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Seigfried Warheit wrote:

List of Ideas :

1. - 7% spool time reduction

2. +5% to effective range of rail weapons while ADSing

3. +5% to shield recharge modules

4. -5% to ADS Disruption and Kick

5. - 10% to spool up/lock on time per level. Lock on time is for the swarm launcher

6. - 5% reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level w/ +?% to ammo reserve

7 . - 5% reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level w/ 3% Shield module efficacy or recharge

8. +?% to effective range but RR needs effective range reduced to compensate

9. Nerf the damage on the RR but give it the same damage before nerf for the Assault through +?% to damage

10. Rail tech and missile spool time and lock on time reduction percentage per level. This would be pretty legit and actually address the only weapon drawback (rail tech spool time) that doesn't currently have an SP sink to offset it.

I think they can increase the spool time on RRs fairly significantly as along as there is an SP based offset to get it down to perhaps as low as .15sec for the MagSec and .2sec for the RR. For folks beefing about the trigger tap method of cutting the spool time - fix it so when you balk the trigger it has a serious recharge penalty like the rail turrets have now.

11. -10% decreased dispersion and recoil while ADS per level. Note : That pretty much dials right in not long range striking power playstyle and gives minimal advantages in dynamic gunfights, I.e. CQC.

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Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 186	Posted - 2014.02.09 01:29:00 - [1] - Quote Currently the reload reduction bonus is rather lacking for a long ranged assault role. There is already a skill for reload speed if the reload speed is being tampered with next patch then we can skill into that to reduce the time. Sure it can save me some sp but I really think the reload reduction isn't the bonus for us.( Haven't seen one person like this bonus yet) Point of this thread is to come up with ideas of what kind of bonus to give to the Caldari Assault. Not sure if many Cal Assaults agree but I would like a bonus that makes Caldari tech more effective in our hands compared to a non-Caldari user just like the other racial assault bonuses. Sure it works good but to use it to its best potential you have to use the racial suit for the weapon. That just my 2 cents but I believe the bonus should be weapon related since it is a Assault suit but feel free to throw in any suit bonus suggestions. Ill make a list of all the suggestion in the thread here and maybe we can reach even ground and pick one bonus will suit the Caldari Assault and hopefully push for it enough to get CCP's attention so they might consider it. So let it rip! List of Ideas : - 7% spool time reduction - 5% to effective range of rail weapons while ADSing - 5% to shield recharge modules - 5% to ADS Disruption and Kick
Oswald Rehnquist 1227	Posted - 2014.02.09 01:32:00 - [2] - Quote I like this thread because its a suggestion thread, and not a whinning thread Suggestions 5% to effective range of rail weapons while ADSing 5% to shield recharge modules 5% to ADS Disruption and Kick Below 28 dB
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2274	Posted - 2014.02.09 01:42:00 - [3] - Quote Recharge and ADS recoil would be the two I'd think about ADS would help Snipers and RR users both. Listen I'll change the song every week
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 484	Posted - 2014.02.09 01:45:00 - [4] - Quote 10% to spool up/lock on time per level. Lock on time is for the swarm launcher Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3131	Posted - 2014.02.09 01:50:00 - [5] - Quote I like the 5% boost to effective range while ADSing. The spool time reduction could make the weapon OP. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Ekrano Fergus Molon Labe. 23	Posted - 2014.02.09 01:51:00 - [6] - Quote Range would be nice, although it probably doesn't matter if you have it for hipfire or not because after a certain point hipfiring is just wasting bullets. Once you get used to the spool it doesn't really become that noticable. Caldari tend to go max shields and leave quick regen to the minmitar. Dispersion and kick would be nice. /)_/) ( . .) C(") (")
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 58	Posted - 2014.02.09 02:05:00 - [7] - Quote 5000% shield extender efficiacy per level
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8965	Posted - 2014.02.09 02:10:00 - [8] - Quote I would prefer if they stayed with offensive bonuses instead of defensive bonuses, since that is what assaults are about. Bundle the reload bonus with (kind of like how Minmatar scout is getting hacking speed and knife damage bundled in one bonus) it with an ammo reserves bonus, and a kick reduction bonus to make it more useful. I guess I would also be fine with the reload bonus being bundled with a 3% shield module efficacy or recharge bonus, as long as they also keep a weapon related bonus for hybrid-railgun weapons. Effective range bonus, but give rail weapons an effective range reduction to compensate. pew pew pew Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Oswald Rehnquist 1229	Posted - 2014.02.09 02:16:00 - [9] - Quote 5% per level to effective range is something I can agree upon Below 28 dB
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 187	Posted - 2014.02.09 02:38:00 - [10] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I like this thread because its a suggestion thread, and not a whinning thread Suggestions 5% to effective range of rail weapons while ADSing 5% to shield recharge modules 5% to ADS Disruption and Kick Mind if I add to hybrid rail gun light/sidearm weaponry to your suggestion?

Squagga The State Protectorate 188	Posted - 2014.02.09 02:47:00 - [11] - Quote I know everybody is gonna hate this but here goes. Since the scrambler rifle, which is pretty powerful, gets an overheat and jams, to make it so that you can't get all that damage out at one time. I've skilled into this rifle and it kills me! Literally in battle. But the Amarr get a bonus to the overheat so it doesn't kill them as quickly.They get to use more of the rifles damage. So what I actually propose is that they nerf the RR ( I call her Rosie) and give us Cal assaults what the damage is now. Seems pretty fair to me Reloading, the silent killer.
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 188	Posted - 2014.02.09 03:07:00 - [12] - Quote Squagga wrote: I know everybody is gonna hate this but here goes. Since the scrambler rifle, which is pretty powerful, gets an overheat and jams, to make it so that you can't get all that damage out at one time. I've skilled into this rifle and it kills me! Literally in battle. But the Amarr get a bonus to the overheat so it doesn't kill them as quickly.They get to use more of the rifles damage. So what I actually propose is that they nerf the RR ( I call her Rosie) and give us Cal assaults what the damage is now. Seems pretty fair to me Did I get your idea right?
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 736	Posted - 2014.02.09 03:07:00 - [13] - Quote Excellent thread. +1 Recommendations as follows (some noted previously) and in order of preference: 1) Rail tech and missile spool time and lock on time reduction percentage per level. This would be pretty legit and actually address the only weapon drawback (rail tech spool time) that doesn't currently have an SP sink to offset it. This is my number one idea and as a dedicated rail user pretty keen on. I actually think they can increase the spool time on RRs fairly significantly as along as there is an SP based offset to get it down to perhaps as low as .15sec for the MagSec and .2sec for the RR. For folks beefing about the trigger tap method of cutting the spool time - fix it so when you balk the trigger it has a serious recharge penalty like the rail turrets have now. 2) significantly decreased dispersion and recoil while ADS....say 10% per level. That pretty much dials right in not long range striking power playstyle and gives minimal advantages in dynamic gunfights, I.e. CQC. 3) 10% per level to CalAssault dropsuits shield recharge and regulation. I don't like any perks dependent on a module and would prefer the bonus applied directly to the suit instead. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1888	Posted - 2014.02.09 03:07:00 - [14] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I like this thread because its a suggestion thread, and not a whinning thread Suggestions 5% to effective range of rail weapons while ADSing 5% to shield recharge modules 5% to ADS Disruption and Kick i like these Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1906	Posted - 2014.02.09 03:11:00 - [15] - Quote derpina Charlotte O'Dell is a liar, that's only a piece of corn & I'm the one and only majestic unicorn.
Squagga The State Protectorate 188	Posted - 2014.02.09 03:14:00 - [16] - Quote OK so it sounds like you guys are pretty set on those three thing. They're not bad I'll admit and I don't know how much the RR is gonna get nerf'd. But if the SCR is going to stay at it's current value in the hands of Amarr Assault those values won't add up to much Reloading, the silent killer.
Squagga The State Protectorate 188	Posted - 2014.02.09 03:16:00 - [17] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: Squagga wrote: I know everybody is gonna hate this but here goes. Since the scrambler rifle, which is pretty powerful, gets an overheat and jams, to make it so that you can't get all that damage out at one time. I've skilled into this rifle and it kills me! Literally in battle. But the Amarr get a bonus to the overheat so it doesn't kill them as quickly.They get to use more of the rifles damage. So what I actually propose is that they nerf the RR ( I call her Rosie) and give us Cal assaults what the damage is now. Seems pretty fair to me Did I get your idea right? Yes. I just think that asking for one or two things is more likely. Gun damage and shields. It's in our very nature Reloading, the silent killer.
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 462	Posted - 2014.02.09 04:11:00 - [18] - Quote The trouble with finding Caldari Assault bonuses is that the Rail Rifle is so godly already you're really only interested in shield bonuses. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 433	Posted - 2014.02.09 04:19:00 - [19] - Quote caldari assult needs a bonus to shield regulaters, Caldari have always been more about tank than gank.
straya fox Sad Panda Solutions 195	Posted - 2014.02.09 04:25:00 - [20] - Quote I like 2% ROF bonus per lvl for rail and hybrid, shield extender bonus is nice to.

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1964	Posted - 2014.02.09 04:37:00 - [21] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Recharge and ADS recoil would be the two I'd think about ADS would help Snipers and RR users both. At least in the hands of the PS Move, those changes would make sniper riffles quite godly. I approve. I Am The Danger*
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 193	Posted - 2014.02.09 07:07:00 - [22] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Excellent thread. +1 Recommendations as follows (some noted previously) and in order of preference: 1) Rail tech and missile spool time and lock on time reduction percentage per level. This would be pretty legit and actually address the only weapon drawback (rail tech spool time) that doesn't currently have an SP sink to offset it. This is my number one idea and as a dedicated rail user pretty keen on. I actually think they can increase the spool time on RRs fairly significantly as along as there is an SP based offset to get it down to perhaps as low as .15sec for the MagSec and .2sec for the RR. For folks beefing about the trigger tap method of cutting the spool time - fix it so when you balk the trigger it has a serious recharge penalty like the rail turrets have now. 2) significantly decreased dispersion and recoil while ADS....say 10% per level. That pretty much dials right in not long range striking power playstyle and gives minimal advantages in dynamic gunfights, I.e. CQC. 3) 10% per level to CalAssault dropsuits shield recharge and regulation. I don't like any perks dependent on a module and would prefer the bonus applied directly to the suit instead. I didn't know how to shorten that lol. I didn't know the mag sec was gonna have spool time interesting.
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 473	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:34:00 - [23] - Quote 4. Anybody who disagrees is H i t l e r's best friend. All the other ones are imbalanced as **. AR Dmg: 34, RoF: 750 RPM, DPS: 425, RR Dmg: 55, RoF: 461 RPM, DPS: 422**, + double the range. Balanced.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1190	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:38:00 - [24] - Quote Range bonus please. Caldari should be the range BEAST. Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 186	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:33:00 - [25] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: 3) 10% per level to CalAssault dropsuits shield recharge and regulation. I don't like any perks dependent on a module and would prefer the bonus applied directly to the suit instead. I like this one, but its too strong. 5% reduction per level to recharge and depleted recharge delay. What's not to love about the scrambler rifle, the thing is a precision weapon and at the same time a shotgun.
Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 5	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:59:00 - [26] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: List of Ideas : 1. - 7% spool time reduction 2. +5% to effective range of rail weapons while ADSing 3. +5% to shield recharge modules 4. -5% to ADS Disruption and Kick 5. - 10% to spool up/lock on time per level. Lock on time is for the swarm launcher 6. - 5% reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level w/ +?% to ammo reserve 7 . - 5% reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level w/ 3% Shield module efficacy or recharge 8. +?% to effective range but RR needs effective range reduced to compensate 9. Nerf the damage on the RR but give it the same damage before nerf for the Assault through +?% to damage 10. Rail tech and missile spool time and lock on time reduction percentage per level. This would be pretty legit and actually address the only weapon drawback (rail tech spool time) that doesn't currently have an SP sink to offset it. I think they can increase the spool time on RRs fairly significantly as along as there is an SP based offset to get it down to perhaps as low as .15sec for the MagSec and .2sec for the RR. For folks beefing about the trigger tap method of cutting the spool time - fix it so when you balk the trigger it has a serious recharge penalty like the rail turrets have now. 11. -10% decreased dispersion and recoil while ADS per level. Note : That pretty much dials right in not long range striking power playstyle and gives minimal advantages in dynamic gunfights, I.e. CQC. i could get behind most of these, but i would say 3(recharge and regulators), 4(make gallente bonus only affect hipfire and give them reload bonus on top?) and 5(maybe 7% instead?) would be the most useful. maybe combine 3 and 4(other races get 2 bonuses from race
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 899	Posted - 2014.02.09 11:12:00 - [27] - Quote Agree with others and always thought it should be a range or accuracy bonus, i'd say range so it helps the SR & SL. But accuracy(recoil/hipfire reduction[hipfire will probably be nerfed too]) would still be appreciated. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
Cavani1EE7 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2014.02.09 11:18:00 - [28] - Quote Just buff the AR... 1337
Ekrano Fergus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 29	Posted - 2014.02.09 11:19:00 - [29] - Quote More range would be nice, especially if they applied it to the swarm launchers lock on range as well. But if they do give the caldari a shield bonus it should be for more HP, not faster regen. /)_/) ( . .) C(") (")
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 12	Posted - 2014.02.09 11:32:00 - [30] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I would prefer if they stayed with offensive bonuses instead of defensive bonuses, since that is what assaults are about. Bundle the reload bonus with (kind of like how Minmatar scout is getting hacking speed and knife damage bundled in one bonus) it with an ammo reserves bonus, and a kick reduction bonus to make it more useful. I guess I would also be fine with the reload bonus being bundled with a 3% shield module efficacy or recharge bonus, as long as they also keep a weapon related bonus for hybrid-railgun weapons. Effective range bonus, but give rail weapons an effective range reduction to compensate. pew pew pew NO Stop trying to give us a crappy reload/ammo reserve bonus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any bonus with either of them included is an instant NO There are already Reload and ammo reserve skills in the weapon trees if we want to skill into them and tbh they are afterthought skills when you have sp spare with nothing really to skill into. If we get a bonus with either of those as the focal point then personally I wont be skilling back into Cal Assault as it will be extremely UP compared to the other Assault Suits A ROF/Spool Up time reduction bonus would buff ALL Caldari Weaponry from Swarms to Sniper Rifles and the bonuses you keep proposing seem to only focus on the soon to be overnerfed RR ... Range bonus doesn't help Sniper Rifles Kick and Dispersion reduction doesn't help Swarm Launchers OR Sniper Rifles Spool up time reduction alone would only benefit the Charge Sniper Rifle and the RR and not SL or any of the other sniper rifles Seriously The only weapon related bonus that would be beneficial to all Caldari Tech is the ROF/Spool up time reduction combo You see this is the problem with the Caldari and Gallente Bonuses unlike the Amarr and Mini bonuses which affect all the weapons the Caldari and Gallente keep having bonuses that only apply to a certain group of weaponry and is why you;ll keep getting blocked from any of your ideas being accepted If only a bonus that affects weaponry is allowed then there is no other option than to give the ROF/Spool up time bonus as it is the only one that would be beneficial to all Caldari Weaponry



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