DUST Search - A Greenberry Even More Useless Than A Blueberry!?!?!?

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

Thumb Green wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

Thumb Green wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

it may be easy for you to just to "hold a point" in your amarr assault, but in case you didn't realize, scouts aren't very good in 3v1s against stacked logis and assaults.

Like I said, a squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with.

Edit. So it was you guys that were the greenberries that turned out to be more useless than blueberries.

don't kid yourself.

The only one kidding themselves here is you by calling the only person on your squad that was actually trying, useless. You guys are obviously the ones that were being useless by running up to 5 scouts when a squad only needs 1 or 2 at most. The worse part is that you chose to be useless because I know you've been here long enough to have enough SP to run good fits other than scouts.

Don't try to make yourself feel better by blaming your own uselessness on other people that are actually trying.

nope. i have almost 26 million sp and all of my viable fits are scouts, with the only exception being a 550 melee damage cal med frame ck.0. and who said we weren't trying? there's a difference between being smart about trying to get the objective and just blindly running in trying to hack it even though there are multiple enemies surrounding you.

i know the limitations of my suit. i'm not going to try to take on 3 stacked logis head on with an advanced scout suit. that doesn't mean i'm being useless, it just means i'm being smart.

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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1425	Posted - 2014.02.10 16:07:00 - [1] - Quote i was in a match recently with a corp that i forgot the name of. maybe it was dragon-age or dragone-empire or something like that, but anyway, they were a pretty cool group of guys, except for one kid who sounded like he was no older than 10. i understand 10 year old logic can be very flawed, but i was just awe-struck at the amount of stupidity this kid was spewing. we were playing a domination and most of us were scouts, except for him. the enemy got the point, and we all kind of separated and started doing our thing. after a while, i hear this kid start insulting his own corpmates saying, "am i the only one with half a brain around here?", or "how many times do i have to say cover me while i'm hacking!" they tried to explain to him that he couldn't expect scouts to "cover him" from heavies and proto stacked assaults, but he didn't want to hear any of that. he just kept trying to solo hack the objective, running STRAIGHT PAST enemies expecting us to cover him when we are no where near him. needless to say, this kid who thought he knew what he was doing proceeded to go 1/17 and effectively rage quit. i don't think i've ever seen a more useless squadmate in my entire time playing DUST... Anime > EVERYTHING
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 151	Posted - 2014.02.10 16:11:00 - [2] - Quote Anime > EVERYTHING so true
neausea 1987 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 12	Posted - 2014.02.10 16:15:00 - [3] - Quote im not saying kids cannot play games but dont these things have maturity ratings lol, i hope he does not grow up to be a rage quitting woman beater. (honey i just went 1-18 it's all your fault SMACK ) (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ what i do to proto suit users
Admonishment The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 81	Posted - 2014.02.10 16:22:00 - [4] - Quote I just mute people lol, that is if they are one of those types that think everyone is using the same exact bricked suit or weapon they have on them. The one thing I cant stand is when you are luring 1-3 into a trap and someone rushes past you and goes in guns blazing lol... Level 5 proficiency in throat punching
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 1057	Posted - 2014.02.10 16:22:00 - [5] - Quote The blueberry and greenberry terms are just useless, everyone can be an idiot regardless of what color their dot is. I've went into matches often times alone, which would make me a blueberry, and still work well to benefit the team and win the game ultimately, and I often score on the top of the scoreboard. Equally, greenberries can be annoying and clueless idiots who have no concept of teamwork. Sure, there are always going to be those people who just go sniping right away and get one kill the entire match, and those who completely ignore you when you're in need of a revive even in safe places, but both squad members and non-squad members are prone to do this. The reason why your average non-squad member seems to be more stupid and/or clueless is because they might be part of another squad, following their own orders which might look useless to you, but serve to benefit his squad. Or in case of unsquadded players, they usually go do their own things as there is no one to guide them. A blueberry can't know that people are coming without a squad member using an active scanner, leaving him oblivious to danger and quickly killed because he got no warning at all aside a vague "You have been scanned" message before dying. Without this kind of information, they are often left clueless as to what to do and where to go to be the most effective, so they just wander around aimlessly trying to find something to kill. When you keep dying over and over again to organized players, even if they're not protostomping, many of them resort to sniping because then they can minimize the risk of death and still have something to do. People usually determine the value of a non-squad member on the limited information they're given from the few glimpses they saw him in battle, and the scoreboard result at the end of a match. Someone who only got 25 warpoints and died 20 times may seem like a waste of clones, but he could have just been trying to defend a heavily contested objective and kept being slaughtered by better equipped and skilled players. There's a lot of information you don't know about the people you see on the scoreboard, and low scores don't always mean that they're bad players. But MCC shooters and redline missile installation campers are still idiots, as are the people the OP described. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 729	Posted - 2014.02.10 16:30:00 - [6] - Quote A squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with so I don't blame the kid for getting mad at you guys for dicking around. The point of Dom is take the objective and hold it; not prance around the map getting ninja kills that doesn't even effect the tide of battle. Edit: A squad is supposed to help each other out, not do their own thing. That's why you're in a squad and if you don't want to help them out then you should be running solo. Support Orbital Spawns
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1427	Posted - 2014.02.10 16:36:00 - [7] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: A squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with so I don't blame the kid for getting mad at you guys for dicking around. The point of Dom is take the objective and hold it; not prance around the map getting ninja kills that doesn't even effect the tide of battle. it may be easy for you to just to "hold a point" in your amarr assault, but in case you didn't realize, scouts aren't very good in 3v1s against stacked logis and assaults. Anime > EVERYTHING
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 729	Posted - 2014.02.10 16:37:00 - [8] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Thumb Green wrote: A squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with so I don't blame the kid for getting mad at you guys for dicking around. The point of Dom is take the objective and hold it; not prance around the map getting ninja kills that doesn't even effect the tide of battle. it may be easy for you to just to "hold a point" in your amarr assault, but in case you didn't realize, scouts aren't very good in 3v1s against stacked logis and assaults. Like I said, a squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with. Support Orbital Spawns
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 194	Posted - 2014.02.10 16:39:00 - [9] - Quote The fact that the kid alone went 1-17 tells me that he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. I mean I went higher than that against Nyain San in PC matches. It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 207	Posted - 2014.02.10 16:51:00 - [10] - Quote Last night I had the same experience only opposite. I was squadded up with a couple of vets who were obviously good, they both had good scores, like 19-0, but our team kept losing. A big part of that was because they were hunting snipers and spawn camping instead of taking and holding the objective. Your kid might have been stupid but I'd trade the two I had for him any day. Because, that's why.

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1430	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:16:00 - [11] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Thumb Green wrote: A squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with so I don't blame the kid for getting mad at you guys for dicking around. The point of Dom is take the objective and hold it; not prance around the map getting ninja kills that doesn't even effect the tide of battle. it may be easy for you to just to "hold a point" in your amarr assault, but in case you didn't realize, scouts aren't very good in 3v1s against stacked logis and assaults. Like I said, a squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with. Edit. So it was you guys that were the greenberries that turned out to be more useless than blueberries. don't kid yourself. Anime > EVERYTHING
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 85	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:29:00 - [12] - Quote yea i sorta gave up on mic after this u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 736	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:49:00 - [13] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Thumb Green wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: it may be easy for you to just to "hold a point" in your amarr assault, but in case you didn't realize, scouts aren't very good in 3v1s against stacked logis and assaults. Like I said, a squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with. Edit. So it was you guys that were the greenberries that turned out to be more useless than blueberries. don't kid yourself. The only one kidding themselves here is you by calling the only person on your squad that was actually trying, useless. You guys are obviously the ones that were being useless by running up to 5 scouts when a squad only needs 1 or 2 at most. The worse part is that you chose to be useless because I know you've been here long enough to have enough SP to run good fits other than scouts. Don't try to make yourself feel better by blaming your own uselessness on other people that are actually trying. Support Orbital Spawns
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 365	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:52:00 - [14] - Quote well now were insulting little kids Great.................... "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Lucrezia LeGrand 305	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:56:00 - [15] - Quote a squad of good scouts can be very scary. I've seen a couple in dom run to the other side, hack all installations, then take out droplinks, leaving the enemy flanked, and vulnerable. Red berries held the objective, but with no outside support and were essentially ducks in a barrel and quickly wiped out. That said, I love clueless blueberries. they're kind of cute in a noob sort of way. But a clueless greenberry with a mic that rage quits? ugh.. that would make me rage quit. Thale groupie
Fusion Commander Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 88	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:56:00 - [16] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: i was in a match recently with a corp that i forgot the name of. maybe it was dragon-age or dragone-empire or something like that, but anyway, they were a pretty cool group of guys, except for one kid who sounded like he was no older than 10. i understand 10 year old logic can be very flawed, but i was just awe-struck at the amount of stupidity this kid was spewing. we were playing a domination and most of us were scouts, except for him. the enemy got the point, and we all kind of separated and started doing our thing. after a while, i hear this kid start insulting his own corpmates saying, "am i the only one with half a brain around here?", or "how many times do i have to say cover me while i'm hacking!" they tried to explain to him that he couldn't expect scouts to "cover him" from heavies and proto stacked assaults, but he didn't want to hear any of that. he just kept trying to solo hack the objective, running STRAIGHT PAST enemies expecting us to cover him when we are no where near him. needless to say, this kid who thought he knew what he was doing proceeded to go 1/17 and effectively rage quit. i don't think i've ever seen a more useless squadmate in my entire time playing DUST... I'm pretty sure I know who your talking about a few months back he added me as a contact and would constantly try to get me and a few other players he thought were good into his corp by spamming mails and chat channels every once in a while those other people were convincing him to stop but he just wouldn't listen. Then later he joined a corp called Dragon-Empire and wanted me to join, but at this point I was annoyed and just ignored him. I have seen him on the scout channel recently but I'm pretty sure he does run scout
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1432	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:07:00 - [17] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Thumb Green wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: it may be easy for you to just to "hold a point" in your amarr assault, but in case you didn't realize, scouts aren't very good in 3v1s against stacked logis and assaults. Like I said, a squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with. Edit. So it was you guys that were the greenberries that turned out to be more useless than blueberries. don't kid yourself. The only one kidding themselves here is you by calling the only person on your squad that was actually trying, useless. You guys are obviously the ones that were being useless by running up to 5 scouts when a squad only needs 1 or 2 at most. The worse part is that you chose to be useless because I know you've been here long enough to have enough SP to run good fits other than scouts. Don't try to make yourself feel better by blaming your own uselessness on other people that are actually trying. nope. i have almost 26 million sp and all of my viable fits are scouts, with the only exception being a 550 melee damage cal med frame ck.0. and who said we weren't trying? there's a difference between being smart about trying to get the objective and just blindly running in trying to hack it even though there are multiple enemies surrounding you. i know the limitations of my suit. i'm not going to try to take on 3 stacked logis head on with an advanced scout suit. that doesn't mean i'm being useless, it just means i'm being smart. Anime > EVERYTHING
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 737	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:36:00 - [18] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Thumb Green wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Thumb Green wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: it may be easy for you to just to "hold a point" in your amarr assault, but in case you didn't realize, scouts aren't very good in 3v1s against stacked logis and assaults. Like I said, a squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with. Edit. So it was you guys that were the greenberries that turned out to be more useless than blueberries. don't kid yourself. The only one kidding themselves here is you by calling the only person on your squad that was actually trying, useless. You guys are obviously the ones that were being useless by running up to 5 scouts when a squad only needs 1 or 2 at most. The worse part is that you chose to be useless because I know you've been here long enough to have enough SP to run good fits other than scouts. Don't try to make yourself feel better by blaming your own uselessness on other people that are actually trying. nope. i have almost 26 million sp and all of my viable fits are scouts, with the only exception being a 550 melee damage cal med frame ck.0. and who said we weren't trying? there's a difference between being smart about trying to get the objective and just blindly running in trying to hack it even though there are multiple enemies surrounding you. i know the limitations of my suit. i'm not going to try to take on 3 stacked logis head on with an advanced scout suit. that doesn't mean i'm being useless, it just means i'm being smart. I have 22 mil, I have a proto slayer logi and real logi fit with adv equipment, I have a heavy proto hmg & proto forge both with prof 4 I have most weapons to adv (except flaylock, Scr, Scp, shotgun, & nova knives); I can be long range, short range, or cqc. I can be a killer or a healer and certainly my fits are lacking in areas but they get the job done most of the time and when one role becomes useless I switch to one that isn't.. You said yourself that the enemy took the objective and there was nothing you could do about it in your scout suit (thus you were being useless) and now you say you were playing smart? What were you doing, trying to starve them out? Or were you actually just getting ninja kills on strays that had absolutely no impact on the the tide of battle? Support Orbital Spawns
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1940	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:40:00 - [19] - Quote Why does everyone bag on the little guys, your setting up a bad stereotype for the actual good ones. Charlotte O'Dell is a liar, that's only a piece of corn & I'm the one and only majestic unicorn.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1417	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:45:00 - [20] - Quote Your job in Dom is to hack the point. Screwing around treating a Dom like team deathmatch, the fault is on you. You would've been probably more useful in a basic heavy frame on the point than screwing around as a scout not on the point. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2452	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:47:00 - [21] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Why does everyone bag on the little guys, your setting up a bad stereotype for the actual good ones. I think I have met that particular kid. He is rather annoying. At least when they are that age there is some hope they will grow out of it. I have run into some people who were supposedly adults who were even worse. Not much hope for them. I have a couple of 12 year olds in my corp. They seem cool. One of them always calls me GÇ£sirGÇ¥ which is a nice touch. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 979	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:49:00 - [22] - Quote so you were all in scout suits and he was the only one attempting to take the point... i think he has a right to be a bit pissed at you for not supporting him or the rest of the team. I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Foxbat 071 Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 123	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:08:00 - [23] - Quote 1. Some of you don't understand that scouts don't camp an objective, they scatter and flank. Try playing as a real scout sometime. 2. Some of the best squads I run with are full scout squads. You only need 1-2 scouts? Maybe in PC, but it's perfectly viable in pubs. I'm eager to see the FOTM chasers spending their refunded SP into scouts come 1.8. It won't be long before they realize scouts aren't mini assaults and beg for another respec. *BLAP* ( X ) Call For Help ( O ) Respawn
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 744	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:28:00 - [24] - Quote Foxbat 071 wrote: 1. Some of you don't understand that scouts don't camp an objective, they scatter and flank. Try playing as a real scout sometime. 2. Some of the best squads I run with are full scout squads. You only need 1-2 scouts? Maybe in PC, but it's perfectly viable in pubs. I'm eager to see the FOTM chasers spending their refunded SP into scouts come 1.8. It won't be long before they realize scouts aren't mini assaults and beg for another respec. 1. No, we understand that but flanking in objective based modes is only useful when it enables the capture of the objective or routing of the enemy trying to capture the objective from your team. Neither of which were apparently happening in the match being discussed. 2. Sure it's viable in ambushes where it's only kill or be killed. But in an objective based mode when that squad can't capture or assist in the capture of the objective and defend or assist in the defense of the objective then that squad is not viable; it's just useless dead weight. And in the match being discussed he clearly states that his squad of scouts couldn't do anything about the objective. If they want to play an objective based mode then they should play for the objective; if they just want to play for kills then they should play ambush. However I don't expect a group of scouts to capture and hold an objective, What I do expect is when a persons role is useless in the current situation that they don't say it's not my fault that I'm useless and then point the finger at someone else. Support Orbital Spawns
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1440	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:47:00 - [25] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Your job in Dom is to hack the point. Screwing around treating a Dom like team deathmatch, the fault is on you. You would've been probably more useful in a basic heavy frame on the point than screwing around as a scout not on the point. yup, and die 15 times to still not get the objective. 6 people vs. 14 people, 8 of which are proto logis and assaults just isn't gonna happen. Anime > EVERYTHING
safura trotsky Kill Mode Activated 2	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:53:00 - [26] - Quote it has nothing to do with greenberries being useless, just don't play with 10 year olds LOL Thanks for picking me up blueberry!...and again...and again...STAHP!!!
safura trotsky Kill Mode Activated 2	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:54:00 - [27] - Quote it has nothing to do with greenberries being useless, just don't play with 10 year olds LOL Thanks for picking me up blueberry!...and again...and again...STAHP!!!
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 368	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:54:00 - [28] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Why does everyone bag on the little guys, your setting up a bad stereotype for the actual good ones. Yes iv met plenty of very good player wich are around 10 heck i have a little cosin ho is 7 dat has a positive K/D Also im only 14 and while my stat's are garbage ask any corp member im quit a decent player ( I have bad stats as well im 14, i like to mess around a lot XD) "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 495	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:56:00 - [29] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: A squad doesn't need 5 scouts to begin with so I don't blame the kid for getting mad at you guys for dicking around. The point of Dom is take the objective and hold it; not prance around the map getting ninja kills that doesn't even effect the tide of battle. Edit: A squad is supposed to help each other out, not do their own thing. That's why you're in a squad and if you don't want to help them out then you should be running solo. Something's telling me this guy doesn't usually run as a scoutGÇªJust a weird vibe I'm getting... Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 606	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:03:00 - [30] - Quote Call me reckless, stupid whatever. But if someone's trying to hack, scout or not, I will defend at least while he's hacking, but not if he's zerging like he has a death wish into a group of reds. He's being reckless, but don't bash a 10 year old who think he knows everything. Not matter how annoying he is. Psycho boink That was my baseball bouncing off walls with extreme trig to hit you in the face Sandman



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