DUST Search - How to run shotguns on the Gallante Assault

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

BL4CKST4R wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

BL4CKST4R wrote:

The Gallente assault bonus is just not good enough for a CQC class.

I respectfully disagree. There is a reason why weapons with small crosshairs tend to be the best in games like Counter Strike, Halo and Call of Duty.

There is a limit to how small that crosshair can be. If I removed your crosshair switched it to a dot then made your gun laser tight would it be good in CQC? No it wouldn't it would suck that's what killed the old HMG. Right now the Gallente weapons have a good balance when it comes to dispersion and that bonus should be used to something more useful. Look at the Amarr and Minmatar bonus they ensure that their guns stay firing while minimizing drawbacks, and buffing strengths respectively. The Gallente bonus does not minimize or buff anything useful about the gun.

Well, I guess I just like it because I played games with laser accurate hipfire. I mean, how hard.is it to keep a dot on a target?

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DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4058	Posted - 2014.02.09 17:58:00 - [1] - Quote Standard Breach Shotgun 2x Complex Damage Mods 2x basic reactive plates 1 Enhanced Armor plate Breach SMG Nanohive You will one shot most suits and two shot near everything. Anyone that lives through two shots will take about two more shots from your Breach SMG, respectfully. I was inspired to make this thread from the atrocious and ignorant class suggestions on this thread, that tried to make the Gallante Assault into a mediocre Scout instead of playing towards damage, armor and repping. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6319	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:06:00 - [2] - Quote So... How do you expect to catch up on enemies, and how do you expect to regenerate at 2hp/s? And how do you expect to not have your face melted trying to flank, because everyone and their mother have a scanner? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4058	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:43:00 - [3] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So... How do you expect to catch up on enemies, and how do you expect to regenerate at 2hp/s? And how do you expect to not have your face melted trying to flank, because everyone and their mother have a scanner? You do not attempt to chase your enemy, you make them come to you. Coarse enemies into close quarters. Use your Breach SMG at long range. It works. As a note, you do not need to be touching the enemy for your shotgun to kill them. The Breach Shotgun is effective till 15 meters, particularly when aiming down sight. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3957	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:56:00 - [4] - Quote Do you play solo or in a squad? I prefer shield tanking because I don't want to depend on a logi. I am your scan error.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4059	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:00:00 - [5] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Do you play solo or in a squad? I prefer shield tanking because I don't want to depend on a logi. Solo. I'm not that bad either. I gave Cyrus Li-Mundy a run for his money when I was running the Plasma Cannon. I sometimes shield tank, usually when I want to flank more. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1097	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:06:00 - [6] - Quote lol Appia Vibbia for CPM1 [email protected] (checked every Monday morning)
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 438	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:14:00 - [7] - Quote If im tricking people into coming to me i think ill just stick to remotes, way more satisfyng.
OZAROW 0uter.Heaven 1375	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:17:00 - [8] - Quote Till 5 people show up with rail rifles SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4060	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:21:00 - [9] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Till 5 people show up with rail rifles Kill two of them with twin blasts, reload and kill the next two. Kill the last one with your Breach SMG. Also, it is rather unreasonable to expect one person to kill five assailants at the same time. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2344	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:41:00 - [10] - Quote G-1 Series (ADV) Dropsuit Enh Cardiac Reg Cpx KinCat M1 nades M209 SMG Basic Shotty All the Sidearm DMG Mods you can fit Whatever Active Scanner you can fit *You almost have to change the way you think, so that you use the SMG as your primary and use the Shotgun as a CQC sidearm for when you actually sneak up on somebody. Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.

BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1878	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:05:00 - [11] - Quote I would run a scrambler rifle with this suit. High alpha damage but at 5x the range. As for the sidearm a magsec would be so much better. High DPS and double the range of the minmatar smg. The shotgun works well but only on a suit that can stealth well and bring the CQC to the enemy rather than bringing it to me. If I see a guy running a round a small corridor with a shotgun I will either empty all my grenades into him or get a position were I can target him from range, or just run away. The last thing I will do is get close to him... Armor and Shields are not the same!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4063	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:49:00 - [12] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: The Gallente assault bonus is just not good enough for a CQC class. I respectfully disagree. There is a reason why weapons with small crosshairs tend to be the best in games like Counter Strike, Halo and Call of Duty. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1878	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:56:00 - [13] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: The Gallente assault bonus is just not good enough for a CQC class. I respectfully disagree. There is a reason why weapons with small crosshairs tend to be the best in games like Counter Strike, Halo and Call of Duty. There is a limit to how small that crosshair can be. If I removed your crosshair switched it to a dot then made your gun laser tight would it be good in CQC? No it wouldn't it would suck that's what killed the old HMG. Right now the Gallente weapons have a good balance when it comes to dispersion and that bonus should be used to something more useful. Look at the Amarr and Minmatar bonus they ensure that their guns stay firing while minimizing drawbacks, and buffing strengths respectively. The Gallente bonus does not minimize or buff anything useful about the gun. Armor and Shields are not the same!
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2185	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:03:00 - [14] - Quote What about for people who suck? ...such as myself...how will we kill with only 2 kamahamahas? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 909	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:07:00 - [15] - Quote As a user of the breach shotty, I can honestly say you have to get lucky and pray that hit detection is on your side. Well, you'll be running a sidearm, so it won't matter much. I don't have enough CPU on my scout to use a sidearm with my breach shotty.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4064	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:19:00 - [16] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: The Gallente assault bonus is just not good enough for a CQC class. I respectfully disagree. There is a reason why weapons with small crosshairs tend to be the best in games like Counter Strike, Halo and Call of Duty. There is a limit to how small that crosshair can be. If I removed your crosshair switched it to a dot then made your gun laser tight would it be good in CQC? No it wouldn't it would suck that's what killed the old HMG. Right now the Gallente weapons have a good balance when it comes to dispersion and that bonus should be used to something more useful. Look at the Amarr and Minmatar bonus they ensure that their guns stay firing while minimizing drawbacks, and buffing strengths respectively. The Gallente bonus does not minimize or buff anything useful about the gun. Well, I guess I just like it because I played games with laser accurate hipfire. I mean, how hard.is it to keep a dot on a target? My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1879	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:21:00 - [17] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: The Gallente assault bonus is just not good enough for a CQC class. I respectfully disagree. There is a reason why weapons with small crosshairs tend to be the best in games like Counter Strike, Halo and Call of Duty. There is a limit to how small that crosshair can be. If I removed your crosshair switched it to a dot then made your gun laser tight would it be good in CQC? No it wouldn't it would suck that's what killed the old HMG. Right now the Gallente weapons have a good balance when it comes to dispersion and that bonus should be used to something more useful. Look at the Amarr and Minmatar bonus they ensure that their guns stay firing while minimizing drawbacks, and buffing strengths respectively. The Gallente bonus does not minimize or buff anything useful about the gun. Well, I guess I just like it because I played games with laser accurate hipfire. I mean, how hard.is it to keep a dot on a target? easy when the target isn't strafing around like a dying rabbit. In COD I keep my guns with as low dispersion as possible in Dust I have to keep it balanced so I can maintain target and get ad many bullets in as they move around and I move around. Armor and Shields are not the same!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4064	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:25:00 - [18] - Quote I guess we will see come 1.8. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 177	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:56:00 - [19] - Quote lol aim down sights, you cant turn at all ads, good luck trying. no point in using a shotgun if you have to try and quickscope with it. they need to make the ads turn speed faster
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 926	Posted - 2014.02.09 22:02:00 - [20] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: lol aim down sights, you cant turn at all ads, good luck trying. no point in using a shotgun if you have to try and quickscope with it. they need to make the ads turn speed faster Err.. YOU can make it faster than your current settings, by adjusting the sensitivity in-game, I would guess. However, making it as fast as hipfire, would be stupid. If you could aim accurately, and turn rapidly at the same time, there would be no point in having separate hipfire vs ADS modes. They exist, because CCP WANTS there to be a penalty for the extra accuracy.

Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 718	Posted - 2014.02.09 22:08:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So... How do you expect to catch up on enemies, and how do you expect to regenerate at 2hp/s? And how do you expect to not have your face melted trying to flank, because everyone and their mother have a scanner? Speed isn't everything when it come to shotgunning, hell, the thing even works on a heavy suit. Not in the open though. But it can murder in buildings. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1240	Posted - 2014.02.09 22:11:00 - [22] - Quote The new bonuses are stupid for Gal Assault. With Sharpshooter 5 and operations 5 you already have a low enough dispersion that it is amost a non-issue. A RoF bonus or a mag size bonus would make much more sense. Heck, even a small damage bonus would make sense. The AR should be the best rifle for CQC and if the gallente are going to have some advantage with that weapon it should play to its strengths (ie RoF and damage). Fun > Realism
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 926	Posted - 2014.02.09 22:21:00 - [23] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: The new bonuses are stupid for Gal Assault. With Sharpshooter 5 and operations 5 you already have a low enough dispersion that it is amost a non-issue. A RoF bonus or a mag size bonus would make much more sense. Heck, even a small damage bonus would make sense. The AR should be the best rifle for CQC and if the gallente are going to have some advantage with that weapon it should play to its strengths (ie RoF and damage). generally good post. However, redundant, in that a RoF boost, is also effectively a damage boost at the same time.


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