW battles in EVE and Dust. It merely changed it up a bit but gave us the same result in the end. Depending on what I see at Fan fest to choose if I should actually invest in this game. Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1140	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:20:00 - [20] - Quote Such cynicism here. The original Dust development team dropped the ball in a big way, that is pretty obvious. Turning that around was never going to be easy or quick. There was a roadmap but CCP tore it up, burned it, buried it then nuked the planet it was buried on (from orbit, its the only way to be sure). They've been working on a new one for a while, while stabilising (or possibly resuscitating) the code-base. I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll see not just the new roadmap but the first steps towards implementing it in the first half of this year. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 494	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:21:00 - [21] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: CCP is undergoing some heavy internal examination under the leadership of the new EP, they're not ready to discuss the future of Dust at this time, but they will in the not-too-distant future. I reckon this is why we don't have a solid roadmap. We want cake and tea.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 295	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:24:00 - [22] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: CCP is undergoing some heavy internal examination under the leadership of the new EP, they're not ready to discuss the future of Dust at this time, but they will in the not-too-distant future. I reckon this is why we don't have a solid roadmap. Makes sense Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood 372	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:32:00 - [23] - Quote Roadmaps are not ccp's thing, Or listening to the community, Or letting us know whats going on, Or letting us know whats gonna be in the next patch, Or letting us know about their vision. BUT they are pretty decent at Trolling, ***** up game balance, Trolling, Giving useless hints, Doing presentations about how awesome everything will be one day Aaaaaaaaand trolling another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!**
safura trotsky Kill Mode Activated 9	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:39:00 - [24] - Quote There are no details like this because CCP has no idea what they're going to do each month. Every month they scramble to create new content and their content reflects that hastiness. But, to be fair it's only probably because of their week long vacations. Thanks for picking me up blueberry!...and again...and again...STAHP!!!
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 237	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:48:00 - [25] - Quote da GAND wrote: Atiim's ISK Pot wrote: They can't confirm that everything on the roadmap will come to be, and those that will won't be coming anytime soon. And you don't want to disappoint the playerbase. Trust me, it's much safer this way. the playerbase is already disappointed , well at least those from closed beta are <---Not closed beta. Pretty disappointed. "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
Kaughst Nyain San Renegade Alliance 194	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:49:00 - [26] - Quote There is indeed a roadmap TO Uprising as I read it and it is posted on the forums...I think it is by CCP Eterne or how ever you spell his name...It is kind of vague and not really exciting but from what I read it is mostly about balance and finishing the racial variety. "That is not how you say my name." "How do you say your name?" "I don't know but that is not how you say it."
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1569	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:53:00 - [27] - Quote To be fair to CCP, if peeps go back and watch 'Refining the Core' from last year's fanfest and compare what was said to what's been delivered, you can see a lot of alignment between the talk and the walk. Other important issues aside, they did a pretty good job of following that roadmap, even while the earth was shifting under their feet. That's pretty respectable given what the DUST dev team has been through in 2013, imo. I support SP rollover.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 980	Posted - 2014.02.14 00:07:00 - [28] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: They themselves have no idea what they're doing. Pretty much this.
Marc Rime 243	Posted - 2014.02.14 00:58:00 - [29] - Quote Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote: Really CCP, why not? Because they fail to deliver anything on time. Constantly.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2969	Posted - 2014.02.14 01:26:00 - [30] - Quote I would assume it's because 95% of the things they've ever put on a roadmap hasn't come to pass. At some point they probably got frustrated and embarassed with how little of their vision they manage to implement. What's the point of a "roadmap" when none of it ever sees the light of day anyway?

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