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TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 458	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:33:00 - [1] - Quote Go away no one wants you here! Why should I be restricted to using two weapons? Because I'm OP with everything else? Guess what you just need to adapt, fit a militia scout with a militia shotgun and kill the light weapon wielding heavy. Problem equals solved. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution 1867	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:44:00 - [2] - Quote Unless (Dramatic music) He turns around 0_o New born sAMARRi
IR Scifi Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 108	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:44:00 - [3] - Quote As someone on the receiving end of the worn out "Logi's should only be using sidearms" debate I'm with ya buddy. It's another pointless argument because it's not addressing the real issue of weapons being off balance.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4017	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:48:00 - [4] - Quote Here Here! I oppose the forsaken, fiendish rapscallions. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
HYENAKILLER X KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 559	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:51:00 - [5] - Quote Sir, why would you go heavy if not to use heavy weapons? You are welcome for my leadership. Proven Aggressive Type I have spoken.
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 458	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:54:00 - [6] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Sir, why would you go heavy if not to use heavy weapons? Because using a HMG or forge gun gets boring. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6237	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:57:00 - [7] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Sir, why would you go heavy if not to use heavy weapons? To have 2k eHP? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 520	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:58:00 - [8] - Quote Only time I run into them is when they jump out of tank I am destroying with my PLC and gun me down. The only flaw I see in it is that their weapon slot is designated as H. If heavies were supposed to sit behind the readline and snipe there slot would be H/L. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 713	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:59:00 - [9] - Quote If there were more Heavy Weapons, this wouldn't be as rampant a problem. It would still happen, but not as much. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2323	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:06:00 - [10] - Quote I don't want to go against the grain and make sense here, but if Heavies can't use Light Weapons then Scouts can't equip 2 Sidearms. (2x M-209 SMGs is pretty badass, if you haven't done it) Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 892	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:08:00 - [11] - Quote its another example of the retardedness of the forums hell if youre using a light weapon heavy im relieved cus that to me means youre a free kill, **** up close cus youre large slow hitbox means full DPS, and **** from afar cus youre immobile and have crap regen. but if you got a hmg aint no way im going close to you unless youre shields are gone or im behind you or im not alone. seriously the heavy suit isnt currently as good as mediums when its light weapons. in 1.8 with nerfed equipment, specifically scanners, and the TTK reduction, that'll probably change though. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 713	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:08:00 - [12] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I don't want to go against the grain and make sense here, but if Heavies can't use Light Weapons then Scouts can't equip 2 Sidearms. (2x M-209 SMGs is pretty badass, if you haven't done it) Or SMG's and Nova Knives, like my friend runs. 14 Kills and 2 Deaths. On his FIRST time trying them. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3121	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:09:00 - [13] - Quote lol sorry brudda, if they are nerfing my RR...they gotta nerf your heavy with light weapons. Nothing personal, just business. It's funny that the reputation of New Eden in EVE does not transition into Dust 514. In space, it's brutal. On ground, a bunch of cream puffs crying. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 713	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:11:00 - [14] - Quote I got killed my first day in EVE. I didn't cry, though I tried to figure out why the guy killed me. Here, I die everyday. And kill everyday. And I'm telling you, most of the time, it's because I see Red and run TOWARDS it. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 47	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:13:00 - [15] - Quote change is coming even if most dont like it . commando is a heavy suit design to support light weapons . goooooo commando
SickJ D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 129	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:21:00 - [16] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Sir, why would you go heavy if not to use heavy weapons? Every squad needs a bullet sponge. Blue/Green = Good \| Red = Bad \| Yellow = Mine
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 520	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:25:00 - [17] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: I got killed my first day in EVE. I didn't cry, though I tried to figure out why the guy killed me. Here, I die everyday. And kill everyday. And I'm telling you, most of the time, it's because I see Red and run TOWARDS it. I died my first day in EVE as well but because I attacked someone in highsec. On foot I die the most in dust because I run toward tanks PLC in hand. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Sgt Buttscratch 1475	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:27:00 - [18] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Sir, why would you go heavy if not to use heavy weapons? Due to very poor gungame the high EHP cushions them, while the AA takes care of the rest. In the gaming world this is referred to as a crutch. The 2 weapons issue is not good, and CCP should have addressed this long before we saw rail rifles and wombat rifles. Allowing all heavies to run light weapons removes diversity and removes any point to having commandos. I also thing turning speed of heavies fits should be slower than that of the scout. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3122	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:30:00 - [19] - Quote VALCORE72 wrote: change is coming even if most dont like it . commando is a heavy suit design to support light weapons . goooooo commando lol just you wait sir...just you wait. You won't be singing the same tune after a while Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 54	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:33:00 - [20] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Sir, why would you go heavy if not to use heavy weapons? Have you ever heard the word diversity? Plus, why does it matter? Some of our soldiers in present time wear Heavy Armor & use Light Weapons. Reason? It's just their preference. Same thing applies to Dust, you shape your character to be everything to have an edge on the Battlefield, i don't why people treat this as a foreign concept... Join my Corp HERE
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 461	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:36:00 - [21] - Quote Sorry to inform you guys but dust is a game about customization, and is trying to diverge from the traditional FPS. So unless CCP wants to take two steps they will not limit suits to use only one type of weapon, like every other FPS. Also by some of your logic why can you equip sidearms on light weapon slots? It's not a L/S slot so you should only be able to use light weapons in that slot. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Sgt Buttscratch 1475	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:36:00 - [22] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Sir, why would you go heavy if not to use heavy weapons? Have you ever heard the word diversity? Plus, why does it matter? Some of our soldiers in present time wear Heavy Armor & use Light Weapons. Reason? It's just their preference. Same thing applies to Dust, you shape your character to be everything to have an edge on the Battlefield, i don't why people treat this as a foreign concept... Everyone using 1 of 4 weapons is not diversity....... Heavies with RR/CR/BR/SCR Commando with RR/CR/BR/SCR Assualt with RR/CR/BR/SCR Logistics with RR/CR/BR/SCR Scouts with RR/CR/BR/SCR Not diverse. Nice try though, I love when people try that ****. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Ryme Intrinseca 614	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:40:00 - [23] - Quote The real solution to this problem is to decrease heavy HP to 1.5/1.6 levels and buff the HMG even further than the recent RoF increase. That way, no one would want to use a light weapon on a heavy.
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 54	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:43:00 - [24] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Sir, why would you go heavy if not to use heavy weapons? Have you ever heard the word diversity? Plus, why does it matter? Some of our soldiers in present time wear Heavy Armor & use Light Weapons. Reason? It's just their preference. Same thing applies to Dust, you shape your character to be everything to have an edge on the Battlefield, i don't why people treat this as a foreign concept... Everyone using 1 of 4 weapons is not diversity....... Heavies with RR/CR/BR/SCR Commando with RR/CR/BR/SCR Assualt with RR/CR/BR/SCR Logistics with RR/CR/BR/SCR Scouts with RR/CR/BR/SCR Not diverse. Nice try though, I love when people try that ****. I don't expect you to understand but, if people want to play as a Heavy with L Weapons then that's their preference, plus you may think it makes the Heavies OP, but their not really if you can exploit their weaknesses. Join my Corp HERE
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3122	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:44:00 - [25] - Quote TunRa wrote: Sorry to inform you guys but dust is a game about customization, and is trying to diverge from the traditional FPS. So unless CCP wants to take two steps they will not limit suits to use only one type of weapon, like every other FPS. Also by some of your logic why can you equip sidearms on light weapon slots? It's not a L/S slot so you should only be able to use light weapons in that slot. My friend, Dust is about catering to the newer players who can't shoot a lizard in a mop bucket and die quicker than a black man in a horror film. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Sgt Buttscratch 1476	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:57:00 - [26] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Sir, why would you go heavy if not to use heavy weapons? Have you ever heard the word diversity? Plus, why does it matter? Some of our soldiers in present time wear Heavy Armor & use Light Weapons. Reason? It's just their preference. Same thing applies to Dust, you shape your character to be everything to have an edge on the Battlefield, i don't why people treat this as a foreign concept... Everyone using 1 of 4 weapons is not diversity....... Heavies with RR/CR/BR/SCR Commando with RR/CR/BR/SCR Assualt with RR/CR/BR/SCR Logistics with RR/CR/BR/SCR Scouts with RR/CR/BR/SCR Not diverse. Nice try though, I love when people try that ****. I don't expect you to understand but, if people want to play as a Heavy with L Weapons then that's their preference, plus you may think it makes the Heavies OP, but their not really if you can exploit their weaknesses. Preference does not equate to diversity, I am all for letting players play as they like, I can also fight against heavies with L weapons. Does not change the fact that its a crutch move by flakey players. It is also something that highlights the issues with roles in this game, when roles have no meaning, tactics are needless, one big sausage fight or no different to any other shooter. Dust514 was supposed to be a intense tactical shooter... It's not intense, and its not tactical. Its Meta game is flawed by simplifying roles/factions and even bloodlines. The heavy with L weapons should be partof the game, but should not be the flagstone of poor design choice, lack of content and crutch players. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Saxbrin Shain Ivory Vanguard 195	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:25:00 - [27] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Allowing all heavies to run light weapons removes diversity [GÇª] It looks like you don't understand the meaning of "diversity". I encourage you to look it up, because giving Heavies more than two weapon choices only increases diversity. Sentinel suits are designed to amplify the wearer's strength to allow them to carry Heavy weapons. It makes sense that something strong enough to hold a Forge Gun would have no problems wielding a Rail Rifle GÇö whether you like it or not. If you have problems with the Rail Rifle, or any other weapon, propose changes to the weapons themselves. Taking rifles away from Sentinels won't make rifles any less FOTM.
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 170	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:30:00 - [28] - Quote TunRa wrote: Go away no one wants you here! Why should I be restricted to using two weapons? Because I'm OP with everything else? Guess what you just need to adapt, fit a militia scout with a militia shotgun and kill the light weapon wielding heavy. Problem equals solved. Dear CRYBABY, Tho ONLY reason you can use LIGHT WEAPONS now is because of your 2 guns... however, when u have 8 (16 counting side) youre losing your LIGHT WEAPONS ... "ADAPT"... use the Commando for your LIGHT WEAPONS ... it'll be a good suit by then... (theoreticly) Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game. as of 1920 CST USA 02-03-14 i have... 53,765,260 SP
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 170	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:33:00 - [29] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: TunRa wrote: Sorry to inform you guys but dust is a game about customization, and is trying to diverge from the traditional FPS. So unless CCP wants to take two steps they will not limit suits to use only one type of weapon, like every other FPS. Also by some of your logic why can you equip sidearms on light weapon slots? It's not a L/S slot so you should only be able to use light weapons in that slot. My friend, Dust is about catering to the newer players who can't shoot a lizard in a mop bucket and die quicker than a black man in a horror film. this statement put u into the "idiocy" category Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game. as of 1920 CST USA 02-03-14 i have... 53,765,260 SP
TechMechMeds Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2609	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:39:00 - [30] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Sir, why would you go heavy if not to use heavy weapons? Due to very poor gungame the high EHP cushions them, while the AA takes care of the rest. In the gaming world this is referred to as a crutch. The 2 weapons issue is not good, and CCP should have addressed this long before we saw rail rifles and wombat rifles. Allowing all heavies to run light weapons removes diversity and removes any point to having commandos. I also thing turning speed of heavies fits should be slower than that of the scout. I use a sentinel fit with the assault RR for pure lazy mode. Level 2 forum warrior. Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 664	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:43:00 - [31] - Quote I am thinking sentinels might be OP come 1.8 , but then I remembered that CCP is trying to make the logibro extinct sooooo.... go ahead and use light weapons sentinels but good luck when you run out of ammo because the tankers blew up all the supply depots and the logibro decided to move into a different specialty after getting fed up with being the forum whipping boy. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Sgt Buttscratch 1480	Posted - 2014.02.08 18:47:00 - [32] - Quote Saxbrin Shain wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Allowing all heavies to run light weapons removes diversity [GÇª] It looks like you don't understand the meaning of "diversity". I encourage you to look it up, because giving Heavies more than two weapon choices only increases diversity. Sentinel suits are designed to amplify the wearer's strength to allow them to carry Heavy weapons. It makes sense that something strong enough to hold a Forge Gun would have no problems wielding a Rail Rifle GÇö whether you like it or not. If you have problems with the Rail Rifle, or any other weapon, propose changes to the weapons themselves. Taking rifles away from Sentinels won't make rifles any less FOTM. Negative- Heavies using more than 2 weapons does increase diversity.... for the heavies. But in terms of ONLY INCREASES DIVERSITY, no. It actually decreases diversity overall forthe whole game. I look at everything thing as how it effects the game as a whole. Allowing every role to be anything, removes roles...removes tictacs I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans

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