DUST Search - Shields position in 1.8 (bad)

Asha Starwind wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Asha Starwind wrote:

You talk as if utilizing cover is something exclusive to shield tankers. How does that shield tanker fair against and armor/rep tanker doing the exact same thing.

Shields have the advantage in a cover fight because of faster regen.

Between volleys, shield tanked suit will be back to almost full health, while armour will be slowly worn down as the fight drags out. Relying on cover is NOT in the armour tanker's best interests.

And if they move further out of cover to get a shot, then need to try and take cover again, they have to spend longer in the open being shot than a shield tanker would because of the speed penalties on armour.

That's an idealistic scenario, which is completely removed from the reality of things, considering hives, rep tools, the shield/armor hp disparity (could afford to lose a bit of hp before it becomes problematic), flux, weapons that vaporize/laugh at shields. Throw any one of those things into that scenario and it's an uphill battle for the shield suit.

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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8971	Posted - 2014.02.09 04:11:00 - [1] - Quote CCP is working on increasing TTK, so shields should be in a better position in 1.8. If there are issues with shields, it should be addressed through the stats of the modules themselves, not through dropsuit bonuses that only apply to one dropsuit type anyway. Regulators need to be buffed, so buff regulators. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8976	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:10:00 - [2] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: You talk as if utilizing cover is something exclusive to shield tankers. How does that shield tanker fair against and armor/rep tanker doing the exact same thing. Shields have the advantage in a cover fight because of faster regen. Between volleys, shield tanked suit will be back to almost full health, while armour will be slowly worn down as the fight drags out. Relying on cover is NOT in the armour tanker's best interests. And if they move further out of cover to get a shot, then need to try and take cover again, they have to spend longer in the open being shot than a shield tanker would because of the speed penalties on armour. That's an idealistic scenario, which is completely removed from the reality of things, considering hives, rep tools, the shield/armor hp disparity (could afford to lose a bit of hp before it becomes problematic), flux, weapons that vaporize/laugh at shields. Throw any one of those things into that scenario and it's an uphill battle for the shield suit. The rep tools require that the shield tanker be fighting 2 enemies instead of 1 since you can't use repair tool on yourself; even without rep tool, 2 against 1 already means the shield tanker is disadvantaged anyway, much like 2 enemies vs 1 armor tanker puts the armor tanker in a disadvantage. Locus grenades destroy armor (or just kill you completely). There are plenty of weapons that destroy armor: MD, RR, CR Shield users are not the only ones who can be negatively impacted by other factors. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+