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COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 185	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:39:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: - There's a good chance that the Minmatar Assault bonus rounds to explosive weaponry will go away due to the buff to Mass Drivers. So, I'm disappointed by this. TBH I would rather the MD receive less of a buff and to keep the +5 clip bonus. If the Minmatar bonus is 25% ammo for projectile weaponry then we get no bonus if we want to run with MD and in fact we lose that bonus so that all other classes can use it to more or less the same effect. What do y'all think? Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
T'orq DUST University Ivy League 215	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:42:00 - [2] - Quote I would rather have more ammo instead of a bigger clip, but glad they are doing something with it Thanjac- Proud Commando Member
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 192	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:45:00 - [3] - Quote My only problem with increasing clip size is I'm pretty sure the weapon model has a 6 round drum doesn't it? Kinda bothers my OCD if a 6 round mag fires 12 or what ever number it ends up with. Give it a new drum and I don't care lol.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 242	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:48:00 - [4] - Quote T'orq wrote: I would rather have more ammo instead of a bigger clip, but glad they are doing something with it Maybe change it to clip size for projectiles and ammo capacity for MDs and Flaylocks.. But then the Flaylock community would be upset... Damn you unwinnable situation. Now that I have seen this statement on the Mass Driver, I am upset. And it was such a good Tuesday. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 242	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:50:00 - [5] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: My only problem with increasing clip size is I'm pretty sure the weapon model has a 6 round drum doesn't it? Kinda bothers my OCD if a 6 round mag fires 12 or what ever number it ends up with. Give it a new drum and I don't care lol. Nope, its actually 8 for all Mass Drivers, works well for the Assault variant. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 907	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:51:00 - [6] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: My only problem with increasing clip size is I'm pretty sure the weapon model has a 6 round drum doesn't it? Kinda bothers my OCD if a 6 round mag fires 12 or what ever number it ends up with. Give it a new drum and I don't care lol. Looks like a 8 round drum
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4107	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:53:00 - [7] - Quote A six round drum firing nine shots looks stupid anyways, son. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 242	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:55:00 - [8] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: A six round drum firing nine shots looks stupid anyways, son. But its not a six round drum. Go pull one out, you can count 8. Its basically for the Assault Variant, but more than one model was too much to ask for. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 8	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:02:00 - [9] - Quote There will be no real improvement to the MD after 1.8 You see, it hurts the bottom line too much. Does too much damage to the pay players and they threaten to spend less on AUR. So the devs figured out how to move some numbers around without actually buffing anything. It's like with the rail rifle. Rather than balance it, ccp plans to nerf ALL rifles but still allow the rr to reign supreme because it sells the best. How dumb does CCP think the playerbase is?
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 185	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:08:00 - [10] - Quote Alternate Insano wrote: There will be no real improvement to the MD after 1.8 You see, it hurts the bottom line too much. Does too much damage to the pay players and they threaten to spend less on AUR. So the devs figured out how to move some numbers around without actually buffing anything. It's like with the rail rifle. Rather than balance it, ccp plans to nerf ALL rifles but still allow the rr to reign supreme because it sells the best. How dumb does CCP think the playerbase is? gives you tin foil hat, goes and opens your curtains, opens the window, gives you a glass of milk and gives you a sympathetic 'it'll all be ok' look Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4107	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:11:00 - [11] - Quote Alternate Insano wrote: There will be no real improvement to the MD after 1.8 You see, it hurts the bottom line too much. Does too much damage to the pay players and they threaten to spend less on AUR. So the devs figured out how to move some numbers around without actually buffing anything. It's like with the rail rifle. Rather than balance it, ccp plans to nerf ALL rifles but still allow the rr to reign supreme because it sells the best. How dumb does CCP think the playerbase is? I think you judge before the act can be committed. I think the MD will be buffed. Question is, will it be nerfed afterward. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 243	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:11:00 - [12] - Quote Alternate Insano wrote: There will be no real improvement to the MD after 1.8 You see, it hurts the bottom line too much. Does too much damage to the pay players and they threaten to spend less on AUR. So the devs figured out how to move some numbers around without actually buffing anything. It's like with the rail rifle. Rather than balance it, ccp plans to nerf ALL rifles but still allow the rr to reign supreme because it sells the best. How dumb does CCP think the playerbase is? Rail rifle is the one getting mostly nerfed Fear The Tribes / Standings Minmatar 5 / Gallente 5 / Pilot
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 242	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:13:00 - [13] - Quote Alternate Insano wrote: There will be no real improvement to the MD after 1.8 You see, it hurts the bottom line too much. Does too much damage to the pay players and they threaten to spend less on AUR. So the devs figured out how to move some numbers around without actually buffing anything. It's like with the rail rifle. Rather than balance it, ccp plans to nerf ALL rifles but still allow the rr to reign supreme because it sells the best. How dumb does CCP think the playerbase is? Dude, shut the hell up. Your trolling has gotten annoying now. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 186	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:26:00 - [14] - Quote I wouldn't mind so much if that +5 went into explosive weapon ammo reserve instead...if we have to lose it from the clip. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 331	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:32:00 - [15] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: - There's a good chance that the Minmatar Assault bonus rounds to explosive weaponry will go away due to the buff to Mass Drivers. So, I'm disappointed by this. TBH I would rather the MD receive less of a buff and to keep the +5 clip bonus. If the Minmatar bonus is 25% ammo for projectile weaponry then we get no bonus if we want to run with MD and in fact we lose that bonus so that all other classes can use it to more or less the same effect. What do y'all think? Personally, it's not a big deal just means every suit will see a larger MD clip instead of just one type. 32db Mad Bomber.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 244	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:34:00 - [16] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: - There's a good chance that the Minmatar Assault bonus rounds to explosive weaponry will go away due to the buff to Mass Drivers. So, I'm disappointed by this. TBH I would rather the MD receive less of a buff and to keep the +5 clip bonus. If the Minmatar bonus is 25% ammo for projectile weaponry then we get no bonus if we want to run with MD and in fact we lose that bonus so that all other classes can use it to more or less the same effect. What do y'all think? Personally, it's not a big deal just means every suit will see a larger MD clip instead of just one type. No, we get a damage buff, the clip stays the same.. Its more the issue that half the Minny weapons (MD, Flaylock) won't be bonused by the Assault bonus, it would seem. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 96	Posted - 2014.02.13 14:00:00 - [17] - Quote As a dedicated masshole, I'm very happy that they reconsider the Min Assault bonus! A huge clip would get the MD nerfed again faster than you can empty said clip. Constant explosive barrages are no fun, and the small amount of ammo in the clip is one of the major things that balance the MD. The Min Assault should either get a rate of fire buff for explosive weapons (higher alpha damage), or a bigger ammo pool (the current amount of ammunition carried for the MD is very small). Alternatively I would like to see a DIRECT damage increse, which would help in certain situations (defend doorways against incoming forces). This would also reward careful aligning of shots instead of spamming all over the place. cheers Mad
abarkrishna WarRavens 295	Posted - 2014.02.13 14:45:00 - [18] - Quote It will get buffed. Until I start using It more again. Then people will whine and it will get nerfed. But as someone already stated with up to 13 rounds per clip it would be way to powerful. The small clip size does help balance it out. Especially in CQC. I do think it would be a better bonus to add a large ammo pool instead of clip size. You can trust me Im a beta masshole. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 655	Posted - 2014.02.13 15:16:00 - [19] - Quote God dammit ! How foolish are Dust514 players..... Considering how powerful everything else is the MD needs buffing A huge clip is in no way a buff as unless you are camping you'l be dead before you get half a clip out.... I think the expanded clipsize is cool, but really un-necessary Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon will have its chance if AR/HAV 514 is ever fixed
Kaughst Nyain San Renegade Alliance 196	Posted - 2014.02.13 15:28:00 - [20] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: - There's a good chance that the Minmatar Assault bonus rounds to explosive weaponry will go away due to the buff to Mass Drivers. So, I'm disappointed by this. TBH I would rather the MD receive less of a buff and to keep the +5 clip bonus. If the Minmatar bonus is 25% ammo for projectile weaponry then we get no bonus if we want to run with MD and in fact we lose that bonus so that all other classes can use it to more or less the same effect. What do y'all think? Personally, it's not a big deal just means every suit will see a larger MD clip instead of just one type. No, we get a damage buff, the clip stays the same.. Its more the issue that half the Minny weapons (MD, Flaylock) won't be bonused by the Assault bonus, it would seem. CCP said that was not all that the MD would be getting, there might be a buff to the clip also or ammo capacity or both. "That is not how you say my name." "How do you say your name?" "I don't know but that is not how you say it."

KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 485	Posted - 2014.02.13 15:43:00 - [21] - Quote I don't think the Mass Driver needs a damage buff, but it does need a ammo capacity + magazine buff. It's really hard to kill a proto suit with 6 mass driver rounds, and it sucks that as a Logi i often have to hog hives to myself. Base MD should be 8, Assault should be 10, and ammo capacity should be +12.
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 683	Posted - 2014.02.13 15:52:00 - [22] - Quote gun model aside, I think the total ammo count total needs an increase... if they buff damage enough, then maybe the extra clip size isn't necessarily warranted - it's a hard call to make.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 99	Posted - 2014.02.13 15:55:00 - [23] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: God dammit ! How foolish are Dust514 players..... Considering how powerful everything else is the MD needs buffing A huge clip is in no way a buff as unless you are camping you'l be dead before you get half a clip out.... I think the expanded clipsize is cool, but really un-necessary You are right and wrong at the same time... The bigger clip wouldn't help against anyone with good gungame, since you would still go down before you get two shots on the target. A bigger clip would however increase the spamming of the MD which is bad in any case! If the MD needs anything, it's higher alpha damage if you can hit the target directly. But it needs the gaps in the barrage, to give opponents the possibillity of a counterattack. Right now, I can 3-6 shot a medium suit, if i put loads of damage mods on an EXO-5. If the medium suit is tanked and keeps calm, he'll shoot me before that. If he's proto with proto weapon, I'm lucky if I get two rounds out before I die. So higher alpha is what the MD needs, and the buff to damage is a step in the right direction. A bigger clip however is not, since it doesn't give higher alpha, nor helps with the pathetic amount of ammo the MD brings with it. To profit from a bigger clip, you need to stay in cover and blindly spam MD rounds, with a hive at your feet. If you want that go with a bigger clip!


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