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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:47:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:True Adamance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Amarr - Fire Nation - They like conquering things and are the most advanced
Caldari - Earth Kingdom - Hard workers with a lot of business
Gallente - Air Nomads - Peace, love, and democracy, baby.
Minmatar - Water Tribes - A rag tag bunch of people with improvised weapons
Yeah I'm bored at work atm - don't judge :P From my perspective it's: Caldari = Ultra Conservative, strong sense of national identity while trying to give as much money as possible to the elite. Ayn Rand + Rupert Murdoch in space. Gallente = Liberal, please let us show you how backwards your system is or we will shoot you! Amarr = US Confederacy classical Southerns/British Colonialism, you lesser races were put on this Earth by God to serve us! Minmatar = 3rd world identities. Matari 1: "We want to keep our own culture and governance, we don't want all of you other races high idealism!" Matari 2: "I like Gallente, they say they want peace for the world Matari 3: "I like the Caldari they promise me great riches! Matari 4: "I haven't seen the sun or my family since the Amarr took me, they treat us like animals..." Just like the 3rd world countries the Minmatar can't agree on much, other then that they logically hate the Amarr. Hence they are tribal. Again nice...but people assume to far that the Amarr wish all races to serve them exclusives, and to a further extent the True Amarr bloodline. This is not the case, as the more the empire expands and draws in newly converted the lesser proportion of control and or positions to power True Amarr families hold. Many Brutor tribesmen serve in the Imperial Navies and are highly respected for it, composing now the 5th largest Free population within the Empire, and when I say free I mean emancipated. I'm not saying Colonialism is right or wrong, I'm just saying it is what it is. Every Empire in history justifies it's conquests by claiming they improved the lives of the people, while the defeated claim they didn't want these changes. There is no moral high ground, religion is a justification, not a reality. Especially not in this fake universe obviously lol.
YUS You just hit the nail on the head.
The Amarr are what they are. A product of their racial history. I don't deny they have colonial/ imperial dreams.....but they don't want everyone to serve the True Amarr. All men are equal in the eyes of god and destined to rule beneath the stars.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:50:00 -
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Archerus Deis wrote:Everyone follows perspectives base on the personal accounts/factors they perceive through biases regardless. You could never argue however with EVE's general history as it actually serves on what our society in our world may shift.
Anyhow here are my views for each of the four factions rather than race.
The Amarr empire:
Monotheistic religious society in which still strives to seeking the existence of this supreme being, in which they do not know who it may be. Due to the Eve's Gate collapse and being shut off from Earth, in order to perhaps cope with sanity, lets recreate a structural control with society once more as it was back in Mesopotamia, Egyptian, Islamic, Christian and so forth, as well bringing forth retribution to those non believers, lets bring slavery to enlighten them.
Following equally with dominance and conquest like the Roman Empire, owning 40% of the galaxy. It cannot be argued that it was the first to flourish amongst the unknown darkest environment in space, as well as advanced with technology and so forth.
An Ammarrian citizen can be perhaps seen as an ordinary roman or greek citizen.
Rise of Religion control as it was thousand years ago? Monarchism?
The Minmatar Republic:
Tribal, very independent from one another, and likely carry out odd norms in which are hard to be understood and seen as odd or barbaric amongst the eyes of civilized foreigners ( like the Spanish conquistadors with the Aztec's rituals ).
Tribe may be Germanic Viking saxon, African ties, Native, or Celtic.
Tragically enslaved, yet also quick to anger and always thirsting for revenge. Some may see them as seeking justice, others pure acts of terrorism like today's society for retribution.
Anarchy?
The Gallente Federation:
Yes....a diversity of many, unity and strength. Do not be deceived, it is all political movement and power rising purpose at the hands of powerful people. It can be agreeable to compare it as today's USA system with ever struggling, Media control, strong propaganda and so forth.
However, it is welcoming to everyone. This could also be related to today's France's system.
Possibility rise of facism? Police state? or government collapse?
The Caldari State:
Perhaps think of it as to what today's Corporations NAFTA are affecting the world widely and their ever powerful control through finance and system control without government
Also Communism as it was in Russia, the personal is also political, you don't matter as you are amongst the rest and can be counted as the same.
Strong Japanese cultural relations, as well as pride capitalism if communism isn't saw that way. Military government?
These are my views, I can never be right,
I think you have elaborated the best so far, glad you had contributed. |
Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:59:00 -
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I always say things like this:
Amarr appear to be a mixture of Rome and the Christians(during the Crusades),they believe they are the chosen and must spread the word of their god to everyone around them often forcing it on people "either believe what i believe or die" sort of mentality yet they believe they are doing the right thing.
In general they are not bad people its just what they believe and alot of them are very honorable in how treat their slaves as they become extended family as far as i can tell how ever just like with all races and even in reality every race has its scumbags and the amarr are no different there are plenty who mistreat and abuse slaves.
Minmatar: Barbarians (this is not actually a bad thing and literally means outsider in the Roman times) its a melting pot of tribes for good and bad tribes like Germanic barbarians, Norse, Celts, Greeks, African clans to a minor extent and eastern clans like the huns ect.
They tend to fight among themselfs alot more than other races while it is true that their is a large criminal element and that gangs are common this is also not the case with alot of clans and some are respected warriors and great crafts men and traders similar to the way of the old Norse and Celtic clans were their is far too much diversity in the minmatar to boil it down to certain elements. I would suspect that honor is a big thing in among the more non corrupt/Scumbagish clans as in the old days family and clan ties and a mans worth was held with much higher regard to alot of clans for example in the days of the Vikings if someone insulted someone else 3 times the law of the land demanded blood they also had a greater sence of pride and honor than most these days to dishonor your self or family was a terrible thing to do back then. Alot of this is my own interpretation and not actual lore but based on the tribes that apear to be based on
Gallentee Basically the Allies and the Modern Western world corrupt as hell but hidden behind a veil of "Freedom"
Very Capitalistic and Consumerist the rich get richer and the poor get poorer in this space, they are however very open to outsiders they are the most diverse nation due to immigration with all the good and bad things this implies
Caldari **** state combined with Japan thats not as bad as it sounds people, very concerned with their peoples place in the world. They have a very great sence of the State above all however its mostly run by corporation execs who live in luxury however not so much no after heth got to power.
Great pride in their own nationality with a fear of loosing their own identity to damn right fear of foreigners at times, their work ethic is very good as it seems to be run on a sense of pride we do this for the state so on so forth, they also have a seem to favor practicality over all else as long as its efficient and well made nothing else matters to designers this reminds me of Germany for some reason.
So in summery There is no race completely good and no race completely bad Amarr: their religion is completely over the top but most of their hearts is in the right place they think they are doing the right thing. Minmatar: While having alot of good people their are equal amounts of scum and criminals to balence them out i honestly think that they have the potential to bring out the best humanity has to offer while also producing the worst. Gallentee: Very open to outsiders and seem to honestly believe in freedom at the street level but a bit too forcefull of their ways on others Caldari: Very good system of everything is for the state therefore for the people but has layers corruption which screwes over the plan. |
Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
295
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:03:00 -
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Archerus Deis wrote:Everyone follows perspectives base on the personal accounts/factors they perceive through biases regardless. You could never argue however with EVE's general history as it actually serves on what our society in our world may shift.
Anyhow here are my views for each of the four factions rather than race.
The Amarr empire:
Monotheistic religious society in which still strives to seeking the existence of this supreme being, in which they do not know who it may be. Due to the Eve's Gate collapse and being shut off from Earth, in order to perhaps cope with sanity, lets recreate a structural control with society once more as it was back in Mesopotamia, Egyptian, Islamic, Christian and so forth, as well bringing forth retribution to those non believers, lets bring slavery to enlighten them.
Following equally with dominance and conquest like the Roman Empire, owning 40% of the galaxy. It cannot be argued that it was the first to flourish amongst the unknown darkest environment in space, as well as advanced with technology and so forth.
An Ammarrian citizen can be perhaps seen as an ordinary roman or greek citizen.
Rise of Religion control as it was thousand years ago? Monarchism?
The Minmatar Republic:
Tribal, very independent from one another, and likely carry out odd norms in which are hard to be understood and seen as odd or barbaric amongst the eyes of civilized foreigners ( like the Spanish conquistadors with the Aztec's rituals ).
Tribe may be Germanic Viking saxon, African ties, Native, or Celtic.
Tragically enslaved, yet also quick to anger and always thirsting for revenge. Some may see them as seeking justice, others pure acts of terrorism like today's society for retribution.
Anarchy?
The Gallente Federation:
Yes....a diversity of many, unity and strength. Do not be deceived, it is all political movement and power rising purpose at the hands of powerful people. It can be agreeable to compare it as today's USA system with ever struggling, Media control, strong propaganda and so forth.
However, it is welcoming to everyone. This could also be related to today's France's system.
Possibility rise of facism? Police state? or government collapse?
The Caldari State:
Perhaps think of it as to what today's Corporations NAFTA are affecting the world widely and their ever powerful control through finance and system control without government
Also Communism as it was in Russia, the personal is also political, you don't matter as you are amongst the rest and can be counted as the same.
Strong Japanese cultural relations, as well as pride capitalism if communism isn't saw that way. Military government?
These are my views, I can never be right,
Didnt see this before posting but this seems very well thought out and i think you may have the best explaination here. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7023
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:05:00 -
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Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: So in summery There is no race completely good and no race completely bad Amarr: their religion is completely over the top but most of their hearts is in the right place they think they are doing the right thing. Minmatar: While having alot of good people their are equal amounts of scum and criminals to balence them out i honestly think that they have the potential to bring out the best humanity has to offer while also producing the worst. Gallentee: Very open to outsiders and seem to honestly believe in freedom at the street level but a bit too forcefull of their ways on others Caldari: Very good system of everything is for the state therefore for the people but has layers corruption which screwes over the plan.
Interesting. People often say the same of the Amarr, as you of the Minmatar. nice summaries
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Archerus Deis
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:21:00 -
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Thanks to those who brought interest to my views, as also you have my thanks on my behalf for stating your's.
Truth to be told......I believe we're all in the same the page considering our views coming to a conclusion of the four factions.
We're all on a good track here. |
Tupni
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:23:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:More like:
Gallente-the stench of unbathed, chronic masturbating obiesity
Amarr-shining examples of hope, justice and freedom.
Caldari-.the vengence to come.
Minnmater-dirty, religious zealot human trafficing trash.
Fixed~!
"I'm a Gal-anty! Freedumb means people only do what I want or I war them! Aren't I noble?? :-D"
On topic though,
Amarr - Goa'uld Gallante - The United States Air Force Minitaur - Jaffa Caldari - That Shadow Organization based on Earth/Maybe that one race in Atlantis That Wanted the Bomb Jove - Asgard Rogue Drones - Replicators EVE Stargate - Stargate Stargates
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Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
233
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:27:00 -
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Amarr- Space Catholics Minmatar- Space Africans Gallente- Space Liberals Caldari- Space Asians
Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012
TEST Alliance Best Alliance
Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
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Ayures II
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
470
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Why ******* Quafe? Some level of trust there between the Amarr and this corporation?
Quafe is incredibly well-known and popular across all of New Eden. Since Quafe is everywhere, has vested interests in all nations, and is universally loved, Quafe representatives make good impartial mediators. |
Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
295
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: So in summery There is no race completely good and no race completely bad Amarr: their religion is completely over the top but most of their hearts is in the right place they think they are doing the right thing. Minmatar: While having alot of good people their are equal amounts of scum and criminals to balence them out i honestly think that they have the potential to bring out the best humanity has to offer while also producing the worst. Gallentee: Very open to outsiders and seem to honestly believe in freedom at the street level but a bit too forcefull of their ways on others Caldari: Very good system of everything is for the state therefore for the people but has layers corruption which screwes over the plan.
Interesting. People often say the same of the Amarr, as you of the Minmatar. nice summaries
Haha well iam probably a bit biased as I have a interest in the Norse and Celtic history and mythology surrounding these peoples due to ancestry and i find i relate to the minmatar because of it.
I find it very interesting and funny at times how many people associate any race as inherently Evil or Good, its the same as reality their are people thats are less moral than others due to greed or the likes but no race or people has ever been completely Evil its just usually they think misguided or not that they are doing the right thing for either their people, humanity or whatever gods they keep. |
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
967
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Posted - 2014.02.13 03:12:00 -
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Gallente: Master Race
Caldari: Hexagon Face
Amarr: Religious Place
Minmatar: Untied Lace |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.02.17 16:15:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: We believe in a God named Tetrimon
Looked it up, and turns out Tetrimon was a saint, not your God. Couldn't find any name for your God besides just "God".
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.18 03:05:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote: We believe in a God named Tetrimon
Looked it up, and turns out Tetrimon was a saint, not your God. Couldn't find any name for your God besides just "God".
Not afraid to admit I was wrong
EDIT: Tet Rimon refers to a turn of phrase used to refer to god, if not directly referring to an actual name.
A manu dei e tet rimon - I am the devoted hand of the divine god. ("Tetrimon" means "Divine Devotion")
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.18 03:08:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote: We believe in a God named Tetrimon
Looked it up, and turns out Tetrimon was a saint, not your God. Couldn't find any name for your God besides just "God". Read my new post, will cover some misconceptions, yours and my own
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
610
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Posted - 2014.02.18 04:15:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:I like my abbreviated version:
Caldari = Communists Gallente = Hippies Amarr = Fanatics Minmatar = Hobos
Caldari = A mix of Imperial Japan and USA Gallente = Western Europe Amarr = **** Germany and Roman Catholic Church Minmatar = Africa
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.18 04:26:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:I like my abbreviated version:
Caldari = Communists Gallente = Hippies Amarr = Fanatics Minmatar = Hobos
Communists? That would be Capitalists. Which to me is not a bad thing.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1243
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Posted - 2014.02.18 04:28:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I like my abbreviated version:
Caldari = Communists Gallente = Hippies Amarr = Fanatics Minmatar = Hobos Caldari = A mix of Imperial Japan and USA Gallente = Western Europe Amarr = **** Germany and Roman Catholic Church ( they bleeped out naz! wtf) Minmatar = Africa
That would be modern Japan and USA. Business and mega conglomerates.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1243
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Posted - 2014.02.18 04:35:00 -
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Gallente: Blinky
Caldari: Pinky
Amarr: Inky
Minmatar: Clyde
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Jackof All-Trades
The Black Renaissance
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Posted - 2014.02.18 05:30:00 -
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This thread has gone from an endearing analogy between the races of New Eden and my favourite cartoon show to an incredibly detailed discussion over the socioeconomic stances and philosophies of the four races.
I freaking love it (also, I'm really digging Amarr)
"Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
5794
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Posted - 2014.02.18 05:47:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:This thread has gone from an endearing analogy between the races of New Eden and my favourite cartoon show to an incredibly detailed discussion over the socioeconomic stances and philosophies of the four races.
I freaking love it (also, I'm really digging Amarr) Welcome to New Eden.
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