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Virtual Riot
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:23:00 -
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http://imgur.com/a/nE68W
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
833
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:24:00 -
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Both teams are full so it looks like the patch worked. What's the problem?
Good Advice
Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
305
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:28:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Both teams are full so it looks like the patch worked. What's the problem?
Look closer
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Staff recruiter mlt frame,
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
209
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:30:00 -
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WHY IS CCP HAVING SUCH A DIF TIME WITH MATCHMAKING!!?
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
835
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:33:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Both teams are full so it looks like the patch worked. What's the problem? Look closer
Still not seeing it since both teams are full. Perhaps you should look at the hotfix notes more carefully.
Good Advice
Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
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Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
187
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:35:00 -
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I think he means 5 nyain on one side and 1 nyain on the other maybe? Could it have split a squad? |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
305
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:35:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:NK Scout wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Both teams are full so it looks like the patch worked. What's the problem? Look closer Still not seeing it since both teams are full. Perhaps you should look at the hotfix notes more carefully.
Look at the scoreboard and look at the ground
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter mlt frame,
Templar set
Caldari Master Race
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Piercing Serenity
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
538
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:36:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:NK Scout wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Both teams are full so it looks like the patch worked. What's the problem? Look closer Still not seeing it since both teams are full. Perhaps you should look at the hotfix notes more carefully.
Atlina's saying the the word for word description of what the hotfix would do was not to put squads against each other. It was to make sure that players didn't go into battles that were half full, and that would stay that way for the whole battle.
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J0LLY R0G3R
0uter.Heaven
465
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:37:00 -
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patch was to even out the the numbers on the teams. not what you think apparently
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1833
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:37:00 -
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The hot fix was about battles being lopsided in number. I have had a few matches with me/8-9 players, this is what it is supposed to address, not stacked teams.
(as a note the 1/9 games were some of the most fun I have had  )
CCP Frame wrote:Dear players,
Today DUST 514 is scheduled to go offline for an extended period of time starting from 11:00 UTC. Server is expected to come back up at approximately 11:35 UTC. Today we are deploying the following changes:
* Bug fix: Character selection screen would sometimes display "no label: Corporation/MemberFor".
* Bug fix: Matchmaking - battles would sometimes remain imbalanced throughout the end due to teams not being filled in correctly.
Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Linky
KRRROOOOOOM
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Jake Bloodworth
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
409
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:46:00 -
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Matchmaking is already built into Dust. Oddly enough, most players haven't discovered how to turn it on. I have prepared a short tutorial to help with this.
Once you are in the mercenary quarters, do the following to activate matchmaking.
1. Press Select
2. Navigate to the chat channel titled "Squad"
3. If empty, press X and select "create squad"
4. Invite friends, corp mates, etc to new squad (the strength of matchmaking depends on how well you perform this step)
5. Enjoy player driven matchmaking
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
305
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:47:00 -
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Jake Bloodworth wrote:Matchmaking is already built into Dust. Oddly enough, most players haven't discovered how to turn it on. I have prepared a short tutorial to help with this.
Once you are in the mercenary quarters, do the following to activate matchmaking.
1. Press Select
2. Navigate to the chat channel titled "Squad"
3. If empty, press X and select "create squad"
4. Invite friends, corp mates, etc to new squad (the strength of matchmaking depends on how well you perform this step)
5. Enjoy player driven matchmaking
I wish I can -1 you
2 exiles assault rifles,
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
194
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:48:00 -
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Nope, nope, NOPE! CCP should be able to come up with a match making system that can predict if players will tank spam in the battle and then not put them in battle. Also, squads shouldn't be able to enjoy the tactical advantage that squadding up offers and should go into pub matches solo. Nice fail CCP. 
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Virtual Riot
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
179
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:00:00 -
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Well maybe the bug didn't address that specifically but the point is that
Until there is a system put in place to prevent squad stomping in public matches, this game will continue to consist solely of small groups of elitist players.
Its such a simple concept its stupid. But for some reason those same small groups of players seem to want to keep the game all to themselves.
So whenever there is a thread talking about stomps in public matches, they act all sarcastic, and say "HTFU" like a bunch of little babies.
Like
Do you not want this game to grow?
For shame |
Jake Bloodworth
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
411
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:05:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Jake Bloodworth wrote:Matchmaking is already built into Dust. Oddly enough, most players haven't discovered how to turn it on. I have prepared a short tutorial to help with this.
Once you are in the mercenary quarters, do the following to activate matchmaking.
1. Press Select
2. Navigate to the chat channel titled "Squad"
3. If empty, press X and select "create squad"
4. Invite friends, corp mates, etc to new squad (the strength of matchmaking depends on how well you perform this step)
5. Enjoy player driven matchmaking
I wish I can -1 you
Sadly you can't. CCP neglected to provide a -1 button to click on their forums. There is nothing you as a player can do in this situation. On the other hand, your matchmaking woes can be alleviated through player driven methods like squads, corporations, friends, personal skill. CCP should use their resources providing options and tools for the player... not matchmaking. |
Sgt Buttscratch
lcritMYpantS
1504
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:05:00 -
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they have done a great job here, now they are stacking NPC corps versus PRO scrub corps....wait.. wasn't that already happening
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
1428
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:07:00 -
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you know the game absolutely sucks when some people DO NOT DIE.
DUST gives you a mathematical advantage that, when grouped up with your corp mates,
you will NEVER die.
How do you really think 80-0 ambush games works? Because the enemy team sucks that much?
NO, because they can't ******* kill the other team!!!!
guns which do more damage
guns which are more stable
more health
faster reload speed
faster sprint speed
scanners
this game will NEVER BE BALANCED NO MATTER HOW MANY MATCHMAKING FIXES YOU THROW AT IT BECAUSE
THE CORE OF THE GAME IS BROKEN IN A MANNER WHICH MEANS CRAP PLAYERS CAN BECOME GOD JUST BY INVESTING TIME AND MONEY INTO THE GAME
that's not the mark of a good game, that's the mark of a game which will fail so miserably.
I really am sick of seeing these kinds of games.
Let me go against these guys with the same amount of HP and bullet damage.
You want an even game CCP? You should have had skill based or gear tiered matchmaking from the start
when you had enough players for it to actually work. All you have now is vets in proto suits slaughtering starter fits
who will NEVER get out of those starter fits because you dont give them a CHANCE.
DUST VIDEOS
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll
TRA1LBLAZERS
243
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:09:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:they have done a great job here, now they are stacking NPC corps versus PRO scrub corps....wait.. wasn't that already happening
i hope you mean PRO as in protostomping, not professional, because they certainly arent professional |
buzzzzzzz killllllllll
TRA1LBLAZERS
243
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:11:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:you know the game absolutely sucks when some people DO NOT DIE. DUST gives you a mathematical advantage that, when grouped up with your corp mates, you will NEVER die. How do you really think 80-0 ambush games works? Because the enemy team sucks that much? NO, because they can't ******* kill the other team!!!! guns which do more damage guns which are more stable more health faster reload speed faster sprint speed scanners this game will NEVER BE BALANCED NO MATTER HOW MANY MATCHMAKING FIXES YOU THROW AT IT BECAUSE THE CORE OF THE GAME IS BROKEN IN A MANNER WHICH MEANS CRAP PLAYERS CAN BECOME GOD JUST BY INVESTING TIME AND MONEY INTO THE GAME that's not the mark of a good game, that's the mark of a game which will fail so miserably. I really am sick of seeing these kinds of games. Let me go against these guys with the same amount of HP and bullet damage. You want an even game CCP? You should have had skill based or gear tiered matchmaking from the start when you had enough players for it to actually work. All you have now is vets in proto suits slaughtering starter fits who will NEVER get out of those starter fits because you dont give them a CHANCE.
i slaughter nyain s(hit)an protos with my mlts and i only have 6 mil sp, mostly passive, so skill does matter
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Storm Shelton
0uter.Heaven
83
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:12:00 -
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Or this could be a complaint about all those Nyain San tanks. lulz Just saying guys.
Other than that possibility, The matchmaking looks great! n_n
You don't know my life! You don't know how many nanites to put in my cereal!
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1031
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:14:00 -
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so what your saying is that nyain san doesnt deserver to have anything but a 1 hour wait timer to play games to insure they people they are playing against are people who would purposly WANT to play against them and in no way shoudl anyone ever be put against nyain san who doesnt specifically want to be? |
Virtual Riot
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
180
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:16:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:so what your saying is that nyain san doesnt deserver to have anything but a 1 hour wait timer to play games to insure they people they are playing against are people who would purposly WANT to play against them and in no way shoudl anyone ever be put against nyain san who doesnt specifically want to be?
I'm saying that if they want to roll proto squads they should have to do it against other squads.
If they want a fast match time, they should run solo, play FW, or set up PC matches.
Otherwise they should have to wait |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1031
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:18:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:so what your saying is that nyain san doesnt deserver to have anything but a 1 hour wait timer to play games to insure they people they are playing against are people who would purposly WANT to play against them and in no way shoudl anyone ever be put against nyain san who doesnt specifically want to be? I'm saying that if they want to roll proto squads they should have to do it against other squads. If they want a fast match time, they should run solo, play FW, or set up PC matches. Otherwise they should have to wait
so what your saying is that you want nyain san to have 1 hour plus que times so that you dotn have to fight them becuase you just dun wanna |
Virtual Riot
The Vanguardians
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
180
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:24:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Virtual Riot wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:so what your saying is that nyain san doesnt deserver to have anything but a 1 hour wait timer to play games to insure they people they are playing against are people who would purposly WANT to play against them and in no way shoudl anyone ever be put against nyain san who doesnt specifically want to be? I'm saying that if they want to roll proto squads they should have to do it against other squads. If they want a fast match time, they should run solo, play FW, or set up PC matches. Otherwise they should have to wait so what your saying is that you want nyain san to have 1 hour plus que times so that you dotn have to fight them becuase you just dun wanna also the playstyle i gave you is quite a bit different then my PC role in a few importnat ways... i cant exactly freely give up those kinds of secrets:P but its close enough to make a difference in pubs and as part of a smaller less notable PC team
No stupid, not because I "dun wanna" >.>"
Because its destroying the game, if you can't see that you're blind |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1031
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:27:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Virtual Riot wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:so what your saying is that nyain san doesnt deserver to have anything but a 1 hour wait timer to play games to insure they people they are playing against are people who would purposly WANT to play against them and in no way shoudl anyone ever be put against nyain san who doesnt specifically want to be? I'm saying that if they want to roll proto squads they should have to do it against other squads. If they want a fast match time, they should run solo, play FW, or set up PC matches. Otherwise they should have to wait so what your saying is that you want nyain san to have 1 hour plus que times so that you dotn have to fight them becuase you just dun wanna No stupid, not because I "dun wanna" >.>" Because its destroying the game, if you can't see that you're blind
focing players you dont want to fight to have 1 hour long que times is the perfect definition of destroying the game and throwing a hissy fit. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1031
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:07:00 -
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also on the other hand your also insisting that squads should not exsist... so yah... your bad and you should feel bad |
Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
136
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:16:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Virtual Riot wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:so what your saying is that nyain san doesnt deserver to have anything but a 1 hour wait timer to play games to insure they people they are playing against are people who would purposly WANT to play against them and in no way shoudl anyone ever be put against nyain san who doesnt specifically want to be? I'm saying that if they want to roll proto squads they should have to do it against other squads. If they want a fast match time, they should run solo, play FW, or set up PC matches. Otherwise they should have to wait so what your saying is that you want nyain san to have 1 hour plus que times so that you dotn have to fight them becuase you just dun wanna No stupid, not because I "dun wanna" >.>" Because its destroying the game, if you can't see that you're blind
Crying a river you must not. Gun game getting good you need be or else biomass and play COD  that way you go.
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Neo Rinzler
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:23:00 -
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Storm Shelton wrote:Or this could be a complaint about all those Nyain San tanks. lulz Just saying guys.
Other than that possibility, The matchmaking looks great! n_n
Filling both teams up isn't great matchmaking .. it's the bog standard minimal that you'd expect
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4592
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:25:00 -
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CCP is too busy making Colorful Caldari Assault suits to look into Matchmaking seriously. |
Neo Rinzler
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:28:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Virtual Riot wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:so what your saying is that nyain san doesnt deserver to have anything but a 1 hour wait timer to play games to insure they people they are playing against are people who would purposly WANT to play against them and in no way shoudl anyone ever be put against nyain san who doesnt specifically want to be? I'm saying that if they want to roll proto squads they should have to do it against other squads. If they want a fast match time, they should run solo, play FW, or set up PC matches. Otherwise they should have to wait so what your saying is that you want nyain san to have 1 hour plus que times so that you dotn have to fight them becuase you just dun wanna
I want them to have 1 hour queue times .. just because it'd be funny and tbh if they don't want 1 hour queue times they could stop locking their PC districts and actually fight over them |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2510
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:28:00 -
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What do you expect its ambush?
Ambush always attracts the protostomps and the fact that they most likely have SSD/SSHD so they spawn in before anyone else and can call in there tanks
Intelligence is OP
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
1341
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:46:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:NK Scout wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Both teams are full so it looks like the patch worked. What's the problem? Look closer Still not seeing it since both teams are full. Perhaps you should look at the hotfix notes more carefully. Atlina's saying the the word for word description of what the hotfix would do was not to put squads against each other. It was to make sure that players didn't go into battles that were half full, and that would stay that way for the whole battle.
This. OP has no clue apparently on what the hotfix consisted of. It was not balance from a skill/SP standpoint. It was balance of players per side, regardless of skill or affiliation.
Sheesh.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Jake Bloodworth
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
422
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:34:00 -
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This thread shows both extremes of this argument. On the one hand, you have the entitled crowd crying for CCP to "fix" the game. The other group is the "get gud or go back to COD" group. Content is the only thing that will make this game better. Matchmaking is not content. CCP should not be wasting their time on a matchmaking that takes player skill, skill points, skill point allocation, and fitting intelligence into consideration. It cannot be done. Those of you asking for it are unable to see past your own perception that you, or your "friend", cannot compete.
"Get gud" is also not a worthy response. Some players will simply never develop proper FPS skills. That is ok. The game needs to allow for players who don't have the twitch skills or decision making ability to "get gud". Content will make both sides happy. Balancing of certain weapons will help, but the game needs PvE, a deeper PC experience, the continued improvement of faction warfare, and a host of other improvements to the game.
Until then, as a player, you should be social in this MULTIPLAYER game. Surround yourself with friends. Get to know good players and run with them whenever possible. You experience will improve. Or, you can continue to be anti-social. You can continue joining whatever corp you see posting in local. In the end, your quality of experience with Dust is on you. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
1805
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:39:00 -
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it's almost like it's truly impossible to tell which squads will bring 6 tanks and which won't....oh wait it is truly impossible to tell that -.-.
anyone who thought this would fix tank spam as per the OP, or even proto stomps was fooling themselves. at best this patch stopped the 2 versus 16 match ups.
seriously you can't do match making with a patch it will require fundamental changes to the game modes. |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
1941
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:40:00 -
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2 full squads "Matchmaking" as intended.
There is no skill/stat based system, teams aren't chosen based on their skills.
Instead their is system which pairs people on connection.
#LrN2ReeD
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Dandeth Adloth
ReDust Inc.
17
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:55:00 -
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If you really think that EVE is about fair fights, you are gravely mistaken!
This is a gameworld, that is about everything but fairness. EVE is about deceiving and taking advantage of your enemy.
You will allways try to have an advantage over your opponent. This is not some E-sports mano a mano thingy.
Problem with that is, unbalanced matches are seldom fun.
So if we don't get something else to waste our time with, only the hardcore addicts will stay until the game has something more interesting than unbalanced games to offer.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
416
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:14:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:CCP is too busy making Colorful Caldari Assault suits to look into Matchmaking seriously.
Really, that's the best you can come up with? Concidering the skin for the Quafe Caldari Assault were finished over a year ago you statement is a load of bull. But, I'm not surprised as that's all you seem to come out with these days |
Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
416
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:25:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Virtual Riot wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:so what your saying is that nyain san doesnt deserver to have anything but a 1 hour wait timer to play games to insure they people they are playing against are people who would purposly WANT to play against them and in no way shoudl anyone ever be put against nyain san who doesnt specifically want to be? I'm saying that if they want to roll proto squads they should have to do it against other squads. If they want a fast match time, they should run solo, play FW, or set up PC matches. Otherwise they should have to wait so what your saying is that you want nyain san to have 1 hour plus que times so that you dotn have to fight them becuase you just dun wanna
Not only is Virtual unable so far to admit his OP here is totally wrong, now he wants to whing, and bang his heels because his skills are that low that he can't compete with Nyain. Yep, nothing of any worth to see here.
Here's a heads up. I don't play Ambush, I mainly play Skirm with a bit of Dom, mixed solo deployment and squad deployment, no proto suit or gun used, and I have a ball 90% of the time. HOW, you ask. Because rather than crying on the forums over a lack of skill on my part, I actually attempt to get better ingame. It might be a bit of a tough one for ya to grasp Virtual, but give it a try. Actually, I lied about the proto gun and suit thing. Once a month I might actually run it once
As a last resort you could actually try to play a different game if you can't get into an enjoyable level of an experience in Dust. But at the very least, for your own benefit as much as ours, stop acting like a baby. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1231
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:01:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Nope, nope, NOPE! CCP should be able to come up with a match making system that can predict if players will tank spam in the battle and then not put them in battle. Also, squads shouldn't be able to enjoy the tactical advantage that squadding up offers and should go into pub matches solo. Nice fail CCP.
everyone should be as inept as this guy! |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2291
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:02:00 -
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The tldr of the tread.
Punsh players for being better than me; everyone else stop being an idiot
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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