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Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 189	Posted - 2014.02.11 11:57:00 - [1] - Quote I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned here and there around the forms, but searching didn't turn up anything specific, so here goes. I think a very interesting feature to add to Sniper Rifles would be the ability to tag enemies. So basically when you have an enemy in your sights, you can press some secondary fire button (probably L2) to tag the enemy, effectively lighting him up like an active scanner would. Only let the tags last significantly longer than a scanner would, but balance this by only giving the sniper a handful of active tags that he can have available at one time (say maybe 3-6). Potentially increase number of active tags with gear level (although I know everyone rails against creating a bigger gap between STD and PRO) and/or add a skill to the SR to increase active tags available. I believe this would help give snipers an actual team-based role on the battlefield. And giving them WP for the intel assists would actually encourage them to actively help out their squad, so we have less snipers just sitting in one place the whole match trying to do nothing but rack up kills. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 191	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:04:00 - [2] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I think only one Sniper Rifle should do this. It should be the Gallante. What makes you think this? I feel like the Caldari SR would be kinda better for scouting anyway, given it's range. But if we did get a sniper rifle for each race I don't see why they couldn't all use this feature. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 192	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:28:00 - [3] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Summ Dude wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I think only one Sniper Rifle should do this. It should be the Gallante. What makes you think this? I feel like the Caldari SR would be kinda better for scouting anyway, given it's range. But if we did get a sniper rifle for each race I don't see why they couldn't all use this feature. I think the Gallante Sniper Rifle will get the short end of the stick because it will have the lowest range and yet the Minmatar Rifle will still fire faster. I just thought that it would be cool if it got a unique ability. Me and some others in the IRC actually just had a lengthy discussion about what the Gallente Sniper Rifle might look like. We were imagining a short range, very high damage shot, with just one round per clip. But anyway, I see no reasons all Snipers shouldn't be able to scout a bit for their team. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 200	Posted - 2014.02.12 07:24:00 - [4] - Quote Bump. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 201	Posted - 2014.02.12 07:54:00 - [5] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: +1, I mentioned a similar system in Gen Disc in a conversation with Arkena recently. I support this 1000% Gen Disc? Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 202	Posted - 2014.02.12 09:39:00 - [6] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: As if active scanners weren't bad enough, for this to be active scanners need to be removed first I don't really see how that's necessary. They both offer different inherent strengths and weaknesses. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 203	Posted - 2014.02.12 10:59:00 - [7] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: Summ Dude wrote: I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned here and there around the forms, but searching didn't turn up anything specific, so here goes. I think a very interesting feature to add to Sniper Rifles would be the ability to tag enemies. So basically when you have an enemy in your sights, you can press some secondary fire button (probably L2) to tag the enemy, effectively lighting him up like an active scanner would. Only let the tags last significantly longer than a scanner would, but balance this by only giving the sniper a handful of active tags that he can have available at one time (say maybe 3-6). Potentially increase number of active tags with gear level (although I know everyone rails against creating a bigger gap between STD and PRO) and/or add a skill to the SR to increase active tags available. I believe this would help give snipers an actual team-based role on the battlefield. And giving them WP for the intel assists would actually encourage them to actively help out their squad, so we have less snipers just sitting in one place the whole match trying to do nothing but rack up kills. maybe the sniper should get variations of ammo, lethal and non-lethal. would add more tactics to the sniper class, and require skill to use Um, what exactly would non-lethal bullets do in Dust? Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 203	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:22:00 - [8] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: Are you asking for a spotting system similar to battlefield games? Because if you are than active scanners would be near useless unless everyone was underground and scanners scan abilities should be reduced by things such as buildings or hills Never really played Battlefield. But anyway, I don't think Active Scanners would be useless at all. Like I said, they still have the ability to scan as many people as they can fit in their scan radius, whereas a sniper could only have a handful of tags active at the same time. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 203	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:43:00 - [9] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: Summ Dude wrote: killertojo42 wrote: Are you asking for a spotting system similar to battlefield games? Because if you are than active scanners would be near useless unless everyone was underground and scanners scan abilities should be reduced by things such as buildings or hills Never really played Battlefield. But anyway, I don't think Active Scanners would be useless at all. Like I said, they still have the ability to scan as many people as they can fit in their scan radius, whereas a sniper could only have a handful of tags active at the same time. Ok you need to play as a battlefield sniper and see how easy it is to scan a whole team Did you....read my original suggestion? The SR's tags would be hard capped at around 5 or so. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 206	Posted - 2014.02.12 13:51:00 - [10] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: Summ Dude wrote: killertojo42 wrote: Summ Dude wrote: killertojo42 wrote: Are you asking for a spotting system similar to battlefield games? Because if you are than active scanners would be near useless unless everyone was underground and scanners scan abilities should be reduced by things such as buildings or hills Never really played Battlefield. But anyway, I don't think Active Scanners would be useless at all. Like I said, they still have the ability to scan as many people as they can fit in their scan radius, whereas a sniper could only have a handful of tags active at the same time. Ok you need to play as a battlefield sniper and see how easy it is to scan a whole team Did you....read my original suggestion? The SR's tags would be hard capped at around 5 or so. There's suggestions and then there's how CCP would screw it up, I'm imagining a scenario where CCP actually does something with your idea Seems rather grim. But I'm not interested in imagining hypothetical disasters. This is my idea, and I think it would work well. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.

Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 207	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:51:00 - [11] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: its called a head set or be the squad leader and use attack orders to pin locations you fail to describe. Headsets aren't nearly as efficient as just lighting up a target. Only the squad leader can use attack orders, and only one at a time, and they don't last very long. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 212	Posted - 2014.02.13 21:49:00 - [12] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: why can only snipers do it then ? Because it would give them a more established team-based role; one that tends to be associated with being a Sniper. Justice Darling wrote: I like the idea, but if you think about it 3-6 tags shoot a tag out and someone dies with-in sec's of getting that tag on before it even turns on kind of a waste of time. What was the point really i can see tagging another sniper so they light up but would just be easier to just kill them and be done with it, now tagging tanks and what not that may be helpful It would be useful if you saw a squad of reds moving towards your squad. You could quickly hover over the enemies and tag them all. Or tag enemy sniper positions or a Scout moving too quick to snipe. I see no reason this feature couldn't be applied to vehicles. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 213	Posted - 2014.02.13 22:37:00 - [13] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: I would support this as long as it is more active than Battlefield spotting. Seriously in that game you just spam the SPOT button and you light up an entire team. A limit on number of spots doesn't really add any active use to sniping. You will just spot and move on to the next target. However I would love if you ADS and spot, as long as you keep them in your scope they stay lit up. Will give a nice way to impart a little bit of strategy. Saying things like hey there's several guys heading your way and then spotting the lead guy would really aid a squad. Did you not see that I suggested having the tags stay lit up for a while? Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 214	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:30:00 - [14] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: Summ Dude wrote: Ku Shala wrote: why can only snipers do it then ? Because it would give them a more established team-based role; one that tends to be associated with being a Sniper. Justice Darling wrote: I like the idea, but if you think about it 3-6 tags shoot a tag out and someone dies with-in sec's of getting that tag on before it even turns on kind of a waste of time. What was the point really i can see tagging another sniper so they light up but would just be easier to just kill them and be done with it, now tagging tanks and what not that may be helpful It would be useful if you saw a squad of reds moving towards your squad. You could quickly hover over the enemies and tag them all. Or tag enemy sniper positions or a Scout moving too quick to snipe. I see no reason this feature couldn't be applied to vehicles. First off nothing is to fast to snipe, in fact its really fun to snipe drivers, and not sure if you have seen, nothing is really quick in this game and if it is, it will get nerfed for good reason. From my understanding of what was being asked it sounded like a hand held tracker gun, you know like the one in battlefield 2 or 3. The tracker red dot that is need to lock missiles on that is what I thought was being talked about and some cheap I hit R2 your all tagged junk. If that is what we are talking about then, No its not needed pick up a scanner and do something with your match. Then my hunch would be you didn't actually read the original post. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.
Summ Dude Direct Action Resources 215	Posted - 2014.02.14 04:51:00 - [15] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: so because you equip a light weapon you get to have special abilities? sounds unbalanced, make it an equip maybe but souldnt the sniper just kill the targets to be useful? That's like saying equipping an AV weapon gives you "special abilities". It gives you a more specifically designed role, yes, which I something I feel snipers lack right now. That is the main point of this idea, giving snipers a chance to actually be rewarded for helping their squad/team, in a way that already feels perfectly natural for snipers. Not just a laymen, but the laymen. Winn Summ and lose Summ.