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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:09:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:I've gone from disliking, to liking, to intensely disliking this event.
At first I thought 'this will be an awful grind'. Then I started using HMG and enjoyed the change of pace. But after a while it became an awful grind after all. I am sick of having to run HMGs every game if I want to taste a reasonable amount of the extra SP. (I don't like tower forging in pubs, and FG is not really going to get you many kills if you're on the ground.)
I know it's bonus SP, in addition to the usual SP payout. But CCP know and every player knows that SP is the main thing, or at least one of the main things, driving the game. People pay actual money for boosters, so of course they're going to go out of their way to get extra SP. The problem is, it is not fun, AT ALL, to run the same weapon (one I wouldn't usually use) every game. And we're only a few days into the event - how bored is everyone who's doing the event going to be in a week and a half?
I play the game most days, but I'm still only getting 500 kills per week, so about 1000 for the duration of the event. That's more than most of the playerbase. But with the 500SP per HMG/FG kill bonus and 750,000SP bonus cap, you need 1,500 kills. So even if I use HMG constantly, I'm not going to hit the cap.
The cap should have been set way lower. I thought 400,000 at first, but even that is too high. I think 200,000 or 300,000 would have been better.
400,000SP is 800 kills, so given I'm getting some kills with grenades, SMGs and OBs even when I carry HMG, even a 400,000SP cap would mean I had to carry HMG every game if I'm going to get all the bonus SP. So that's just as grindy as 750,000SP. But with 200,000 or 300,000, you 'only' need 400 or 600 kills. So a player who plays roughly as much as I do would get a little 'wriggle room', and wouldn't need to run HMG every game.
Please CCP, for future events, set the 'number of kills with specific weapons (HMG/FG in this case) to exhaust bonus SP' much lower. Setting it as high as 750,000, or even 400,000-500,000, just makes the event ubergrindy. At least with the vanilla trebled SP cap you could play how you wanted. I feel like this event turns players off from the game, by forcing them to choose between SP and enjoyment.
Finally, I should say that event stat tracking is also very much needed. Thanks for the feedback. The grind element is there for this event partly to encourage players to play more. However, I also understand where you're coming from, to some, this could seem to be excessive. The idea is to give players a big SP bonus, so we set it to 750K. The feeling of it being a grind is in the SP per kill amount. If we set the SP reward to say, 1000 SP per kill for the next event, that would effectively cut down the kills required to reach the cap by half. So, instead of having to make between 1000 to 1500 kills, it would be around 500 to 750 kills. I am open to discussion on this, so let me know your thoughts. We also agree that progression tracking is sorely needed and are negotiating with the development team to up the priority to make this feature.
To be honest one of the biggest problems with these kind of events is That unles you take a pen and paper and literally write down everyone you kill; there is no way to know when you are done. CCP is tracking this hence The tools are already out there to make a small tab in the end of battle with your progression status of the event. For example in the event tab (which only appears if events of this type are active), you can have; taking this event as an example: Kills with heavy weapon and Heavies you've killed
All in all, the grind is made worse because there is a huge uncertainty of just how far along you are in the event. I for example am writing down all the kills I do in a match without including any kill done with any other weapon. But I still dont know how many heavies I killed with my HMG because that would be too much work... Si I have to stick to just trying to hit the fabled 1500 kills in a 2 week period.
Now again this is a grind but it's made worse because we as players don't know how many kills we have. BTW this is around 107 kills per day... Thats 10 matches getting at least 10 kills in most and 11 or 12 in some matches. Many poeple might say this is easy but, we also have to take into consideration that the HMG is a short ranged weapon with a very small window of engagement. As far as things are, camping is not always a solution because you are at the mercy of the enemy actually wanting to come to your point after you kill a couple of them. Which if you are good enough they will stop doing so. Then if you are bored you have to travel to another point wasting even more time or resources while still not giving you the security of actually getting kills since, as a heavy most other weapon types will have killed the enemy before you get into your optimal which already has about 50% decrease in damage via spread (at it's optimal; yes you heard right ^^).
Also did read the points I just thought that adding a post of the same nature would make it double important? TL;DR
- Grind is too much for the weapon type (any other weapon type would have been fine with these numbers but the HMG is a handicap in most situations where your enemy has half a brain to kill you from 20 meters and above)
- No visual way to know where your standing in the event; I.E. summary that tells you how far along you are (kills with HMG/heavies killed)
The event is great, don't get me wrong but it's a bit too much for a weapon that is out DPS'ed at ranges above 14 meters and is couple with a slow suit.
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:42:00 -
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These are my numbers as of today and I am lucky that the College load is little and the wife doesn't mind. I am not the best player and of course I've had 20+ kills at some points before I started writing them down but 20+ kills with an HMG is not a regular thing unless you are using proto all the time and/or are extremely good. I am neither extremely good, nor am I using proto.
All in all the numbers I will show are that of the regular Merc who is neither in a squad with 5 other protostompers, neither a prodigy with an HMG or using proto all the time. This is the average Joe who plays for fun and is sometimes with a buddy or two, other times alone and just trying to grind through this event to get his SP. Papa needs some level 5's. I am using advanced gear with 2 complex damage mod for the added damage to my advanced Burst HMG. I have profi 5 but as I said I am not the best of players.
Key: M=Match T = Total D = Daily total
HERE IS MY CHART
I also Have to say that I have had a lot of time to play; not many people do. Also, this is my second chart on my third day of the even, although the event has had 4 days to it If I am not mistaken.
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XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:29:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:These are my numbers as of today and I am lucky that the College load is little and the wife doesn't mind. I am not the best player and of course I've had 20+ kills at some points before I started writing them down but 20+ kills with an HMG is not a regular thing unless you are using proto all the time and/or are extremely good. I am neither extremely good, nor am I using proto. All in all the numbers I will show are that of the regular Merc who is neither in a squad with 5 other protostompers, neither a prodigy with an HMG or using proto all the time. This is the average Joe who plays for fun and is sometimes with a buddy or two, other times alone and just trying to grind through this event to get his SP. Papa needs some level 5's. I am using advanced gear with 2 complex damage mod for the added damage to my advanced Burst HMG. I have profi 5 but as I said I am not the best of players. Key: M= Match T = Total D = Daily total HERE IS MY CHARTI also Have to say that I have had a lot of time to play; not many people do. Also, this is my second chart on my third day of the event, although the event has had 4 days to it If I am not mistaken. Yeah this is the problem with HMG, you can put up big numbers if the fighting is really intense and close quarters, but that doesn't happen often. This week I had one 39 kill game (with logi support), a couple of other 30-odd kill games, but the majority are below 15. The first game I played with RR+medium for a change I got 41 kills, and it was 20+ every game after that. This is with advanced suit, proto weapon with high proficiency, and M1 grenades - same combination I use with HMG. Basically the HMG is a difficult weapon to run all game, every game because it is so situational. That makes the grind worse than it would be with many weapons.
Thank you for sharing your experience... I don't feel like such a noob now xD
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 14:27:00 -
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Aw man just hit 500 recorded kills today... It a shame that i had about 300 kills before i started writing them down. Illl keep going till i have the 1500 recorded kill just in case the ones i didnt write down are less.
1 third done, two thirds to go.
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1075
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Posted - 2014.03.04 08:35:00 -
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VIDEO!!!!
Hello guys,
I finished the event yesterday officially. After 2 days of winging it, I decided to start taking notes of my kills and recording most of them. I was going to do a montage of my last 500 kills but only managed to get about 400 on footage. After talking with the peeps I was told that a video with my last 500 kills might be a bit too much so I just made a summary of my event. Overall apart from what is written in the score cards I have about 200 to 300 surplus kills.
SCORE CARD: After starting to make the score card it was super sloppy. So I started to make them less sloppy. In all I had to make 3 but, the first and last where only used up till half.
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.03.04 11:53:00 -
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lok rark wrote:nice vid ...again XxGhazbaranxX Is the event over already? Or are there 24 hours left? In this wormhole its March 5 now. It was till the fifth so i guess its over in downtime?
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.03.04 11:59:00 -
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QRT30 wrote:At the end of video it's the most stupid medic I have ever seen Free kills xD... Nothing like killing farmed redberries
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 18:47:00 -
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Hello CCP,
Is there an estimated time when We will be receiving our SP payouts ? I put a lot of hard work and time into. I Even took score of every single one of my kills with a heavy weapon till I got to 1,500 kills. I really do hope it's soon and that it's done right. I really overdid it just in case some weren't measured, which is my fear since the game sometimes mistakes weapon types. In all honesty I have at least 1,800 HMG/forge kills but I dd not count the first two days of HMG/forge kills. Hence the overdone part.
Please give us a post when you give out the SP because I have yet to receive any.
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1079
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Posted - 2014.03.09 07:01:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:We are aiming to run the reward script for Operation Mauler early next week.
OMG thank you very much xD
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1090
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Posted - 2014.03.13 12:00:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Jeremiah Wickels wrote:will active sp boosters count against the 750k pool of points? Boosters will not count against the SP bonus, so you can still earn extra SP with the booster.
So I'm confused. I bought a 7 day active booster just to receive extra SP based on this post. Did I miss something or did I just misunderstand.
BTW glad I finally got the SP; Thanks CCP but am glad to at least have gotten the base SP from the event. I put a lot of hard work into it and now I have 300 proto HMG's to rain death with.
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1090
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:34:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Got 0 HMGs today even though I played a whole ******* lot with the Repulic HMGs during the event.
0/10 :: for not telling us before hand that LP store weapons didn't count for this event.
LP weapons were supposed to count
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:
If the dropsuit can fit a heavy weapon then it counts. If the heavy weapon you are using on the heavy suit is a HMG or a Forge Gun then it counts.
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1091
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:39:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:How about you Ghazbaran, did you get everything?
I got everything but...
XxGhazbaranxX wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Jeremiah Wickels wrote:will active sp boosters count against the 750k pool of points? Boosters will not count against the SP bonus, so you can still earn extra SP with the booster. So I'm confused. I bought a 7 day active booster just to receive extra SP based on this post. Did I miss something or did I just misunderstand. just to clarify: I got the 750k base but did not get any bonus SP from the 7 day booster I specifically bought for the extra SP. I have a picture with my kill card that was started 2 days after the even and I know I have an excess of 200 to 300 extra HMG kills sins my suits did not have side arm nor grenades for the specific purpose. BTW glad I finally got the SP; Thanks CCP but am glad to at least have gotten the base SP from the event. I put a lot of hard work into it and now I have 300 proto HMG's to rain death with. SCORE CARDAll the kills on my score cards are with heavy weapons
So if I dont get the SP from My boosters I won't be mad but will really feel let down... I worked really hard to do the event perfectly xD.
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