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HYENAKILLER X
Knightz of the Round
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.11 18:57:00 -
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If we get a full respec do I not repec back into assault rifles and instead spec into scrambler rifles?
Tanks are for pussies.
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Delta90212
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
251
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Posted - 2014.02.11 18:58:00 -
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scrambler rifle is a assault rifle
Fear The Tribes / Standings Minmatar 5 / Gallente 5 / Pilot
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
1175
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:03:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:If we get a full respec do I not repec back into assault rifles and instead spec into scrambler rifles?
If CCP goes through with their current plans to tweak the proficiency skill, anyone how doesn't have a ScR or AR And a mag sec or SMG will be very sorry.
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Maken Tosch
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
6788
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:06:00 -
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A better advice would be to spec into a suit and weapon you like or are comfortable with rather than speccing into the next FoTM.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
164
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:06:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:If we get a full respec do I not repec back into assault rifles and instead spec into scrambler rifles?
1. That's a pretty big IF there, I'm operating on the assumption that its not likely to happen. But, either way no sweat off my back.
2. 1.8 looks like we're going to see more 'pigeon holing' of weapons being tied to drop suits (chiefly Commando/Assault).
We'd have to take a look at the changes to see if my #2 is going to be real or not. It sounds like Amarr Assault/Commando are going to be able to use laser weapons the way they can now, and everyone else is going to be having more trouble with them.
As far as Assault Rifles, I expect a big increase to kick and spread to balance the Gallente Assault's bonuses, so everyone else will be SOL.
Here's hoping I'm wrong on both points tho.
To answer your original question: its way to early to even guess until the medium suit changes/weapon changes come out. But I'd say which weapon you like more will determine what suit you skill into.
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
953
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:23:00 -
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The scrambler rifle is skilled differently than the assault rifles although to the other commenter they are the same. Indeed, they cannot be as they have two separate skill trees that do not share branches.
That bit a clarification aside, the question requires a little more information.
Each weapon requires a few million SP to skill into. If you have several million that will be freed up then one could spec into level three or four of a light weapon (for instance). Assault variants of most weapon are currently level four.
I would suggest spending as little SP as possible, using cheap/free fits as long as possible until the new OP FOTM has been determined. If the new weapon suits your style or is interesting then spending to level three or level four would reasonable.
Another alternative is to play FW and eek out enough LP to buy the reduced requirement version of the weapon, then you would know if it might be worth spending SP on.
CCP has dropped an OP weapon with nearly every patch (next up is some long range pistol), only to drop the Nerf Hammer of Doom on them soon afterwards. Sometimes with an announcement but more often with a silent Nerf that means players using said weapon have wasted SP on a weapon that no longer performs as described. The documentation is rarely correct in Dust (check the speed of the HAVs - 302kph and 1000+kph). Note that the CR and RR from 1.7 have yet to be Nerfed. Either they won't be or they will be in 1.8. Hard to say with CCP/Shanghai.
If CCP/Shanghai decides to do the correct thing and refund SP on all related functions after the destruction of the reasons to choose particular suits one should have enough SP to make a few changes. I chose several weapons based on suits that will be unworkable in 1.8 as the suit bonuses no longer are valid and the new ones require different weapon choices. The AR had been the backbone of the game until CCP/Shanghai finally put the Nerf on it for good, the latest being the significant reduction of range thus their newer guns (combat and rail rifles) were vastly superior weapons on release.
Of course, I wouldn't hold my breath or recommend that anyone else do it while waiting for CCP/Shanghai to do the right thing by the players. Ganking players is the backbone of CCP/Mothership corporate thinking. Doubt that? google CCP and HTFU video, it will clarify what CCP thinks of us.
And so it goes.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2370
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:24:00 -
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Spec the **** out of 1 completely badass FotM.
Hold the rest.
In 4-6 months you'll have enough to spec the newest FotM, while your current suit gets nerfed to complete uselessness.
Eventually, you'll be invested in everything, OR CCP will eventually learn the definition of "balance"
Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
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neausea 1987
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
18
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:38:00 -
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do what you feel comfortable using because in my opinion they cant nerf any weapon to the point where i cant get 20-30 kills its all about your gameplay style, i laugh my *ss of when i here people QQ about the AR being Up when i can use it with no skills specced in and still go positive. just do you
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ what i do to proto suit users
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1887
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:00:00 -
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If there is a respec I will run mlt suits with maxed core skills because I want to avoid the fotm and the UP suits.
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
209
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:08:00 -
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FoTM can suck it. I skill into the weapons I find most fun and the suits that best compliment them. If it gets nerfed or buffed, oh well, its an ebb and flow. Itll come around again. Having a few options makez game changes not sting so bad. Thats why I dont spec heavy into one thing.
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Chuckles Brown
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:09:00 -
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I hope they leave weapon respecs out of it. Sure, I would probably use the extra 100,000SP I used to dabble in lvl 1 weapons towards something a little more useful to me, but weapons need not a respec.
I worked my but off to build my setup for my character that plays to my strengths. I avoided FoTMs to concentrate on my main long-term goal and it paid off.
My SCR is maxed out, and everything that supports that weapon is as well. I'm well over 5m SP into it, so if anyone complains that I own them to easily in a match, tough cookies. I earned it.
If I was you I'd stick with the SCR. Its a great gun that's fun, different, and challenging to use.
The Official alt of 8213
Do you pub, brah?
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2372
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:11:00 -
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neausea 1987 wrote:do what you feel comfortable using because in my opinion they cant nerf any weapon to the point where i cant get 20-30 kills its all about your gameplay style, i laugh my *ss of when i here people QQ about the AR being Up when i can use it with no skills specced in and still go positive. just do you
Give it time, young one.
The proper nerf hammer will get you.
And your precious little KDR conscious play style, too.
Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
6933
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:31:00 -
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I like the ScR...but I'm biased aren't I?
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1216
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:34:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:If there is a respec I will run mlt suits with maxed core skills because I want to avoid the fotm and the UP suits.
This is whats wrong with CCPs slow nerf/buff/fix approach, everyone gets afraid to spend their SP.
Drop it like its hat.
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
25
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:36:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:If we get a full respec do I not repec back into assault rifles and instead spec into scrambler rifles? If CCP goes through with their current plans to tweak the proficiency skill, anyone how doesn't have a ScR or AR And a mag sec or SMG will be very sorry. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141276&find=unread
In that case, ill pull out the worst weapons and use them, just like I do now #PlasmaCannon
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3557
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:37:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:A better advice would be to spec into a suit and weapon you like or are comfortable with rather than speccing into the next FoTM.
Been doing that since I started, my logic: if it looks cool, I'll spec into it.....hence commandos and amarr logi
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command
Patron saint of Commandos =ƒÿç
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HYENAKILLER X
Knightz of the Round
Legacy Rising
568
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:35:00 -
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Omfg clown forum a**holes!
From this post on PLEASE either type AR or SCR.
90% didnt even answer the fcking question.
Holy fcking sht!!!!!!!
Tanks are for pussies.
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sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
78
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:54:00 -
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CR
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
90
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:28:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:If we get a full respec do I not repec back into assault rifles and instead spec into scrambler rifles?
Scrambler Rifle ftw |
LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
207
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:33:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:If we get a full respec do I not repec back into assault rifles and instead spec into scrambler rifles? If CCP goes through with their current plans to tweak the proficiency skill, anyone how doesn't have a ScR or AR And a mag sec or SMG will be very sorry. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=141276&find=unread
If there's a respec, I'm converting to Amarr Assault with full ScR (I absolutely love ScR now since I started using it more) and SMG or Magsec. The rest of SP is going back into drop suit core skills and vehicles because I like running tanks for AV.
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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