I agree : Damagers should be deleted.
These are pointless they makes inbalance.
They makes some weapons better than supposed.
They makes all other modules like "useless" (Low slots or..high slots nah i don't rmember but left lsots ^^')


We should maybe makes "special" damagers ONLY for AV weapons.
And delete the others.

Thats why I want them removed. I know guys with twice the skill of some of these people who triple stack dmg mods but can't compete because they don't have the skill points put into them. They are a disease that need to be removed.

Thats why I want them removed. I know guys with twice the skill of some of these people who triple stack dmg mods but can't compete because they don't have the skill points put into them. They are a disease that need to be removed.

Be honest with your self if range amps were better would you choose them ove dmg mods? No. 30m of range amplification is great for cqc.

Be honest with your self if range amps were better would you choose them ove dmg mods? No. 30m of range amplification is great for cqc.

Let's just get rid of these things, they're a thorn in everyone's side. They prevent us from using other useful modules that our suits are made for.

Example: Gal medium frames with precision enhancements and range amplifiers along with armor plates would make them the ultimate cqc king. But those modules are neglected due to the fact dmg mods are more preferred over anything else when it comes to high slots for those suits.

Example 2: How many cal suit users use regulators or rechargers? None due to fact of us having to deal with those gal and amarr suits with thier triple stacked dmg mods. We are pushed to double stack dmg mods and dual tank just to compete.

So I believe damage mods should be removed and for those of us who want extra dmg we should spec into proficiency for our weapon of choice. With time ttk as high as it is it wouldn't be even noticed.

What is the range you can see someone one your radar while they are scanned with a active scanner having to much rang amplification would be pointless when you can just look in a certain direction a see them. That's why snipers don't use them at all.

What? That's like saying armor mods are redundant for shield tankers.

I'm not trying to make the caldari the master do all race but I'm specced into code breakers and don't use them. I brick tank and use dampeners I'm not a support player I'm a slayer. I agree if range and precision amps were buffed would you agree to remove them?

Is the problem.
Damage mods are just as valid as any HP mod, regen mod etc'.

Damage mod penalties are not severe enough in this game. 3 comp dmg mods plus maxed proficiency gives you close to 40% dmg increase. If that's not ridiculous I don't know what is.

No it gives you exactly 26.4% damage increase from 3 complex damage mods.

Here's a scenario. Let's say there are two players: Player A and Player B. Both players have the same weapon, and we will assume that weapon does 100 DPS for the sake of round numbers. The only difference between the two is that Player A equipped a complex damage mod. and player B equipped a complex shield extender. We will assume they started with a base health of 100 each also for the sake of round numbers. Player A and Player B both open fire on each other at the same time: who dies first?

Player A is doing 110 DPS vs a 173 eHP (66 shield extender + 10% skill bonus) enemy.
Player B is doing 100 DPS vs a 100 eHP enemy.

Player A would kill Player B in 1.572... seconds.
Player B would kill Player A in 1 second.

So basically, damage mods aren't as good as you seem to think they are. There would be an even larger disparity between the two if you consider that each damage mod suffers from stacking penalties, while HP modules do not, and then an even LARGER disparity if I used a complex armor plate as an example instead. Let's say that Player B equipped a complex armor plate instead.

Player A is doing 110 DPS to a 248 eHP (135 plate + 10% skill bonus) enemy
Player B is doing 100 DPS to a 100 eHP enemy

Player A would kill Player B in 2.54... seconds.
Player B would kill Player A in one second.

Look at that! The player with the plate kills the player with the damage mod more than twice as quickly!

If this is how everyone plays this game then ccp needs to remove every module except for shield extenders, armor plates, and damage mods end of story.

Thankyou like I said math means nothing in this game.

CCP can either do three things

-Remove damage mods or nerf them
-Buff Shield Extenders
-Or nerf armor plates

Because the math your putting out is not hard concrete facts its based off of a scenario of what could happen basically an estimation. 41.4% damage increase to a weapon with 3 complex damage mods and proficiency lvl 5 is a fact not the math you're doing.

Its called Allotek nanohives which all you gals use.

CCP can either do three things

-Remove damage mods or nerf them
-Buff Shield Extenders
-Or nerf armor plates

Scouts should always be flanking if you can't kill someone while getting the drop on them then you need to get good. With low hp plus aa scouts should not be going at someone head on. Plus scouts are scouts, they're supposed to use their stealth to relay info to their team behind enemy lines as well place uplinks and ninja hack objectives not be killers. So your point is invalid try again.

Now you see how I feel I don't want to have to stack plates to have enough ehp as you. You chose your suit because you want to armor tank I chose mine because I want to shield tank. Your double or triple damage mod fit is preventing me from getting the max hp out of my shields due to the fact I have to stack damage mods also so I can go toe to toe with you.