by doing this, you are favoring one fighting style over another. not all that balanced.

you can go assault defensively or offensively. there is more than on way to skin a cat.

the current bonuses really dont favor either, and therefore allow players to fight in the style they are most comfortable with.

The problem with a bonus to modules (especially the armor rep and shield rechargers/regulators) is that we have to also look at how many slots are available. If a Gallente has a passive bonus to armor rep module, he'd be a fool not to fill up as much as he is able with armor rep modules.

If we assume the gal assault is not losing slots next build, then at pro to he has 5 slots to work with. If any logi comes by and drops a triage hive at his feet we have no need whatsoever for a sentinel.

The same is true of shields (I remember the reign of Calassault/Callogi in their FOTM glory days. Thanks to poor hit detection they were able to recharge shields as I fired at them).

If we say balance the numbers so that at pro to level these bonuses would not be OP, we would be left with bonuses we could not get until we used pro to gear now.

I agree but the bonuses should be to modules

Amarr: Armor Plate bonus
Caldari: Extender bonus
Minmatar: Recharger bonus
Gallente: Armor Repairer bonus

As stated in Skype, I'm against this for a number of reasons.

Assault suits, as describe, are about versatility and the new bonuses (reduction in PG/CPU to weaponry) go a long way to hallmark on that. IMO, the Assault suit, given it's high slot count and general freedom of fitting, is more applicable to be fit the way the player wants. A jack of all trades.

The problem that I see with regenerative bonuses are on two aspects:

1.) Passive regeneration (shield or armor) built into the suit. This is a problem because it then opens up the fitting for the player to fit more extenders or plates, relying on the passive regeneration which gets compounded when logistics support is involved but is sufficient even without it. Their base durability hallmarks this and given their slot layouts we could very quickly see suits that have very high HP and no drawbacks toward regeneration.

2.) Specific regeneration in the form of a bonus applied to modules. This is a problem because it then forces the player to fit a certain way in order to get the maximum efficiency out of their suit, turning away from versatility. Passing up on this in order to get more buffer negates the bonus entirely.

That being said, this proposal teeters on the fence between too focused and too overbearing. We're moving away from specific bonuses as we can see with the Sentinels and Commandos, both of which hallmarking on a broad spectrum (Sentinels passively resisting damage and Commandos focusing on their racial weaponry). This would also be more of a bonus to shield tankers rather than armor tankers, given armor repairing's propensity for glacial speeds.

Complain as some may, what the Assault suit needs is a broad spectrum bonus and I think that the weaponry bonuses that they received (Minmatar clip size as an example) was the best way to go because it focuses on their racial strengths as well as leaving them open to fit how the player wants. The Gallente Assault bonus is the only misnomer here.

Each race has a specific style, and the suits should emphasize that.

You say it takes away versatility. It does not. If you wish to shield tank, you go Caldari. Armor repair, you go Gallente. Brick tanking, Amarr. Each suit should excel in one area. The versatility comes because there is absolutely nothing stopping you from speccing into any suit you wish. Therefore, a Caldari player can spec into Gallente suits with no penalty, should he want them.

Making every suit versitial hurts them all. They should all have their own individual niche, and players can spec into that niche should they choose.

I am, however, against assaults being about regeneration, because that means logo isn't needed as much beyond resupplying ammo. Assault should be about dealing as much damage in as little time as possible. The long recovery makes logo a necessity.

-10 this would marginalise logis to be heavy humpers.
Assaults have always been jealous of a logis regen,and now because of bonus changes desire to steal it for themselves.
And who would want to be a slow heavy when they could be a godmode assault.
This idea is horrible. IDC if you DO have a beef with logis,they are an essential part of the battlefield.

Unless,assaults are willing to lose all eq slots this would still make logis essential to assaults.
It wouldn't be fair for assaults to go solo,there's a role specifically made for that it's called "commando".

Assault suits, as describe, are about versatility and the new bonuses (reduction in PG/CPU to weaponry) go a long way to hallmark on that. IMO, the Assault suit, given it's high slot count and general freedom of fitting, is more applicable to be fit the way the player wants. A jack of all trades.

1.) Passive regeneration (shield or armor) built into the suit. This is a problem because it then opens up the fitting for the player to fit more extenders or plates, relying on the passive regeneration which gets compounded when logistics support is involved but is sufficient even without it. Their base durability hallmarks this and given their slot layouts we could very quickly see suits that have very high HP and no drawbacks toward regeneration.

2.) Specific regeneration in the form of a bonus applied to modules. This is a problem because it then forces the player to fit a certain way in order to get the maximum efficiency out of their suit, turning away from versatility. Passing up on this in order to get more buffer negates the bonus entirely.

As already explained, that versatility niche is already being taken by the scout.
Assaults need a role, versatility it is not.
And if you go by descriptions, SMG is semi automatic.


Like.. Scouts?
The HP ceiling won't be as high, but as shown on the forums, it's still pretty damn high.


That's like me taking a combat ship and fitting remote armor reps and then crying that it doesn't get bonused.

Scouts are not about versatility, would just like to point that out. Going off of descriptions, going by the word of the CPM - it's all inherently flawed.

And yet they're going to be as versatile if not more than assaults.
A second equipment slot is worth way way more than a module.

That remains to be seen. Why don't we wait for 1.8 before making comments about Scouts.

According to Iron Wolf Saber, the role of the Assault Suit is to constantly push forward, constantly keep the enemy suppressed, just all around make their lives a living hell.
In order to do that, Assault suits need to be regenerative. They just have to be, you can't constantly push forward if you have to stop every 5 seconds for 30 seconds to lick your wounds.

Hence why I'm suggesting Assault suits to have much higher regeneration than even 1.8 scout suits.

For those that don't know, Caldari scouts will have a shield regeneration rate of 50hp/s, while Gallente scouts will have an armor regeneration rate of 3hp/s.
Sentinels will have shields 30hp/s on Caldari, and armor 1hp/s on Gallente.

That leaves Medium frames somewhere inbetween.
However, I think Assault suits should be the exception in the medium frame category, their regeneration should be above that of a scout suit.

Some random numbers I've been thinking about:
Caldari Assault: 70hp/s on shields, 1hp/s on armor
Minmatar: 60hp/s on shields, 2hp/s on armor
Amarr: 50hp/s on shields, 4hp/s on armor
Gallente Assault: 40hp/s on shields, 7hp/s on armor


DISCLAIMBER: These are numbers I pulled out of my arse, I did not do the math, I have no idea what the consequences of these exact numbers would be, don't crucify me over it.