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As someone who wants the MDs buff, the flaylock isn't bad where it's at.

Low fitting cost, practically no CPU and I think no PG. It's good for getting AoE hits and if your target gets contact with the projectile it's good damage.

Yes that d be great! And maybe a bit more range, not a lot, just a bit

Flaylock does need a buff.
To shotgun users, what do shotguns need? I notice they only have like a 4 meter optimal range, I think the spread is enough to warrant a bit higher range; 10 meters maybe.

Wait, since when was the mass driver UP? I can still spam shots at the ground bunny hopping like an idiot and get plenty of kills

And since the lock is being discussed its projectiles need a speed increase and that is it

Dont buff the flaylock, can you imagine a Min assault with a buffed flaylock with 8 shots per clip?

Flaylock does need a buff.
To shotgun users, what do shotguns need? I notice they only have like a 4 meter optimal range, I think the spread is enough to warrant a bit higher range; 10 meters maybe.

I think a Min assault with a flaylock with 8 shots is all but uselesd

Shotguns only buff required is a hit detection fix...

Then you're trying to balance a weapons DPS that has a visible travel, with no real arc, and splash damage with a weapons that need a direct hit to work.

If you match the DPS with ScP (for example) then people will choose the flaylock over it every time, but if the DPS for ScP is higher then everyone will choose the ScP because people will chose the doom laser oppose to the potato cannon. It requires way too much experimenting.

Why is it impossible? Because it has travel time?

I don't want another "conventional pistol."
- The Scrambler Pistol is already a "conventional pistol" in the way it operates.
- The Bolt Pistol will be a machine pistol (has automatic fire, even if it's a rather low RoF)
- The Ion Pistol will be a charge pistol

So the Flaylock needs to remain a unique.
- Maybe a limited tracking function for the projectiles (With Other Parameters Changed for Balance)
- Maybe a proximity detonation for the round (WOPCB)
- Or it could keep it's current mechanics and just have it's numbers tweaked a bit more.

Aye, the ScP can do 435 damage a shot, but that's only if the user is able to land them all on the head, the smallest target. Body shots do only 88 at proto, the Flaylock does twice that at STD level, and also is more forgiving because it has an AoE range (that grows with levels and tiers, starting at 1m at lvl 1 and STD and ending at 1.8 at PRO). I am quite certain that it's direct damage, splash damage (which is 87% of direct, a high percentage) and splash range that will make it comparable.

When speaking about sidearms everyone become a superhero of aim and can Land every single shot of his scp on the Head of the opponent. Wow... Maybe I m the only one that sometime miss a shot.

Increase the radius too much and you get flaylock 514 again. The weapon was designed to be a panic weapon not a suppression weapon like the MD. The problem is that CCP did too good of a job so people started running around with dual flaylocks with damage mods.

Camera shake from explosions makes this worse because it's more difficult to aim. I even made a thread on removing or reducing camera shake a few months ago. I don't believe in it anymore because the damn aim-assist made it less relevant, but it's still a problem sometimes.



Most enemies are the same height, it's not hard if your weapon is pinpoint accurate.

How much of a radius buff do you have in mind? I need to look at the stats for the flaylock as it exists now again.

advanced flaylock uses no PG

The Specialist uses 0.

Core uses 2.

With enough Optimization skills, you can fit a Proto Flaylock for around 17 CPU and 2 PG. Great deal if you can use them right.

Combine with 1.8 assault bonus (8 round flaylock), and I am really being tempted to skill into Proto Assault before Proto Scout

shotgun is already buffed and is good.

plasma cannon and flaylock desparately need it.

if you really wanted to fix the Flaylock just increase the missile's velocity as it leaves the barrel(you see how slow that missle is?),as for anyone saying it needs more AOE...it's a freaking missile shooter not a mini grenade gun.

shot gun is fine . what you want to one shot 1200 life ? with speed tanked suit lol