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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.02.12 13:25:00 -
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What's wrong with chasing the FotM anyway? It's not something I do myself, but I don't really see the problem with it - maybe I have a different perspective on things. I'm a bit of an optimiser, and given the opportunity and some parameters I will min-max the living shit out of a build.
Maximum performance out of minimum expenditure.
The other method I like to choose is maximum role-play, so thematic feats, skills, class levels etc. I never had the SP or inclination to do that for DUST until now (Amarr Victor! Give me a race respec, CCP!). The two don't exist in a vacuum, of course, but full optimisation = sacrificing RP.
Again, not sure why this is a bad thing. Essentially it seems to me that it shows little more than who is willing to adapt, truly adapt, to win. After all, SP ain't something you're getting back. (Usually.)
If someone could enlighten me as to why FotM chasing is such a Bad Thing, I'd be greatly appreciative.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:50:00 -
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I appreciate the reasonable responses to what is somewhat of a hot-button topic; I'm just commenting here to post my thoughts, and to sum up what I've read.
So what I'm seeing is that generally speaking people think thre FotM is a problem as a symptom of imbalance, thereby leading to 'unfair play'? Essentially the problem is therefore the egregious imbalances in the game caused by pretty obviously broken mechanics.
I'm asking because I see 'FotM chasers will benefit' as an argument nearly every time someone asks for a respec, and I honestly didn't see the merits of that argument. I still don't, tbh. Minmaxers exist in every community, and it's unreasonable to expect that they don't. Furthermore, a person skilled into the FotM has as much right to a respec as everyone else, in the end; they 'decided' where their SP was going to go.
And... I doubt most of the people complaining about the coming RR nerf consider themselves FotM-chasers.
True Adamance wrote:In DKS we had a word you for Lorhak.
Twinks...... Claymore, Giants, flipping, Hornet, Ring, back stabbing cunts...... not that you are mate.
There is no problem with FoTM, because once that fits weakness is revealed, everyone exploits the hell out of it, and rips those FoTMers apart.
And no. You don't have to sacrifice efficiency to RP, merely understand where you fit into the battlefield dynamic.
I remember those builds :P WoG spam is entertaining :)
You don't need to sacrifice RP for full optimisation, that's true. But let's face it; a coherent backstory is far more challenging to develop and to maintain with a full-optimised character than a thematically built one. (I am speaking from a D&D background here)
Also - I'd like to note that while I may be a particle-cannon wielding GalLogi with a scrambler rifle, I've been that since the beginning of Uprising ;)
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:54:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:the main problem with fotm is once it gets balanced ppl ***** and act like they're victims while demanding there sp back. like with the flaylock pistol it's still a good gun you just can't shoot at ppls feet anymore and expect a kill from it. so when the splash damage got nerfed you actually had to hit your target and not around it ppl threw it away like last weeks garbage It was thrown away because, like always, CCP over reacted. It is now last weeks garbage. it works just fine ppl just don't want to use skill a hit their target instead of the broken hitting the ground five feet away instakill sidearm that it started as.
Okay, I missed this one. Sorry for double post, guys!
So basically the purpose of the flaylock pistol is to be a scrambler pistol only worse (by far)?
I can kill any medium frame suit within magazine. If I get a couple of headshots I can do for a heavy.
Flaylock now requires more skill than ScP with similar but inferior mechanics (i.e. Not hitscan) for worse results.
That says 'gimped gun' to me.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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