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Ander Thedas
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:11:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1815644#post1815644
CCP Logibro wrote:Well, that's not the only thing the Mass Driver is getting in 1.8
Increased base direct/splash damage from 242/116 to 300/145
I'm all for increased battlefield variety. Good news! |
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1876
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:14:00 -
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WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO *Dusts of Mass Driver* Watch out ******* Im back
Tanks 514
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
2796
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:31:00 -
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I wonder if the Flaylock is getting any love.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:34:00 -
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I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered. |
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Cyrius Li-Moody
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:37:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered.
This will bring the MD closer to the rifles in terms of TTK and effectiveness. Which will make overall TTK easier to balance. I think it's a good step. It'll bring a weapon that is now never used back onto the field.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
2900
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:42:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:KA24DERT wrote:I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered. This will bring the MD closer to the rifles in terms of TTK and effectiveness. Which will make overall TTK easier to balance. I think it's a good step. It'll bring a weapon that is now never used back onto the field.
The rifles are getting nerfed, don't forget.
This is exactly what happened to vehicles and AV. One was dominant over the other, so CCP nerfed one and buffed the other. NOW look at AV/vehicle balance, a complete mess. Same mistakes, and people are still praising those mistakes.
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
688
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:43:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered.
Rifle TTK was the problem and many suits are getting resistances to the MD in 1.8. Even with this damage buff those suits will still have an advantage against the weapon.
It's not like the MD was doing anything to stack proto suits right now, I don't think this buff is excessive. |
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:46:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:KA24DERT wrote:I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered. This will bring the MD closer to the rifles in terms of TTK and effectiveness. Which will make overall TTK easier to balance. I think it's a good step. It'll bring a weapon that is now never used back onto the field. The rifles are getting nerfed, don't forget. This is exactly what happened to vehicles and AV. One was dominant over the other, so CCP nerfed one and buffed the other. NOW look at AV/vehicle balance, a complete mess. Same mistakes, and people are still praising those mistakes.
It's been proven time and time again the people on these forum don't care when it's their toy that's OP.
32db Mad Bomber.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:46:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:KA24DERT wrote:I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered. This will bring the MD closer to the rifles in terms of TTK and effectiveness. Which will make overall TTK easier to balance. I think it's a good step. It'll bring a weapon that is now never used back onto the field. The rifles are getting nerfed, don't forget. This is exactly what happened to vehicles and AV. One was dominant over the other, so CCP nerfed one and buffed the other. NOW look at AV/vehicle balance, a complete mess. Same mistakes, and people are still praising those mistakes.
Let's see how rifles are getting rebalanced before we all freak out.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:47:00 -
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I really think that CCP shouldhold off on Buffing the Mass Driver until they see what happens with the rifle nerfs.
I just don't get why CCP can't just eitherbuff one thing or nerf one thing and then iterate on that. CCP hotfixed the HMG and that has gone over quite well, so why not just put forth one balancing effort (nerf rifles) and then hot-fix it from there?
While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1348
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:53:00 -
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I wouldn't be surprised if the matari commando made the mass driver op.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:55:00 -
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I was FOTM before it was FOTM I am HOTM (+10 Warpoints if you can decipher HOTM)
I didn't even ask for a buff like this
But hey, when in Rome
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bamaboy27z
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:00:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:I was FOTM before it was FOTM I am HOTM (+10 Warpoints if you can decipher HOTM)
I didn't even ask for a buff like this
But hey, when in Rome
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axis alpha
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:00:00 -
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Well good for me I have proto MD
The best part of waking up,
is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
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Kaughst
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:05:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered.
I feel the same way...still...I have some faith that CCP knows what they are doing.
"That is not how you say my name."
"How do you say your name?"
"I don't know but that is not how you say it."
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:05:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:KA24DERT wrote:I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered. This will bring the MD closer to the rifles in terms of TTK and effectiveness. Which will make overall TTK easier to balance. I think it's a good step. It'll bring a weapon that is now never used back onto the field. The rifles are getting nerfed, don't forget. This is exactly what happened to vehicles and AV. One was dominant over the other, so CCP nerfed one and buffed the other. NOW look at AV/vehicle balance, a complete mess. Same mistakes, and people are still praising those mistakes. Let's see how rifles are getting rebalanced before we all freak out.
People said the same thing just before 1.7. Just keep pretending it's ok.
Also, we already know that the rifles are getting a straight damage nerf. Too lazy to link, but a dev already confirmed it.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:10:00 -
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I know they're getting a damage reduction but until there's numbers shown there's not much that can be speculated about.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:12:00 -
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That was so off beat I think a little urine leaked out Hipster of the Month "I was using the mass driver waaaay before it was cool"
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Rugudorull Apophicyria
Be Just or Be Dead
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:16:00 -
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Michael Bay would be proud. ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) |
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:33:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:That was so off beat I think a little urine leaked out Hipster of the Month "I was using the mass driver waaaay before it was cool"
I used in 1.0 when 5 shots from a scrambler pistol and a melee was more effective than an entire supply of MD rounds.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:37:00 -
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This is a good buff but this + minmatar assault = op
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
901
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:53:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I wonder if the Flaylock is getting any love. LOL |
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.09 00:08:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:KA24DERT wrote:I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered. I feel the same way...still...I have some faith that CCP knows what they are doing.
ROTFLMFAO!
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.09 00:13:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:KA24DERT wrote:I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered. This will bring the MD closer to the rifles in terms of TTK and effectiveness. Which will make overall TTK easier to balance. I think it's a good step. It'll bring a weapon that is now never used back onto the field. The rifles are getting nerfed, don't forget. This is exactly what happened to vehicles and AV. One was dominant over the other, so CCP nerfed one and buffed the other. NOW look at AV/vehicle balance, a complete mess. Same mistakes, and people are still praising those mistakes. It's been proven time and time again the people on these forum don't care when it's their toy that's OP. Yup. It's why the ScR will be the only rifle that is never touched.
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2014.02.09 00:24:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:I do appreciate the buff, but do we really need TTK to be any lower?
I feel the Mass Driver damage is pretty good where it is, but that the rifles are just overpowered.
I agree. I ended up skilling into it about a month or two ago just because I wanted another minmatar weapon. I was always curious about it but didn't want to add to the spam back in the day. In the right situations it can be extremely effective and I can still clean up people CQ. Maybe with the RR nerf more people will go back to ARs and engagements won't be at the 80-100m mark. Then people will have a chance to see the MD is still functional ATM. |
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